Hiruzen Elemental Power

[Tantalus Thief]

In a chapter Hiruzen was able to counter 5 elements blast from the Buddha.

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This attack was enchanced by senjutsu but Hiruzen still counters it easily.

Remember Hiruzen is in his weakest form right now. He is old, the leaf ANBU commented that his chakra is weaker than it was when he was younger and he is not full power at edo form. Yet he could help make a barrier to contain the Juubi.

So if he could counter those blasts in his weakest state imagine what he could do in his prime power. I'm thinking some possible Kirin level lightning.

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Pictures drawing from Kishi desk depicting Hiruzen at his prime power

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What do you guys think? Does Hiruzen now get your respect and is not fodder to you. I've seen people here say Part 1 Sasuke and Gaara beat him
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[JDtheAlchemist]

Where did you get the idea that Spiral Zetsu's attack was enhanced by senjutsu? Cuz ummm... It wasn't. Hiruzen isn't fodder, but for the love of the base, stop it with these freakin wank threads! Hiruzen ISN'T EVEN TOP 25!!! Yeah, I said it, flame me.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

#TheHypeIsReal

 

[Mellow]

Where did you get the idea that Spiral Zetsu's attack was enhanced by senjutsu? Cuz ummm... It wasn't. Hiruzen isn't fodder, but for the love of the base, stop it with these freakin wank threads! Hiruzen ISN'T EVEN TOP 25!!! Yeah, I said it, flame me.

What anime is you sig. From?

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Where did you get the idea that Spiral Zetsu's attack was enhanced by senjutsu? Cuz ummm... It wasn't. Hiruzen isn't fodder, but for the love of the base, stop it with these freakin wank threads! Hiruzen ISN'T EVEN TOP 25!!! Yeah, I said it, flame me.

It is from the Buddha thing. When Hashirama summoned it he was in Sage Mode.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

What anime is you sig. From?

Samurai champloo. The character is Mugen

 

[DoubleKamui]

Don't forget Edo Tensei brings back people with less strength/power than the original form.

 

[ComplexCity]

And that means SZ can access SM? Right....

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Don't forget Edo Tensei brings back people with less strength/power than the original form.

I put that in there

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

What anime is you sig. From?

It's from Samurai Champloo.

It is from the Buddha thing. When Hashirama summoned it he was in Sage Mode.

Okay, that's great and all but that doesn't mean that SZ had to be in Sage Mode to use it. For example, Jiraiya used the Toad Oil Bomb technique while in Sage Mode... Does he have to be in Sage Mode to do it? Nope. He's also done it in base. Hashirama went into Sage Mode at that time because he realized that he would not be able to defeat Madara without it.

 

[Cresee]

Kirin level lighting? Are you serious?
And Sasuke's reaction was this when he saw Prime Fodderuzen -

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[Tantalus Thief]

It's from Samurai Champloo.




Okay, that's great and all but that doesn't mean that SZ had to be in Sage Mode to use it. For example, Jiraiya used the Toad Oil Bomb technique while in Sage Mode... Does he have to be in Sage Mode to do it? Nope. He's also done it in base. Hashirama went into Sage Mode at that time because he realized that he would not be able to defeat Madara without it.

OK. Still countered a large nature blast. Dat Hiruzen
#Hiruzen 5 Leggo

Kirin level lighting? Are you serious?
And Sasuke's reaction was this when he saw Prime Fodderuzen -

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Fodderuzen you say

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Lord Sasuke disagrees

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Hiruzen is above NV

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For real. Sasuke respects Hiruzen and would not laugh at him. Remember he protected him, the soloking begged him to protect Sasuke.

 

[Its sasukebase]

Don't forget Edo Tensei brings back people with less strength/power than the original form.

brought back at almost full strength. and from we seen all other edo hokage> edo hiruzen so this whole thread is pointlees hiruzen even admitted he was inferior to oro. karin beat mini buddah neg diff when hiruzen could only cancel its attack.

