Well.....Apparently, Hirashin fanboys have been on on a "high" of some sort, that they have begun to fathom excuses as to why Minato and Tobirama have a chance of being victorious against Madara. I'll elaborate.
Without any physical connection he freely manipulates a portion of his Susano'o. A critical ability many fail to consider which would easily allow Madara to best certain Hirashin jutsu. Jikūkan for example, would be the worst possible approach to long range Susano'o offences either with the Kyubi or without; such as a bombardment of Susano'o infused Biju-Dama as Madara could simply disperse their course to avoid linear effect of Jikūkan and then redirect them to the desired Target as well as attack simultaneously. It is something that was portrayed also in his fight against Hashirama:
Madara fires the Dama into the air while Hashirama directly following falls in the opposite direction, to the ground. If Madara could not have manipulated it's course of action then the Rashoumon would not have been necessary as the attack would have continued traveling in the initial direction: upward. It was then again showcased as Madara
First of all because of it's composition. Susano'o isn't constantly the user's chakra (Shintai + Seishin enerugi's) enveloping their bodies simply because it may become ethereal at the users will [
The redundancy lies in a few factors:
-> The portion of Susano'o the Hirashin user wishes to tag must be 'tangible'. Which leaves sufficient interception: If the option of the Hirashin user is to use their actual bodies or that of a clones to have physical contact with Susano'o then the Susano'o user could allow the desired point to become etheral and crush the Hirashin user via Susanoo's CQC abilities [
-> Inton constantly changes. Something that should be obvious at this point; that, if Susano'o is destroyed it is re-composed by new Inton energy. If the Hirashin Mark was placed on the previously used Inton energy, then it evaporates along with it as it cannot be removed.
-> If Susano'o is removed from the user via Hirashin in no way secures victory as it can be effortlessly replenished.
-> Tagging Susano'o would not enable the Hirashin user withdraw the user itself as once more, it is not [constantly] a chakra entity and one inevitably connected to the user as if this was the case, Gaara would not have been able to separate Madara from Susano'o. If a literal connection from the Susano'o to the user's chakra was mandatory for Susano'o to work then Madara would not have been able to control it's Katana's while lacking the physical connection.
Unfortunately for Blondie, Susano'o isn't in direct contact to the wielders Chakra. A Susano'o Katana can exist and function normally while not being connected to Susano'o itself or Users chakra just as a Katon jutsu or Rasengan. Doesn't mean that if Namikaze or Nadaime were to tag the jutsu, that they would be able to manipulate the user. The Kyuubi's cloak is different to Susano'o as it is being sourced by the Kyuubi which is inside of the user and as Kage bunshin carry the same chakra signature of the original, then it is possible to teleport entities via Kage Bunshin. However, Susano'o is formed from 'nothingness' bringing forth Inton similarly as Amaterasu.
Other. IV.
-> No hirashin user maintain chakra pools that could rival Madara's and would simply be outlasted.
-> The Kyubi being an element provides Madara an inevitable victory.
-> Even if teleported, the Kyuubi can be re-summoned.
-> Madara could utilize the Sharingan on Nadaime in order to cancel the Edo Tensei.
-> Minato fails before Genjutsu
Madara controls Susano'o like a remote. I.
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Without any physical connection he freely manipulates a portion of his Susano'o. A critical ability many fail to consider which would easily allow Madara to best certain Hirashin jutsu. Jikūkan for example, would be the worst possible approach to long range Susano'o offences either with the Kyubi or without; such as a bombardment of Susano'o infused Biju-Dama as Madara could simply disperse their course to avoid linear effect of Jikūkan and then redirect them to the desired Target as well as attack simultaneously. It is something that was portrayed also in his fight against Hashirama:
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Madara fires the Dama into the air while Hashirama directly following falls in the opposite direction, to the ground. If Madara could not have manipulated it's course of action then the Rashoumon would not have been necessary as the attack would have continued traveling in the initial direction: upward. It was then again showcased as Madara
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of Shin-shuusenju's arms. Tagging Susano'o is redundant. II.
First of all because of it's composition. Susano'o isn't constantly the user's chakra (Shintai + Seishin enerugi's) enveloping their bodies simply because it may become ethereal at the users will [
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]. The foundation of Susano'o is Inton: The spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. However at this point, it still remains intangible but gains destructibility and a physical form as Yōton is supplied. Once it is no longer being nourished by Yōton energy, the remaining Inton accordingly evaporates into nothingness [
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]. The redundancy lies in a few factors:
-> The portion of Susano'o the Hirashin user wishes to tag must be 'tangible'. Which leaves sufficient interception: If the option of the Hirashin user is to use their actual bodies or that of a clones to have physical contact with Susano'o then the Susano'o user could allow the desired point to become etheral and crush the Hirashin user via Susanoo's CQC abilities [
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]. Alternately, if the Hirashin user decides to use a Hirashin-Kunai; Susano'o could remain intangible to allow the Kunai to pass right through. -> Inton constantly changes. Something that should be obvious at this point; that, if Susano'o is destroyed it is re-composed by new Inton energy. If the Hirashin Mark was placed on the previously used Inton energy, then it evaporates along with it as it cannot be removed.
-> If Susano'o is removed from the user via Hirashin in no way secures victory as it can be effortlessly replenished.
-> Tagging Susano'o would not enable the Hirashin user withdraw the user itself as once more, it is not [constantly] a chakra entity and one inevitably connected to the user as if this was the case, Gaara would not have been able to separate Madara from Susano'o. If a literal connection from the Susano'o to the user's chakra was mandatory for Susano'o to work then Madara would not have been able to control it's Katana's while lacking the physical connection.
Link between Susano'o and the user is misunderstood. III.
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Unfortunately for Blondie, Susano'o isn't in direct contact to the wielders Chakra. A Susano'o Katana can exist and function normally while not being connected to Susano'o itself or Users chakra just as a Katon jutsu or Rasengan. Doesn't mean that if Namikaze or Nadaime were to tag the jutsu, that they would be able to manipulate the user. The Kyuubi's cloak is different to Susano'o as it is being sourced by the Kyuubi which is inside of the user and as Kage bunshin carry the same chakra signature of the original, then it is possible to teleport entities via Kage Bunshin. However, Susano'o is formed from 'nothingness' bringing forth Inton similarly as Amaterasu.
Other. IV.
-> No hirashin user maintain chakra pools that could rival Madara's and would simply be outlasted.
-> The Kyubi being an element provides Madara an inevitable victory.
-> Even if teleported, the Kyuubi can be re-summoned.
-> Madara could utilize the Sharingan on Nadaime in order to cancel the Edo Tensei.
-> Minato fails before Genjutsu
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