Hiruzen is way too underrated

[Trollasaur]

"Orochimaru said Hiruzen would have defeated him if he was 10 years younger"

How about 15 years younger?

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Where Hiruzen needed a whole squad just to subdue the Nine Tails until Minato arrives.

Enma pushed him out easily, and it's Hashis uniqe ablity to supress the Nine Tails, your point?

 

[SeriousDogg]

Enma pushed him out easily, and it's Hashis uniqe ablity to supress the Nine Tails, your point?

Thats true, the only Shinobis that can deal with Kurama are Hashi because of his mokuton, Obito and Madara (insane genjutsu).

It will be hard for anyone else to stop him even for Nagato Tobirama Kabuto and those...

 

[Vegeto30294]

Enma pushed him out easily, and it's Hashis uniqe ablity to supress the Nine Tails, your point?

We've driven him out of the village.

and considering the various hand seals, and everyone throwing traps means he wasn't the only one doing the work. Most work? Most likely. All the work? Not likely.

and I did not mention Hashirama

 

[frbro82]

50%? More like 5%-10%. Hiruzen is underrated but don't go saying Tobirama and Hashirama were half powered in that fight. That was a fraction.

wtf -10% their cant be a negative pecentage . 0% is doing nothing ...

 

[Trollasaur]

We've driven him out of the village.

and considering the various hand seals, and everyone throwing traps means he wasn't the only one doing the work. Most work? Most likely. All the work? Not likely.

and I did not mention Hashirama

Enma was said to have pushed out the kyubi easily IDK what you're talking about, and I'm pretty sure you were infering something about Hashirama.

 

[Souji]

Everyone saying Hiruzen is this strong, yet he literally has 2 feats. When the wankers saw him as an Edo, they werel ike, ye watch these OP jutsu. Yet, a shuriken jutsu. Hiruzen has no feats, so stop putting him on par with the likes of Tobirama/Minato/Kakashi/Itachi. He's not due to Feats. He literally has like 2 feats.

The Sage of Six Paths has no on screen feats, and yet we all agree he's the most powerful character in the NV.

See what I did there? Stop applying double standards to a character simply because you don't like them.

 

[Percy Jackson]

50%? Wow. Madara got a fraction of hashi's power and yet again..it's stronger compare to the first time hashi. Was summoned. i'm comaparing there "jukai koutan" btw.

 

[Smd]

kishimoto...you sob.

hiruzen beating them was pure bs

hiruzen handled them so he should be relvent in the war but he isnt

 

[The Work]

Hiruzen is not underated

He just sucks

Face it, if Hiruzen was as OP as Hashi or Minato he would have just as much panel time

He doesn't because he has no techniques on par with Naruto, Sasuke, Hashi, Minato, etc.

 

[ntel]

If Hashirama was at %50 percent,gg Hiruzen.

Hashirama would take a shit on Hiruzen.

They were at %15 max..

 

[S A G E]

Among the four hokages, he's definitely the weakest.
however he could still solo the shinobi alliance currently waiting on the sidelines.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Among the four hokages, he's definitely the weakest.
however he could still solo the shinobi alliance currently waiting on the sidelines.

Yes.. This true..

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

How was tobirama & hashirama at 5% ? The feature of edo give you unlimited chakra,stamina,and undieing body on top of that he's fighting 3 vs 1 yeah ok that weak lmao

I swear people on this forum stupid as **** now a days no features huh people


A Giant Juubi tail beast bomb coming the 8 tails shooting countless tail beast bombs couldn't stop it a whole army uses earth style barriers wasn't even able to slow it down lol

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Hiruzen side of the barrier was still held up now so im guessing that wasn't a feature lmao

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[Multiply]

The Sage of Six Paths has no on screen feats, and yet we all agree he's the most powerful character in the NV.

See what I did there? Stop applying double standards to a character simply because you don't like them.

