Hiruzen has most and best abilities of all Kages.

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Water, Fire, Earth, Wind, Lightning, Yin, Yang, Shuriken, Sealing, Summoning, Sensing, Weapons, Neutralizing.

I can't name one Kage with more abilities than Hiruzen.

Can you?
 

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Most abilities,most hyped.Too bad he died twice and didnt even live up to it once.
Its not his show, sort of how the Sannin didn't live up to their hype and many others. Also wouldn't the fact he has the most abilities of all kages credit his hype at least a little?
 

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Hiruzen can be the god of shinobi all he wants, yata causes that fact to lose its meaning.

But really, he's not that good, Sakura has better feats...
 

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Look up retcon...


OT: You're right, Hiruzen was INTENDED to be the most powerful, but Part II kinda went a different path.
 

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He has no yin yang abilities, and the neutrilizer is made up.

The only thing I will really give him is his Enma staff, it's dense enough to withstand mokuton of great levels and sever a good piece of the god tree branch.
 

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Look up retcon...


OT: You're right, Hiruzen was INTENDED to be the most powerful, but Part II kinda went a different path.
Naruto with ganabunta possibly wins -.-
Part 1 was really unbalanced.

^^^ and that old minato design is awful! I'm glad he got better at design and drawing.
 

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He has no yin yang abilities, and the neutrilizer is made up.

The only thing I will really give him is his Enma staff, it's dense enough to withstand mokuton of great levels and sever a good piece of the god tree branch.
Yin and Yang are techniques like Shadow Clones, Transformation, Shadow Possession, etc so what are you talking about?
 

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Naruto with ganabunta possibly wins -.-
Part 1 was really unbalanced.

^^^ and that old minato design is awful! I'm glad he got better at design and drawing.
One Jutsu does not ensure your win.... And you shined Hiruzen's shoes with the fact you had to involve Chief Bunta.

Part I wasn't imbalanced, it was more intelligent...It didn't follow the messed up rule of A > B > C logic, ANY and EVERYONE could be beaten, even if by a Shinobi who would lose to the Shinobi that won against the Shinobi they lost against.. <------ Think about that statement xD Lmaoo
 
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Yin and Yang are techniques like Shadow Clones, Transformation, Shadow Possession, etc so what are you talking about?
Yin yang abilities such as the release.

Shadow clone and transformation Justu are not yin yang abilities/release.

Shadow possession falls into the broad category of Yin element, and even Hiruzen doesn't have that it's a kekkai genkai.

He doesn't have all the leaf's kekkai genkai, just it's basic Justus which consist up to a thousand.

Example: Someone from the mist doesn't use shadow clone Justu, it's a leaf technique...

They use water clone justu.

Saying Shadow clone is a yin yang technique is like saying Iruka has yin yang techniques at his disposal.
 
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