Hiruzen is the strongest Kage to exist thus far

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Here's the difference, Hashirama has actual feats to back up his hype. All Hiruzen has is outdated hype and his strongest move is a suicide tech that he didn't even know on his prime.
Hiruzen has more feats
Cause he already beat Hashirama and his brother
So Hashirama by himself is no competition
 

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I'm pretty sure in the recent manga this has been proven not to be true, but let me start by saying that no I do have any proof of how powerful the proclaimed "god of shinobi" was in his prime but Madara has stated several times that Hashi is the only one who could defeat him and I also recall him saying if they battled the maps would need to be redrawn. I've never heard of anyone having that type of power in the manga or anime besides Hashi and Madara. So my personal thoughts on this whole debate is the new gen of the leaf looks at the 3rd hokage how a lot of new gen basketball fans look at lebron (they think he is great) and they title them as the greatest to live when actually if you ever saw the 3rd hokage play on the same court as the truely great 1st hokage Hashi (Jordan!). Hashi would put him to shame
Lol Gaara has that type of power to change the area and this was part 1 Gaara
 

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Hiruzen has more evidence aboutt whos stronger
He beat Hashirama and his brother
God of shinobi
The professor
Strongest Hokage
And strongest Kage of his era

Hashirama
Fairy tail
Strongest of his era
Defeated Madara and Kyuubi

no one shouldnt even complaining about this cause its obvious Hiruzen is the stronger of the 2
-(you mean he died fighting 2 weakened Edos)
God of shinobi(hype)
The professor(hype)
Strongest Hokage(hype)
And strongest Kage of his era(hype)

Hashirama
Fairy tail(yes, he was so strong that people thought his strength was just a myth and couldn't believe it)
Strongest of his era(hype)
Defeated Madara and Kyuubi(actual feat and a damn impressive one)
 

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Hiruzen has more evidence aboutt whos stronger
He beat Hashirama and his brother
God of shinobi
The professor
Strongest Hokage
And strongest Kage of his era

Hashirama
Fairy tail
Strongest of his era
Defeated Madara and Kyuubi

no one shouldnt even complaining about this cause its obvious Hiruzen is the stronger of the 2
ok proper Evidence of Hashirama :


Powers fairy tail like the Sage of 6 path...
Strongest Shinobi (madara wasn't on his level)
Defeated the EMS Madara + the strongest tailed beast.
Possesses the same power equal to edo madara.
Has been called the "Best ninja" by Kabuto (Episode 256)
And has been stated by madara (who was alive during sarutobi's time) that only Hashirama can stop him..


Proper evidence of Sarutobi:

1. was known as the God of shinobi.
2. Mastered alot of stuff which made him known as the Professor
3. Stated to be the strongest Hokage leaf had by Iruka
4.Strongest Kage of his time. (not when he cameback from retirement)


Thats only 4..

You mentioned the Edo battle.. Yet i do recall Sarutobi getting his ass kicked and then loosing his life.. o_O the Edo served their purpose their for Oro won.
The person who left the battle alive was Orochimaru. So he won. Using a suicide move on someone is not defeating them. Hiruzen had no choice.. ;l.

Also, the battle was just to show that he could do stuff even in his old Age..But it did not represent Hashirama and Tobirama's true fighting power.
 

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Stop posting outdated information you noob. Part 1 Neji > Naruto at some point. So THAT MEANS NEJI > NARUTO NOW? IS THAT YOUR LOGIC? HASHIRAMA WOULD EAT THAT OLD FART AND SHIT HIM OUT. Wow, idiots on here, seriously :sy:
i agree with logic's logic xd
 

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Kishi needs to show some of these people fight while they were in their primes
People like the first four hokages need to be shown using their full power and all of their tricks to confirm how strong the person really is
 

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Hashirama and Hiruzen both have hype clinging to them. Even Raikage once thought that Minato could not be surpassed.

I can't really take a pick since they both have considerable hype to their name.
 

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I swear, you people get caught up in titles too much, it's never stated once that Hiruzen was the strongest, nothing is hax about Hiruzen unlike some other Kages (Minato, Muu, Hashirama, etc.).

You all try to take what people say in the manga and form your own warped absurd opinions about shit, it's baffling, so until it is actually proven, shut the fuk up and keep it as it is........just another fuking OPINION.
 

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ok proper Evidence of Hashirama :


Powers fairy tail like the Sage of 6 path...
Strongest Shinobi (madara wasn't on his level)
Defeated the EMS Madara + the strongest tailed beast.
Possesses the same power equal to edo madara.
Has been called the "Best ninja" by Kabuto (Episode 256)
And has been stated by madara (who was alive during sarutobi's time) that only Hashirama can stop him..


Proper evidence of Sarutobi:

1. was known as the God of shinobi.
2. Mastered alot of stuff which made him known as the Professor
3. Stated to be the strongest Hokage leaf had by Iruka
4.Strongest Kage of his time. (not when he cameback from retirement)


Thats only 4..

You mentioned the Edo battle.. Yet i do recall Sarutobi getting his ass kicked and then loosing his life.. o_O the Edo served their purpose their for Oro won.
The person who left the battle alive was Orochimaru. So he won. Using a suicide move on someone is not defeating them. Hiruzen had no choice.. ;l.

Also, the battle was just to show that he could do stuff even in his old Age..But it did not represent Hashirama and Tobirama's true fighting power.

Nope he beat them
Technically twice with the paper bombs also

And Iruka said people reconize Hiruzen as the strongest Hokage and God of shinobi

If you read about Hiruzen you actually see the databook said he was still strongest at his time of death also
 

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Kishi must have changed his mine somehow. For 8 years ago, Hiruzen was consider to be the strongest kagge, but now; Hashirama. I believe the reason is because Madara is the leader of Uchiha and the strongest one (After the Elder son), and he wanted strongest to strongest to fight. I understand him because that make sense as well.

Sorry, but I don't really see Hiruzen as a 'god' or whatever he was called for 8 years ago. Kishi changed his mine, deal with it.

Trolls.... or Kishi? Kishi is really the one who deny this fact. But as I said, I believe he have changed his mind about the strongest Kage.

Stop posting outdated information you noob. Part 1 Neji > Naruto at some point. So THAT MEANS NEJI > NARUTO NOW? IS THAT YOUR LOGIC? HASHIRAMA WOULD EAT THAT OLD FART AND SHIT HIM OUT. Wow, idiots on here, seriously :sy:​
Why don't you shut up and relax? Ignore those threads if they hurt you that much, ignorant
 

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.......and he was defeated by Oro..somehow ~_~ if he was/is strongest kage ever, Oro shouldn't be able to beat him even he was old :rolleyes:
 
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