Hiruzen could have done a lot of things he didn't or couldn't do.

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Regardless of whether he had the courage, the reasoning or the mental capacity to take action in an appropriate manner, Hiruzen could have saved his village and a number of people a lot of pain and suffering if he, as the Hokage, had done any of the following:

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1. Number one on this list is Orochimaru(obviously). One of the most famous moments from part 1 Naruto, the moment Hiruzen stood by and let Orochimaru run free when he could have easily ended his life in a flash. Later on down the road, too old to even sustain shadow clones, Hiruzen paid the ultimate price for his mistake. He tried to mend things as best he could but what good did that do?

Orochimaru got away with mass murder but not only that, he reached scary levels of power and became an active threat to Konoha. Not to mention the curse mark that swayed Sasuke over to the Dark side of the force was also a result of this foolishness.

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2. Danzo. Nuff said. This is the same scenario as Oro, only on a much......much higher scale. This dude was partly(and in some cases fully) responsible for a lot of bad sh*t, and I mean a lot! But you guys don't need a history lesson. He is the guy who had access to a lot of power in Konoha(thanks to Hiruzen's sound judgement(sarcasm) and ignorance.

Orochimaru has Danzo's resources and encouragement to thank for his breakthrough in the real world application of Hashirama's cells in various forms. We all know where that led us.......(Mokuton Sage Madara)...........but that is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Danzo's misdeeds.


Another person who Hiruzen, as Hokage, could have put a permanent stop to, but for some ridiculous reason( I believe it was ignorance), he just let Danzo do as he pleased.


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3. Uchiha massacre. Another topic that needs no explanation. This happened due to a combination of Hiruzen's failed governing and Danzo's orchestration. An entire clan was slaughtered within the boundaries of Konoha over night people. Need I say more?


4. This one is for you. I believe I've covered all his major blunders so feel free to list something that needs to be mentioned.




Before I end this thread I just want to say this as an early response to the posts I know will be here soon enough.


I love Hiruzen. I cried when he sacrificed his life and cheered when beat Oro's ass down along with his Hokage summons all those years ago. I was psyched when he himself returned as an Edo Tensei. He remains one of my fav characters from this manga.


But I don't let my feelings obstruct facts. These things happened and Hiruzen was responsible for them as Hokage. I don't know why I made this thread, just felt like someone who wasn't a Sandaime hater had to come out and say this to make it clear. Anyway.......yeah......



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Well shit happens eh? Besides if he had not, no story to tell :/
 

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Well shit happens eh? Besides if he had not, no story to tell :/

I'm sure Obito would have happened regardless, and there's always room for more evil in the world. My point is, he didn't do all he could as Hokage. Konoha faced its darkest time under his leadership and his ignorance and inability to take action was the cause for a lot of it.
 

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well you are right..but all the kage's from konoha made one blunder or the other that lead to rikuodo madara...especially hashi he had a chance to kill madara once and for all,but decided not too because of friendship pffffff...now see what is happening in the manga.
 

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well you are right..but all the kage's from konoha made one blunder or the other that lead to rikuodo madara...especially hashi he had a chance to kill madara once and for all,but decided not too because of friendship pffffff...now see what is happening in the manga.

What?! No! Hashirama and the rest of the world was tricked into thinking that Madara had died by Madara himself. Hashirama truly believed he killed him:

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What?! No! Hashirama and the rest of the world was tricked into thinking that Madara had died by Madara himself. Hashirama truly believed he killed him:

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Hes talking about the first time he had the chance...
 

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I also like Hiruzen, but he was a terrible Hokage. He was just so accepting of everything and allowed it to happen.

About the Uchiha massacre however, I think Hiruzen did the right thing there. He tried to resume talks with the Uchiha but Danzo went behind his back and ordered Itachi to kill the Uchiha.
 

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You forgot how he killed Neji's father just Cuz Cloud wanted so (they wanted body of Hiashi but village gave them Hizashi for sealing byakugan).
 

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You forgot how he killed Neji's father just Cuz Cloud wanted so (they wanted body of Hiashi but village gave them Hizashi for sealing byakugan).

You know, I respect you a lot but I've noticed that you seem to be angry at any characters that did something bad to your faves, directly or indirectly. Didn't Hizashi sacrifice himself? And if that didn't happen, Neji would have grown up... happy? And probably boring? And he would not have had a reason to beat up Hinata :|
 

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It is not he didnt do many things it is because he couldn't do because of his fav student orochimaru went as rouge ninja and he was a great threat and he loved him the most than jiraya and tsunade
 
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