Hiruzen beating both the Kage? Hashi>Hiruzen

[ShaneEyyy]

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"This time", now we know when Hashirama and Tobirama were brought back the first time, they weren't at full power which is why it let Hiruzen to be able to defeat them.

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Now they are just calling Hashirama, "The God of Shinobi."

Hashirama>Hiruzen, now confirmed.

 

[Horus]

Well this was obvious

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

Already been covered dude. You're just a little late to the party.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

I smell flames. Time to get popcorn.

 

[godzillard]

i already predicted that along the watchtower
and a long time ago
check my predictions mate

 

[R4mbl3]

Hasnt everyone known this? I've Known this ever since I even heard of Hashi.

 

[LegendaryAce]

I've always said hashirama > hiruzen people just still hung over the hype hiruzen got but wont see how much hashirama is getting hyped through the manga.

I mean lets be honest without the wood dragon

what can hiruzen do against

Hacked Healing abilities ( no handsigns needed)
BOD
Mokuton Clones
Alot of Chakra
Mokuton + earth and water
He mastered almost everything with the hype from senju meaning (they master genjutsu,taijutsu ect) -dont missunderstand
hashirama has the upperhand in this fight since it will go on stamina ... dont see hiruzen 1hitting hashirama besides if he cowards out and uses RDS

 

[Omnipotent]

Obviously

 

[duken fist]

this has been a fact since the beginning of naruto!!

 

[RezLab123]

Ofc. Hashirama is boss.
Hashirama would **** Madara up any day...

 

[yuan of cruxis]

It wasnt clearly stated, you can only assume of how strong they were.
I guess it would make sense, since it was old Hiruzen after all that beat them both.
But Hiruzen was still called strongest Hokage in his prime, I never heard yet that Hashirama was called strongest Hokage!

 

[Ludicrous]

Hiruzen is in edo tensai mode. It would be interesting to see if he fares better in a match with hashirama now.

 

[Imperius]

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"This time", now we know when Hashirama and Tobirama were brought back the first time, they weren't at full power which is why it let Hiruzen to be able to defeat them.

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Now they are just calling Hashirama, "The God of Shinobi."

Hashirama>Hiruzen, now confirmed.

thanks

 

[Kages]

I'm right here

Tobirama said "this time" meaning last time they were at full power, like Kabuto said. This time they are at full power, people need to learn to read carefully, lol.

Hashirama> Hiruzen still hasn't at all been proven as it is just an opinion. When Kishi flat out says Hashirama is the stringest Hokage or Hashirama beats Hiruzen or Hiruzen says himself Hashirama> Himself, then I will believe you.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm right here

Tobirama said "this time" meaning last time they were at full power, like Kabuto said. This time they are at full power, people need to learn to read carefully, lol.

Hashirama> Hiruzen still hasn't at all been proven as it is just an opinion. When Kishi flat out says Hashirama is the stringest Hokage or Hashirama beats Hiruzen or Hiruzen says himself Hashirama> Himself, then I will believe you.

Nope, Tobirama saying we were brought back at full power this time means that they weren't brought back last time, but they were this time as in right now, I think you are the one who needs to read more carefully.

Hiruzen being the strongest Hokage is a clear retcon, just need Kishimoto to come out and say it clearly.

 

[Kages]

Nope, Tobirama saying we were brought back at full power this time means that they weren't brought back last time, but they were this time as in right now, I think you are the one who needs to read more carefully.

Hiruzen being the strongest Hokage is a clear retcon, just need Kishimoto to come out and say it clearly.

That's proof less, Kabuto said Orochimaru used Hashirama and Tobirama as perfect Edos

 

[KidGamer65]

That's proof less, Kabuto said Orochimaru used Hashirama and Tobirama as perfect Edos

Not really, as Tobirama clearly said they were brought back at full power this time, which means they weren't brought back at full power last time. When did Kabuto say that anyway? Its not like it matters but I'm just curious..

 

[startup97]

Nope, Tobirama saying we were brought back at full power this time means that they weren't brought back last time, but they were this time as in right now, I think you are the one who needs to read more carefully.

Hiruzen being the strongest Hokage is a clear retcon, just need Kishimoto to come out and say it clearly.

Don't be too hasty! We have yet to see all the Hokages in action. From there we can debate! Also Hashirama and Tobirama were perfected Edos.

 

[KidGamer65]

Don't be too hasty! We have yet to see all the Hokages in action. From there we can debate! Also Hashirama and Tobirama were perfected Edos.

Are you two really going against the manga? Tobirama himself just stated they weren't at full power last time thus they weren't at full power.

 

[Draphsin]

Hashi>hiruzen...................hell sakur............no tenten>hiruzen

Yeah you almost went a little too far with that one xd