Hiruzen is a planet buster

[SharinganisOP]

You're underestimating hiruzen's strength, man. The guy is like the hulk, didn't you see the 6 packs?

Not underestimating his strength at all. You are kidding yourself if you think he can carry an object that gains mass as it extends, especially since the further away the weight of something is the harder it will be to hold. Definitely not like the hulk, even Hiruzen's knowledge can't transcend Universes.

Also I would like to say this. Itachi is also above Hiruzen in planet busting status by your logic. Totsuka can seal anything. Enma is something, if enma's mass tends towards infinity then so does his energy. Totsuka therefore can seal infinite amounts of energy that can planet bust and stop hiruzen from planet busting. Since he can seal something capable of planet busting with totsuka, totsuka therefore has the ability to seal the planet. All while stopping hiruzen from planet busting. Itachi> All forms of Hirzuen. GG.

 

[Wolfus]

Not underestimating his strength at all. You are kidding yourself if you think he can carry an object that gains mass as it extends, especially since the further away the weight of something is the harder it will be to hold. Definitely not like the hulk, even Hiruzen's knowledge can't transcend Universes.

Also I would like to say this. Itachi is also above Hiruzen in planet busting status by your logic. Totsuka can seal anything. Enma is something, if enma's mass tends towards infinity then so does his energy. Totsuka therefore can seal infinite amounts of energy that can planet bust and stop hiruzen from planet busting. Since he can seal something capable of planet busting with totsuka, totsuka therefore has the ability to seal the planet. All while stopping hiruzen from planet busting. Itachi> All forms of Hirzuen. GG.

Nah, he's like the hulk. It's manga fact.

But who said totsuka can pierce enma, huh? Ha, got you know.

It's impossible for itachi to be> hiruzen

Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV) And itachi is a shinobi from konoha. The only thing hiruzen doesn't have is totsuka+ yata, but he has PS. Totsuka ain't be piercing PS.

 

[Avinash012]

Hiruzen is beyond planet buster.

Hiruzen has mastered every jutsu from konoha. Therefore, he knows shinsuusenju, PS, bijuu dama(naruto) and many other techniques.(manga fact) So:

Hiruzen= Hashirama + madara+ naruto + obito(jin and not jin, he is still from konoha) + sasuke + itachi + ...
Hiruzen= All shinobis from konoha together (I)

Ok, so we got equation I that proves that hiruzen is actually the strongest hokage. Now, let's see this: Hiruzen is also a shinobi from konoha, with his own techniques. So, we have to include him in the equation:

Hiruzen= Hiruzen + all other shinobis from konoha (II)

However, let's see this. If Hiruzen= hiruzen + shinobis, then we can replace hiruzen by his value. So, we get:

Hiruzen= Hiruzen + all other shinobis from konoha + all shinobis from konoha
Hiruzen= Hiruzen + 2(all other shinobis from konoha)(III)

As one can see, we can keep replacing hiruzen. Therefore, we'll get

Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV)

With equation (IV), we conclude that hiruzen's power is infinite

This^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[SharinganisOP]

Nah, he's like the hulk. It's manga fact.

But who said totsuka can pierce enma, huh? Ha, got you know.

It's impossible for itachi to be> hiruzen

Hiruzen= Hiruzen + n(all other shinobis from konoha)/ n Є Z+, n →+∞ (IV) And itachi is a shinobi from konoha. The only thing hiruzen doesn't have is totsuka+ yata, but he has PS. Totsuka ain't be piercing PS.

Who says totsuka can't pierce enma or PS? It has cut everything it has tried to cut/pierce so far, therefore in theory it could pierce anything. Also It can definitely pierce hiruzen, since he is just a lowly human and therefore by your calculations carries infinity because Hiruzen= infinity/tends to infinity. Anyways Totsuka can seal anything it pierces, pierces the ground of the planet then the planet is sealed.

Also Itachi is clearly > Hiruzen. No matter how you try and put it, Invincible is > infinity. And Itachi is invincible.

