Hiruzen is stronger than minato

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By feats, Minato sits comfortably in second.

Hiruzen's hype got ditched a long time ago, sorry.
 

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Just because one is stronger doesn't mean that everyone has to get effected.

Tobirama for example confirmed and stated by himself that Minato surpassed his teleport jutsu. Tsunade is older than Minato still thread states that Minato is > Tsunade.

Obito gave Minato hell of a ride because of his Kamui that he learned without any help since it's his own special ability from MS.

Still Obito was 13 - 14 years old? And now Obito is probably defiantly stronger than Minato.

Madara probably helped him in that aspect and its seems like when you unlock your MS ability you can use it immediately and to its fullest effect if Obito is anything to go by.
 

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last night i dreamt that hiruzen used FTG in his fight against juubi XD

OT:with what we know about minato and hiruzen,minato destroys hiruzen.

however hiruzen might have some hidden powers that are yet to be revealed:erm:
 

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Just because one is stronger doesn't mean that everyone has to get effected.

My question related to Hashirama, and Hashirama alone ;) I couldn't care less about any irrelevant info. A simple "no one", would have suffied :scorps:
 

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Madara probably helped him in that aspect and its seems like when you unlock your MS ability you can use it immediately and to its fullest effect if Obito is anything to go by.

I don't really think that he could have helped Obito to learn and understand Kamui since Obito is the only person that showed being enabled to use it (his eyes otherwise Kakashi as well then, and who taught Kakashi how to use Kamui and activate MS )
 

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No sorry, Tobirama already said Minato has surpassed him, and Hiruzen isn't close to Minato by what has been shown. Minato is the 2nd best Hokage, Hashirama being the first obviously.
 

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He's not the god of shinobi 4 nuthin...
1.Hashi
2.Tobirama/God of shinobi/Minato
5.tsunde
 

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I have, and I don't see how Hiruzen can be considered stronger than Minato.

I also don't see how you can judge Tobirama's strength right now. He is close to featless.

Tobirama is strong.. believe me, he killed izuna uchiha, and at the time izuna was as powerful as madara
 

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Hashirama > Tsunade > = < Tobirama >/= Minato > Hiruzen
 

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There is a reason why Minato is the one giving orders to Hiruzen and Tobirama so far, just saying...
 

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There is a reason why Minato is the one giving orders to Hiruzen and Tobirama so far, just saying...

He has a cape. <(-.-<) People with cape jacket things are awesome. Therefore it is only logical that he give the orders. :scorps:
 

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Minato > Tsunade? nooooo
You can't be serious....
Tobirama is strong.. believe me, he killed izuna uchiha, and at the time izuna was as powerful as madara
When it all comes to nothing, we have no idea how the fight went down. We don't know if Tobirama was alone, or whether he had 30 men alongside him before he hit Izuna with the final hit. I'm not trying to downplay him, but the fact is, that he's featless.
 

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When it all comes to nothing, we have no idea how the fight went down. We don't know if Tobirama was alone, or whether he had 30 men alongside him before he hit Izuna with the final hit. I'm not trying to downplay him, but the fact is, that he's featless.

How do we know that Izuna didn't have 100 men :scorps: Tobirama soloed 100+ Uchihas in one fight, possibly. <(-.-<) He is just that bawss.
 
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