Hinata Vs Sakura
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Good, at least you resigned to that....
But you still didn't make any progress at accepting that Air Palm is only a heavy air blow that maybe makes minor damage to the internal organs.
Besides, air palm is not like Gentle fist, Gentle can make internal injuries, and by using Byakugan to localize the chakra points can also disrupts the chakra flow of the target.
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So Hinata's Air Palm is enough to defeat Sakura, uh?
- Sakura can heal internal injuries, I already proved it to you here, Byakugou can do that:
You must be registered for see images - Kisame's chakra clone made it, it was able to keep moving after the attack, and was capable of performing jutsus. So no apparent wound or chakra disruption.
- There is no guarantee Hinata will hit Sakura. Sakura is faster and smarter than Hinata, without saying she needs a little prep. time to do it, like Hiashi said:
You must be registered for see images - You are comparing Neji's Air Palm, not Hinata's. Hinata was always weaker than Neji, so it's safe to say that his Air Palm is clearly superior.
Hinata only repelled one wooden spike and now she can kill in one Hakke Kushou shot?? this seems legit to you?
Seriously....
She lost that argument, and the one that stated that Air Palm can seal off Byakugou.
But she never had any arguments at all, she is just a fangirl wanting her favorite character to be better than the Heroine,
can you blame her for that? I am starting to pity her....
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your not very smart your just a sakura fan hinata owns with gentle fist and gentle fist does damage internal body it can also shut down your chakara flow naruto vs neji is proof and how can sakura heal without chakaraUsing Byakugou? Where was that stated? You are just making stuff up.
Sakura didn't only heal the bleeding, she also healed the organs that were wounded when she was impaled you know?
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Yes, It's a high speed attack once it someone perform it, but it takes a little prep. time, remember?:
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He tanked it directly, all its body was blown away, you can tell because of the effect in the back of its body.
And, lets suppose it didn't, you are just assuming a target striked in the head with Air palm will have so severe consequences? Even the technique wasn't never successfully used in an offensive way? You are over hyping Air Palm, and Hinata, because you are comparing Neji's skill, not Hinata's.
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XD Hilarious!
So now gentle fist disrupts seals too, laughable, Gentle Fist only disrupts the chakra flow by "turning off" the chakra points, Tanketsus, in the human body, not the seals... Gentle fist cannot seal off the Kyuubi either, you know?
And please, let me recap, when Kisame got blown away with Hakke Kusho, he still used a lot of jutsus after that....
So there is no support in the manga for all the nonsense you are saying...
You better just debate pairing stuff, you are good at that...
There is nothing about Chakra Shape Manipulation in the manga. Well, not in a way that makes Kaiten different from other jutsus.
My point is, CES was able to break Madara's Susanno, that chakra shroud around Neji Crystal Chakra speak of is paper-like in comparison....
Lets analyse how gentle fist has proved to work in the manga before talking nonsense, shall we?
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And this is just the worst scenario.
In order to disrupts the chakra of the Target, Hyuuga members need to aim their attacks to the chakra points (Tanketsu), using their Byakugan to see them. If they just attack recklessly the target will only have its organs damaged severely.
But the thing is, there are 361 chakra points in the human body. And coming back to the vs, Sakura can use both hands and legs to attack with CES. But a single hit from Gentle Fist in the chakra points in her right arm or right hand won't leave her unable to perform CES Kicks, nor prevent her from using her other hand to attack.
This is just a copy and paste, I don't think your comment is worthy of a elaborated response....
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If you actually read what he said, he said Sakura seal can be utilized the same way kurama chakra was used to restore naruto chakra.
And your character bashing isn't helping your argument either.
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Sakura. Her dodging ability is beyond hinata's attack speed hinata's showcase of taijustu against pain was laughable. whereas sasukra lerend to doge sasori's techs such as Iron unleash even without chiyo's assist. Moreover Katsuyu would be a good decoy. Overall Sasukra has better feats and experience having fought and dealt with Akatsuki. Hinata is more of a tracker and cant really fight thats left to kiba and dog
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Hinata's attack speed is slow? How amusing...
Didnt sakura get clobbered by a flying rock and had to have kakashi save her ass from the wooden spikes? Where were her amazing dodging skills then? The same spikes... may I remind you, that hinata avoided while also covering for naruto.
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Kurama's chakra has been described as dense, powerful, and sinister.
The gentle fist closes chakra points by forcing them shut. However, they can also be forced open, as naruto showed... but with naruto... his regular blue chakra didnt cut it... his chakra couldnt unsealed the coils... no, he had to rely on the powerful red bijuui chakra to force the coils open. To either close or open the coils, you need a powerful force to do this.
Regular chakra flow isnt gonna unsealed coils.... as we saw with hinata and naruto.
Releasing the yin seal is nothing more than letting out more regular chakra flow out into the network...
The point of gentle fist is to stop chakra flow. So how in God's name does it make any logical sense to say that the fighting style that focuses on stopping chakra flow can be countered with chakra flow?
The gentle fist closes chakra points by forcing them shut. However, they can also be forced open, as naruto showed... but with naruto... his regular blue chakra didnt cut it... his chakra couldnt unsealed the coils... no, he had to rely on the powerful red bijuui chakra to force the coils open. To either close or open the coils, you need a powerful force to do this.
