Hiruzen is really godlike...

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Data means nothing if he doesn't apply it.

I mean have we ever seen him actually win a fight in the series? No.Not that I recall.
 

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• Somehow stopped both Orochimaru's 3rd Coffin and Shinju's Chakra Absorption


No he did not. Orochimaru was unable to summon the 3rd coffin because of the reaper death seal.

smart Zeppelin fanboy is smart :win:

OT haters gone hate there's no point in arguing with them they don't use much logic
 

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Hiruzen is seriously underrated here! Watch him pull out an OP jutsu in the next chapter and than wait for the bandwagon to arrive!
 

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• Somehow stopped both Orochimaru's 3rd Coffin and Shinju's Chakra Absorption


No he did not. Orochimaru was unable to summon the 3rd coffin because of the reaper death seal.

Yet Hiruzen did a handseal with the specific purpose to stopping the 3rd coffin, and believed that his jutsu worked.

Kishimoto also presented a retcon. Orochimaru has to resurrect people before he puts them into coffins, if Minato was placed in a coffin that means Orochimaru already resurrected him.

Data means nothing if he doesn't apply it.

I mean have we ever seen him actually win a fight in the series? No.Not that I recall.

Information presented is pivotal unless disproven, or an otherwise illogical fallacy.

That is poor logic. Not only does that leave too much of a gray area for many characters, but Old Hiruzen did win his fight against Orochimaru.
 
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Yet Hiruzen did a handseal with the specific purpose to stopping the 3rd coffin, and believed that his jutsu worked.

Kishimoto also presented a retcon. Orochimaru has to resurrect people before he puts them into coffins, if Minato was placed in a coffin that means Orochimaru already resurrected him.
exactly. seems that people hear believe the coffin is is the ritual when its just a way to summon the already resurrected person.
this is the ritual:
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