 

[Mitarashi]

Who says totsuka can't pierce enma or PS? It has cut everything it has tried to cut/pierce so far, therefore in theory it could pierce anything. Also It can definitely pierce hiruzen, since he is just a lowly human and therefore by your calculations carries infinity because Hiruzen= infinity/tends to infinity. Anyways Totsuka can seal anything it pierces, pierces the ground of the planet then the planet is sealed.

Also Itachi is clearly > Hiruzen. No matter how you try and put it, Invincible is > infinity. And Itachi is invincible.

Hiruzen is far from a planet buster and Itachi is far from invincible
End

 

[Wolfus]

Who says totsuka can't pierce enma or PS? It has cut everything it has tried to cut/pierce so far, therefore in theory it could pierce anything. Also It can definitely pierce hiruzen, since he is just a lowly human and therefore by your calculations carries infinity because Hiruzen= infinity/tends to infinity. Anyways Totsuka can seal anything it pierces, pierces the ground of the planet then the planet is sealed.

Also Itachi is clearly > Hiruzen. No matter how you try and put it, Invincible is > infinity. And Itachi is invincible.

Enma is badass, which is why it can't be pierced. Have you ever seen someone as badass as enma be pierced? I haven't.
It can pierce hiruzen, but PS is also badass. Not only badass, but also, very tanky. It tanks bijuu dama and all those things. So it's 2 times tank. Agreed witht he planet sealed, but hiruzen isn't a part of the plant. He will jump, and PS+futon+enma will give him oxygen.

What? Infinity>invencible. Always man. Because you can be invencible, but your power will still have limits. But when your power is infinite, you'll surpass limits, therefore surpassing invencibility.
Hiruzen>itachi

 

[3MESSIAH]

i strongly disagree.he is galaxy buster at least

 

[SharinganisOP]

Enma is badass, which is why it can't be pierced. Have you ever seen someone as badass as enma be pierced? I haven't.
It can pierce hiruzen, but PS is also badass. Not only badass, but also, very tanky. It tanks bijuu dama and all those things. So it's 2 times tank. Agreed witht he planet sealed, but hiruzen isn't a part of the plant. He will jump, and PS+futon+enma will give him oxygen.

What? Infinity>invencible. Always man. Because you can be invencible, but your power will still have limits. But when your power is infinite, you'll surpass limits, therefore surpassing invencibility.
Hiruzen>itachi

Yup, I've seen Badasses like vegeta and Goku and Gohan die, Badasses can die and can get hurt. Enma gets pierced and sealed for sure, same thing with hiruzen. When hiruzen jumps and does his wind technique he seals him with totsuka blade.

What? Invincible>Infinity. Always man. Someone with infinite power could go up against something that is invincible and be stopped in its tracks. If something is invincible it cannot lose/destroyed if it so chooses. Itachi is invincible and therefore cannot lose. Even if his power has limits, he is invincible and will beat hiruzen in any form before his power runs out because he cannot lose since he is invincible.

 

[Wolfus]

Yup, I've seen Badasses like vegeta and Goku and Gohan die, Badasses can die and can get hurt. Enma gets pierced and sealed for sure, same thing with hiruzen. When hiruzen jumps and does his wind technique he seals him with totsuka blade.

What? Invincible>Infinity. Always man. Someone with infinite power could go up against something that is invincible and be stopped in its tracks. If something is invincible it cannot lose/destroyed if it so chooses. Itachi is invincible and therefore cannot lose. Even if his power has limits, he is invincible and will beat hiruzen in any form before his power runs out because he cannot lose since he is invincible.

But that's on dbz verse. This is NV, badassness means can't be pierced by totsuka. Manga fact, man. Manga fact.
Besides, PS can't be pierced.

Man, infinite> invencible. Because invencible doesn't mean unstopable. And infinity doesn't have limitis, invencible does. Which one loses? Well, only one has limits to give it all.
Hiruzen>itachi

 

[startup97]

Hiruzen solos.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

This ain't science class.