The Sage created all of the bijuu, solo'd Juubi, and created the moon. Your argument is invalid.

 

[Souji]

The Sage created all of the bijuu, solo'd Juubi, and created the moon. Your argument is invalid.

Again, it's clear you don't understand the principle. Have those feats been shown on screen or through a flashback? No. But we believe it because it's hype. When Hiruzen gets a little hype, or any character for that matter, fans like you expect them to prove it; they can't seem to grasp concepts and titles without seeing it shoved into their faces, saying "LOOK AT MY COOL JUTSU THAT'S WHY I'M THE MOST POWERFUL"

So before you invalidate my argument, reexamine what you're saying. You're holding a double standard to Hiruzen and making a judgement of him simply for God knows what reason.

 

[Darth Vulcanis]

50%? More like 5%-10%. Hiruzen is underrated but don't go saying Tobirama and Hashirama were half powered in that fight. That was a fraction.

^this besides kishi had multiple opportunities to make hiruzen look useful and the only thing he kept doing is throwing those damn shuriken. out of all the jutsu he allegedly knows why does kishi have him using such a weak tech repeatedly?
He's underrated because kishi wrote his character like that

 

[Multiply]

Again, it's clear you don't understand the principle. Have those feats been shown on screen or through a flashback? No. But we believe it because it's hype. When Hiruzen gets a little hype, or any character for that matter, fans like you expect them to prove it; they can't seem to grasp concepts and titles without seeing it shoved into their faces, saying "LOOK AT MY COOL JUTSU THAT'S WHY I'M THE MOST POWERFUL"

So before you invalidate my argument, reexamine what you're saying. You're holding a double standard to Hiruzen and making a judgement of him simply for God knows what reason.

You're contradicting yourself, over and over. You claim none of the Sage's feats were on screen. Though, neither were any of Hiruzen's. At least the sage has them off-screen, while Hiruzen has none. Hype doesn't mean anything until it's backed up. Genma can say he can use Sage Mode all he wants, Raidou can back him up. That doesn't mean he does, until he shows it. Feats > Hype, sorry.

 

[Trollasaur]

You're contradicting yourself, over and over. You claim none of the Sage's feats were on screen. Though, neither were any of Hiruzen's. At least the sage has them off-screen, while Hiruzen has none. Hype doesn't mean anything until it's backed up. Genma can say he can use Sage Mode all he wants, Raidou can back him up. That doesn't mean he does, until he shows it. Feats > Hype, sorry.

Full of fail.

 

[startup97]

You're contradicting yourself, over and over. You claim none of the Sage's feats were on screen. Though, neither were any of Hiruzen's. At least the sage has them off-screen, while Hiruzen has none. Hype doesn't mean anything until it's backed up. Genma can say he can use Sage Mode all he wants, Raidou can back him up. That doesn't mean he does, until he shows it. Feats > Hype, sorry.

What the hell are you talking about. Off Screen. WHAT? Your just spewing out nonsense!

 

[Souji]

You're contradicting yourself, over and over. You claim none of the Sage's feats were on screen. Though, neither were any of Hiruzen's. At least the sage has them off-screen, while Hiruzen has none. Hype doesn't mean anything until it's backed up. Genma can say he can use Sage Mode all he wants, Raidou can back him up. That doesn't mean he does, until he shows it. Feats > Hype, sorry.

Really, bro? Hiruzen has NO off-screen feats, yet the Sage does? What kind of twisted logic is that? You said the Sage soloed Juubi. I believe that, even if there is NO evidence or on screen feat that indicated he did so. Hiruzen was considered the strongest Kage in his prime, and now that's not considered credible because we haven't seen it, just said? Pathetic. More double standards.

Hashirama was said to heal without hand signs. We haven't seen that yet, so can we dismiss that as mere hype? I don't think so, because I believe it was a part of his power.

Again, please think about what you're saying. I'm not contradicting myself, merely making a point that most NBers are guilty of.