Hiruzen in his Prime The God Of Shinobis Vs Itachi Uchiha

[StrifeMaccy]

Who says you need to hurt the 3rd raikage to beat him?
Trap hin with a jitsu and drown him in a water technique, one simple way you can do it...
Or get him to punch himself like naruto did...
probably other creative ways to

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Who says you need to hurt the 3rd raikage to beat him?
Trap hin with a jitsu and drown him in a water technique, one simple way you can do it...
Or get him to punch himself like naruto did...
probably other creative ways to

That is the thing though, how many people are going to know the weakness to his raiton armor?

Only the 8-tails. And Naruto was able to talk to the 8-tails. Hiruzen would have no such chance.

 

[Solaris Vexius]

Clearly the third hokage is the winner. He has had far more experience with tougher shinobi. Jiriya was stronger than itachi. 3rd hokage>>>ero senin

 

[Aethyx]

Wow this is tough one my mind says Itachi but my heart says The third.,hope there is a time machine in narutoverse.,

 

[Amantius]

Dude Kabuto never said that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage at the time of his death. Because that is as untrue as untrue can get.

If need be I can list the kages who were alive when Hiruzen died.

Hiruzen loses to literally every single one. At the absolute most he might be able to pull a draw with Mei by death reaper seal, but he loses soundly to Onoki, A, Gaara, and Nagato.

Nagato was a kage by the way, as was Orochimaru. Oro was kage of the Sound, and Nagato was Kage of the Rain.

Kabuto was only talking about Hiruzen in his prime. In fact he said "in his era".

And even that is debatable, highly debatable as I don't see how Hiruzen would hurt the third raikage at all, or a younger Onoki who would have more chakra and less back problems than he does now.[/QUOTE


This is a argument between you and the writer, if he states that his character is the strongest kage in his prime, then that's the way it is. The reason why you can say all these about the other kage is simple, they gotten stronger since the 3th died and kishi showed their abilities.

The thing is if you go back those years in Sarutobi prime, that means the other kage who are stronger now, their abilities would reset to what it was back then, which is why sarutobi would be the strongest. right now every single kage is stronger than him.

Like i said tho a writer would never establish his own character power if he did not want people to believe and understand the character power and role in the story.

 

[Owarij]

That is the thing though, how many people are going to know the weakness to his raiton armor?

Only the 8-tails. And Naruto was able to talk to the 8-tails. Hiruzen would have no such chance.

genjutsu is raikages weakness, and hiruzen was a master of over 1000 of them according to manga, and has a 5 in genjutsu db

and ps, kabuto did say OLD hiruzen was the strongest kage

 

[Lord Snow]

I'll put money on itachi but we never saw the guy they call god of shinobi in his prime.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

genjutsu is raikages weakness, and hiruzen was a master of over 1000 of them according to manga, and has a 5 in genjutsu db

and ps, kabuto did say OLD hiruzen was the strongest kage

You find me that manga page because I specifically remember kabuto saying "It is to be expected, after all he was said to be the strongest kage of his era"

Hiruzen's era is the era of the third hokages. Not the fourth, or fifth or anything after that. And he made no mention as to the old Hiruzen, because if you want to get into that Hiruzen in his old age would have lost to every single kage, other than maybe the 4th kazekage, whom we saw very very little from.

 

[Darth Atlas]

Well if you put it that way then you have to keep bother them in their primes which, I think, this tough to descide both are extremely talented and could take on nearly any opponent so I do not know.

 

[Darth Atlas]

Well if you put it that way then you have to keep bother them in their primes which, I think, this tough to descide both are extremely talented and could take on nearly any opponent so I do not know.

Sorry I ment both typing is hard

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Well if you put it that way then you have to keep bother them in their primes which, I think, this tough to descide both are extremely talented and could take on nearly any opponent so I do not know.

Which is kind of BS if people give Hiruzen his prime. Because Itachi died as a 22 year old of disease.

Hiruzen got to be 68 and had all that time to learn jutsus and train.

Itachi left the village at 13, and didn't have a sensei or anyone to look out for him.

So you can't really say "Prime Itachi" because it doesn't exist, just like we say "Prime Minato" doesn't exist, and Minato was a few years older than Itachi at their respective times of death.

 

[Owarij]

You find me that manga page because I specifically remember kabuto saying "It is to be expected, after all he was said to be the strongest kage of his era"

Hiruzen's era is the era of the third hokages. Not the fourth, or fifth or anything after that. And he made no mention as to the old Hiruzen, because if you want to get into that Hiruzen in his old age would have lost to every single kage, other than maybe the 4th kazekage, whom we saw very very little from.

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Reputation as the strongest leader, meaning he was known as the strongest by others

 

[Mygenjutsu]

didyou guys forogt
oro killed hiruzen
guess what?
itachi pwnd oro being sick dying while fighting sasuke in 3 seconds pwnd!
all konoha kages are surpassed by itachi:|
god of shinobi is killed by a pedo snake.

Hiruzen has no answers for totsuka and yata mirror even nagato didn have it.
what makes you guys think lol?????
every kage is suprassed my many characters lol.

hiruzen is taken by hype in the manga no facts and feats shows he win against itachi lol.
but dont bother wait till itachi dies again lol
we will see some big hype lol.

 

[InfiniteTsukuyomi]

I would say hiruzen, but itachi has mangekyo so i can't say. that's a tough one.

 

[Darth Atlas]

Which is kind of BS if people give Hiruzen his prime. Because Itachi died as a 22 year old of disease.

Hiruzen got to be 68 and had all that time to learn jutsus and train.

Itachi left the village at 13, and didn't have a sensei or anyone to look out for him.

So you can't really say "Prime Itachi" because it doesn't exist, just like we say "Prime Minato" doesn't exist, and Minato was a few years older than Itachi at their respective times of death.

Which is very true. And I don't want to say "what if he wasn't sick" because that is part of the manga and there is nothing more to say.:shrug:

 

[siyo]

Dude Kabuto never said that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage at the time of his death. Because that is as untrue as untrue can get.

If need be I can list the kages who were alive when Hiruzen died.

Hiruzen loses to literally every single one. At the absolute most he might be able to pull a draw with Mei by death reaper seal, but he loses soundly to Onoki, A, Gaara, and Nagato.

Nagato was a kage by the way, as was Orochimaru. Oro was kage of the Sound, and Nagato was Kage of the Rain.

Kabuto was only talking about Hiruzen in his prime. In fact he said "in his era".

And even that is debatable, highly debatable as I don't see how Hiruzen would hurt the third raikage at all, or a younger Onoki who would have more chakra and less back problems than he does now.

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Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime. According to Iruka, he was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had as well as the strongest of all the five Kage during his era.[6] Even in his old age, Kabuto Yakushi considered him the strongest of the Five Kage at the time of his death.

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Dot and Owarij got to you post quicker but the fact remains.Those things were clearly stated by Kishi and your problem is with the author.However, I did forget to clarify that Kabuto was talking about the five major Kages, my bad.

 

[Amantius]

if kabuto revive sarutobi, its a rap for the war cuz Madara+sarutobi would be a beast tag team. (too bad sarutobi was sealed so cant)

 

[siyo]

if kabuto revive sarutobi, its a rap for the war cuz Madara+sarutobi would be a beast tag team. (too bad sarutobi was sealed so cant)

Talk about overpowered xd. The only thing more epic would be if the first four hokages were working together as a team...

Unfortunately, I don't think we will hear more about hiruzen in the future, unless of course konohamaru receives the spotlight.

 

[Atohasa Uzamaki]

Im gonna say it would most likely be a draw...

 

[SAGA]

Wth wtf!?