This is alive Hiruzen he isn't doing all those jutsu your thinking he can be doesn't have the reserves.
Hiruzen lighting isn't focused enough to pierce anything it's similar to Kakuzu which purpose is to shock/sterilize opponents not rip through them like Rakiri and chidori spear.
What is "all those jutsu?" Lmao. Stop. One jutsu was mentioned. If you want to claim Hiruzen can't use Raiton a few times I'm going to need you to support it.
And no, Kakuzu's lightning is directly stated to be capable of piercing. So that ends this argument.
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Ok, then I agree C1 and C2 missiles aren't a threat...unless Deidara makes land mines and Orochimaru or a spore clone places them underground via mayfly for Hiruzen or Sasori to step on. They have no way of detecting the land mines underground so they will eventually step on one.
A platform of Sand lets them both hover safely above the ground. Though the way this battle will likely go, Hiruzen and Sasori will be fighting in pretty much the same general area and will have no need to make any kind of movement that'd put them at risk of setting off any land mines. Hiruzen's range is enough to catch Deidara and Raiton can negate any incoming bombs so they don't need to run around the field. Oro's own offense has also been addressed. There's also the fact that a giant Raiton stream can take out the C2 bird when/after it's summoned and before Oro has spread most of the landmines.
Did I say Deidara would set off C3 while on the ground?
1. Oro summons Rashomon
2. Deidara creates C3 bomb while Oro summons snake
3. Snake swallows bomb and goes underground
Deidara can take to the air before he detonates it and neither Hiruzen nor Sasori can detect the snake sneaking up on them underground (to my knowledge.) Matter of fact, this doesn't even have to be C3 and a snake isn't needed since Oro can make a spore clone go underground w/ a C2 land mine, then detonate it once it gets close to either opponent.
In scenarios where C2 is used Deidara does not even need to be aerial. He can just be on his bird hovering slightly above ground in case he needs a quick getaway.
C3 takes longer to prep than the rest of his bombs. What do you think these Hiruzen and Sasori will be doing once Rashomon is summoned? Waiting for Oro and Deidara to emerge? Lmao they simply go around the gates and assault them. This battle won't ever be a long range match so we can forget about C3 being set up before Hiruzen and Sasori reach him. Then there's the fact that C3 in it's prepared size can't fit inside any snake's mouth, and even if it could they'd be able to tell the snake is approaching. [
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Using a land mine is obviously impossible because landmines only go off when they are touched, so they'd have to wait for Hiruzen and Sasori to actually step on the landmine.
Paraphrasing my argument to make it seem weaker than it is. Snakes need to only block LOS and act as a distraction long enough for Oro to get underground which should not take more than a second with mayfly. Once he's underground the other team has no way of tracking his movements. All it takes is a Kusanagi snipe and Sasori/Hiruzen's dead.
Lmao I don't need to make your argument seem weaker than it is because it's already beyond weak. They don't need to track his movements when his target is pretty obvious, them. Setting up an Iron Sand protection around them once they notice Oro has gone missing (which will happen unless snakes can garner 100% of their attention, which is not possible w/ Sasori, Hiruzen and a clone being on this field and with Sasori's ability to literally one shot any kind of summon in a second or two) or levitating above the ground using Sasori's Iron Sand lets them block or evade this underground+snipe combo.
There are three gates, since he does not need to use more than one at a time he has three uses.
Which doesn't help your point because in that specific scenario using Rashomon is pointless and doesn't help nor is it practical.
Haha. I'm gonna assume this is a joke too.
Give proof that Hiruzen's raiton is on a far greater level than a Zetsu amped Oro.
Or you could prove that the weak Fuuton Orochimaru showed is strong enough to repel Hiruzen's Bijuu+ sized Raiton, but you can't because it's simply not true. Why would "zetsu amped" matter? The term "zetsu amped" doesn't make sense because being in a zetsu meatsuit doesn't enhance your Ninjutsu's power. Having Hashirama's DNA doesn't make your ninjutsu stronger. I hope this is a joke too.