Regular chakra flow isnt gonna unsealed coils.... as we saw with hinata and naruto.
Releasing the yin seal is nothing more than letting out more regular chakra flow out into the network...
The point of gentle fist is to stop chakra flow. So how in God's name does it make any logical sense to say that the fighting style that focuses on stopping chakra flow can be countered with chakra flow?
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And those are supposed to be the characteristics that make it capable of using Kyuubi's chakra after 64 palms? Even if they were, it's not canon.
Naruto couldn't feel any chakra in his chakra flow after Neji used the palms on him, Neji had just burned all, that's why when we got to see through Neji's Byakugan, Naruto's chakra flow was empty, he had no base chakra in his network.
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None of Kyuubi chakra's properties were stated to be the key that makes his plan work.
The thing is, Byakugou is chakra stored in a seal as well, and it's true Sakura had no chakra left in her chakra flow before she released Byakugou:
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So It's fair to say that her seal is completely independent of her chakra flow, just like the Kyuubi for Naruto, since she was able to use a skill that regenerates every injury in her body:
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Meaning that if the chakra doesn't reactivates the chakra flow, as it logically will, the regenerative properties of her technique will do the trick.
Yes it will, it doesn't matter what type of chakra it is, it's about where it come from, if the chakra belongs to your chakra flow, 64 palms will burn it off, but when it comes to seals it can't do sh*t...
Hinata doesn't have another source of chakra, and also didn't receive the 64 palms, Naruto was unable to use his own chakra after Neji burnt it all, he had to borrow it from the Kyuubi, which is also chakra stored in a seal safe from Gentle Fist.
That will reactivate the chakra flow, just like Naruto did.
Blame Kishi for giving Hyuuga's that kind of weak point, I have nothing to do with that...
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. It was never even said how exactly kurama's chakra unblocked the coils. Youre just assuming it was due to being another source of chakra. There are two possibilities.
A) Kurama's chakra unblocked them because it was sealed chakra... If this is the case, then yes, yin seal could unblock them.
B) Kurama's chakra unblocked them because his bijuu chakra is much more powerful than human chakra.... If this is the case, then no yin seal can't unblock them.
So as you can see... Arguing whether yin seal can or cant unblock coils is speculation and nothing more. So until we see Sakura using yin seal to unblock chakra coils.... or if it's stated as fact that it can unblock coils... You should stop trying to assert your fanfic as though it's fact.
From what we know, gentle fist can stop regular human chakra flow, but it can't do so to red bijuu chakra. Until proven otherwise, the burden of proof rests on your shoulders, and you have no legitimate argument other than comparing a tailed beast's chakra to a peasent's.
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A) Kurama's chakra unblocked them because it was sealed chakra... If this is the case, then yes, yin seal could unblock them.
B) Kurama's chakra unblocked them because his bijuu chakra is much more powerful than human chakra.... If this is the case, then no yin seal can't unblock them.
So as you can see... Arguing whether yin seal can or cant unblock coils is speculation and nothing more. So until we see Sakura using yin seal to unblock chakra coils.... or if it's stated as fact that it can unblock coils... You should stop trying to assert your fanfic as though it's fact.
From what we know, gentle fist can stop regular human chakra flow, but it can't do so to red bijuu chakra. Until proven otherwise, the burden of proof rests on your shoulders, and you have no legitimate argument other than comparing a tailed beast's chakra to a peasent's.
Ill leave it at that
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The manga never even hints another possibility, the reason why the Kyuubis chakra wasn't affected by Juuken is because it's independent from his network, and since we see Naruto's chakra flow being refilled from the center of his stomach, it's the only logical reason.
Now, It is true the Kyuubis chakra is superior than regular, but no one including Hiashi, Neji, the Hokage, or Kakashi, said something about its superior healing properties being the key that unseal the chakra points.
BTW, Byakugou is a regenerative technique that can reconstruct any damaged part or organs in the user's body, whatever Gentle Fist does to the chakra flow it will disable it. So i repeat myself, If the extra load of chakra it's not the answer, the regenerative properties from Byakugou is.
From the girl that said:
- "CES cannot break the chakra shroud"
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- "Air palm can seal off Byakugou"
It's not fanfic, I just made my conclusion by comparing facts, you don't have any evidence that the Kyuubi chakra was the exception, since no one said anything about it when Naruto used that strategy, all we see was chakra refilling the network from his stomach, anything weird in particular, and it wasn't such a a big amount of chakra since Naruto was able to keep his personality during the fight.
That is not true, what kind of chakra you think the Juubi clones had?
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I mean, It's fine if you don't know Sakura's feats, but Hinata? What kind of terrible debater fangirl are you?
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Well, well, well... It seems like the Gentle fist can render sealed chakra useless.
Its a sad day for sakurat fans
Its a sad day for sakurat fans
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When was this.
Anyways this match up isn't debatle. Kishi clearly showed and portrayed team 7 on a different level than the other teams
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Lol yeah Ok Buddy,Sakura There are 361 points in the body sakura is slightly faster and was trained in evasion so She would need to hit 4 points to successfully stop her monster strength.Sakura has amazing Analyses meaning she can find the weak point within her Byakugan and exploit it.What's Air Palm going to do when she survived a stab in the abdomen.Flimsy Air Palm that a 30% clone survived and still could use a Jutsu so there isn't a gentle fist property in that Fangirl.
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