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

OK. Still countered a large nature blast. Dat Hiruzen
#Hiruzen 5 Leggo

COUNTERED. He did not overpower it, he did not defeat it. In fact, he got overshadowed by Karin lolol. Listen man, I like Hiruzen and all, but the claims people make about him are ridiculous. Kirin level lightening? You serious bro? I'm pretty sure that Kirin is the most powerful lightening technique in the entire series. Hiruzen's lightening techs would get raped by it. As I said, he couldn't even overpower the lightening from a nerfed Shinsuusenju. No way his elemental strength is even close to as good as you think. Hiruzen is a well rounded ninja. Meaning that he is not particularly strong in one area, but covers many different areas. His fire techs (and by comparison, his other elements) are probably about on par with a teenage Uchiha's Fireball Jutsu.

 

[Cresee]

OK. Still countered a large nature blast. Dat Hiruzen
#Hiruzen 5 Leggo

Fodderuzen you say

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Lord Sasuke disagrees

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Hiruzen is above NV

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1.That's a fan-made photo.
2.Lord Sasuke crying because of Prime Hiruzen? Lel Tonton solos Prime Fanficruzen neg - diff.
3.Another Fan Made pic.

 

[Zen Uchiha]

Another Hiruzen thread lmao XD

 

[Tantalus Thief]

COUNTERED. He did not overpower it, he did not defeat it. In fact, he got overshadowed by Karin lolol. Listen man, I like Hiruzen and all, but the claims people make about him are ridiculous. Kirin level lightening? You serious bro? I'm pretty sure that Kirin is the most powerful lightening technique in the entire series. Hiruzen's lightening techs would get raped by it. As I said, he couldn't even overpower the lightening from a nerfed Shinsuusenju. No way his elemental strength is even close to as good as you think. Hiruzen is a well rounded ninja. Meaning that he is not particularly strong in one area, but covers many different areas. His fire techs (and by comparison, his other elements) are probably about on par with a teenage Uchiha's Fireball Jutsu.

His fire techniques are not on par with teenage Uchiha techniques. The 5 kage were having trouble against Spiral Zetsu, yet Hiruzen counters a blast that would have smoked the alliance easily. Karin didn't do anything but break some arms, Zetsu still fodderized her later. Ok not Kirin level lightning but some serious power lighting. So what he could not overpower the Shinsuusenju did you not read the part where I said he was not at full power and he is in his old form. Shinsuusenju is very powerful. Seriously some at the age and experience of Hiruzen at teenage Uchiha level katon -_-. So yeah they can counter an attack from Shinsuusenju.

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1.That's a fan-made photo.
2.Lord Sasuke crying because of Prime Hiruzen? Lel Tonton solos Prime Fanficruzen neg - diff.
3.Another Fan Made pic.

Read the bold part.

 

[JDtheAlchemist]

His fire techniques are not on par with teenage Uchiha techniques. The 5 kage were having trouble against Spiral Zetsu, yet Hiruzen counters a blast that would have smoked the alliance easily. Karin didn't do anything but break some arms, Zetsu still fodderized her later. Ok not Kirin level lightning but some serious power lighting. So what he could not overpower the Shinsuusenju did you not read the part where I said he was not at full power and he is in his old form. Shinsuusenju is very powerful. Seriously some at the age and experience of Hiruzen at teenage Uchiha level katon -_-. So yeah they can counter an attack from Shinsuusenju.

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Read the bold part.

Yes... Teenage Uchiha level Katon. And I will stand by that statement. I'm not belittling him. Did you see how huge Sasuke's Katon was when he was like... 8? Besides, my claim is much more believable than saying that his elemental techs are all on par with Kirin... PS - by your logic, Karin > Hiruzen > Gokage which is just... :|

 

[RedRobin]

Did not have senjustu, its a mokuton technique, Hashirama uses it in sage mode and makes it much bigger than it is. Spiral zestu has Yamato inside him most likely which is the reason he is able to summon it.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Yes... Teenage Uchiha level Katon. And I will stand by that statement. I'm not belittling him. Did you see how huge Sasuke's Katon was when he was like... 8? Besides, my claim is much more believable than saying that his elemental techs are all on par with Kirin... PS - by your logic, Karin > Hiruzen > Gokage which is just... :|

First of all I did not say it is above Kirin. I said MAYBE in his prime his Lightning was on Kirin level.
Sasuke fodder katon is nothing compared to Hiruzen I would like a scan. Hiruzen katon made him look like a dot. Since when did I say it is on par with PS quit saying stuff I didn't say. I think Hiruzen>>>>>>>>>Karin I don't see how my logic is wanking Karin to be stronger than Hiruzen.