Hinata and Sakura comparison

[Natsu Shazneel]

Who said anything about argument. Can't you just reread what I stated. The whole point I'm trying to address is the taste to this dilemma. Well these novels defenately influence to the canon but even the fact the matter is noncanon, it won't stop me with how I personally see, so yeah I don't care how you think of me. Even I consider this filler arc canon, it doesn't actually mean it's canon when used for argument. Sheesh

This arguement wasn't about you. Ok I will break it down for you.

You said:

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Why are you guys still arguing?? Who cares if it's not a canon, what difference does it make when Kishi going to wind up screwing everything

The Op said:

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If you haven't noticed,you can see that for the most part, Hinata character still didn't change, the difference is that she got with Naruto, but even looking at last movie, mostly all Hinata was doing was trying to impress her Naruto-kun still being shy and still getting saved By Naruto and just like for the whole story, her whole character is just being based on being with Naruto.

While In Sakura Hidan, (Shown in spoilers) Sakura is doing things for herself and is actually Interacting and being helpful to the village and it's not just Sasuke centre, she's interacting with more people and doing other things, even from scenes in the last show, she's more useful now

Not Saying that Sakura is a good female lead, but this just shows more that Sakura>Hinata

Then I said:

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The Op compared canon material with non canon material. And you are asking who cares if it's not canon?

Show me where I questioned your personal preference? Or asked for it for that matter?

 

[Blink89]

A Hinata v. Sakura thread going 15 pages. Shocker.

 

[BLAZE]

So as the Novels are as canon as The Last.Hmm i was saying that and only Hinata fapboys disagrees

 

[lndra]

So as the Novels are as canon as The Last.Hmm i was saying that and only Hinata fapboys disagrees

I talked to him about that a while ago. He pretty much said this

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[Shruikan]

A Hinata v. Sakura thread going 15 pages. Shocker.

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[lndra]

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) The top 5 seem familiar

How do you do that again?

 

[BLAZE]

I talked to him about that a while ago. He pretty much said this

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Hmm then she is right Kishi was involved according to her

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) The top 5 seem familiar

Just saw that

 

[Shruikan]

How do you do that again?

Go the NDS section and infront of the thread name click on the number next to replies

 

[lndra]

Hmm then she is right Kishi was involved according to her

Yeah he has been involved in movies that are non canon just the same; Literally all of them.

I'll just go by whether or not the expanded non-canon universe is real, based on what we see from next week's spoiler of Naruto, and Part 3.

 

[BLAZE]

Yeah he has been involved in movies that are non canon just the same; Literally all of them.

I'll just go by whether or not the expanded non-canon universe is real, based on what we see from next week's spoiler of Naruto, and Part 3.

Then don't spam any thread with non canon BS next time

 

[lndra]

Then don't spam any thread with non canon BS next time

He said they were non canon twice already though, and then he said they would only be considered canon if we do get information. Not making it any less canon than it already is. So far it should be obvious considering the details presented. So I see no validation for me not so say they are.

 

[SayWhat21]

yeah good idea comparing a side character to the heroine, also they both suck, but to be honest i have to say sakura actually had a lot of panel time and hinata only had a little panel time, so i have to say hinata>sakura

 

[BLAZE]

He said they were non canon twice already though,

don't see your point you asked for kishimoto's involvement which Complex provided you

and then he said they would only be considered canon if we do get information. Not making it any less canon than it already is. So far it should be obvious considering the details presented. So I see no validation for me not so say they are.

She is considering The Last Semi Canon and Novels not becoz of heavy promotion thing

Both are works after main storyline and holds the same relevance for me and most of the people

 

[lndra]

don't see your point you asked for kishimoto's involvement which Complex provided you

Well like I said, Kishimoto working on them is nothing new. It actually makes sense and fills the hole on the later conversation. "How did these people create novels for characters without being developers in Naruto". It applies to the same way how the non-canon movies are made as-well.

She is considering The Last Semi Canon and Novels not becoz of heavy promotion thing

Both are works after main storyline and holds the same relevance for me and most of the people

She only said it would be Semi-Canon if Kishimoto had confirmed it because she believes only Manga is canon. She said they are not canon because they derivative works from from the main story line (another screen shot), and that the fact that these novels expand from a story line that is not introduced in the manga.

So they would either need a confirmation from the author, or some kind of relevance in Part 3 making it so. I'll just leave it at that because I am tired of back and forth convo's tonight. Later Blaz

 

[BLAZE]

Well like I said, Kishimoto working on them is nothing new. It actually makes sense and fills the hole on the later conversation. "How did these people create novels for characters without being developers in Naruto". It applies to the same way how the non-canon movies are made as-well.


She only said it would be Semi-Canon if Kishimoto had confirmed it because she believes only Manga is canon. She said they are not canon because they derivative works from from the main story line (another screen shot), and that the fact that these novels expand from a story line that is not introduced in the manga.

Yup later Lol

Kishimoto did not help with anything.

 

[Endles Waltz]

I'll just go by whether or not the expanded non-canon universe is real, based on what we see from next week's spoiler of Naruto, and Part 3.

Yea that's what Blazing is suggesting in other words.

And if that's your outlook then being the first to jump on any thread regarding these novels calling them non-canon is unnecessary. Lol

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About my point on KoL, I was mostly referring to 699-700. Although he didn't like how Sasuke was giving Naruto too much credit in his speech, he was ok with Sakura and Sasuke's whole interaction at the end of the chapter, he even put the forehead poke as thumbnail when most people put Naruto and Sasuke's farewell.

 

[lndra]

Yea that's what Blazing is suggesting in other words.

And if that's your outlook then being the first to jump on any thread regarding these novels calling them non-canon is unnecessary.

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About my point on KoL, I was mostly referring to 699-700. Although he didn't like how Sasuke was giving Naruto too much credit in his speech, he was ok with Sakura and Sasuke's whole interaction at the end of the chapter, he even put the forehead poke as thumbnail when most people put Naruto and Sasuke's farewell.

Well I agree at this point with the both of you. I'll calm on that until Part 3.

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I'll watch it. He was going crazy before that when she confessed her love again, but if he enjoyed the final goodbye, then I won't say anything wrong on that part.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

This arguement wasn't about you. Ok I will break it down for you.

You said:


The Op said:


Then I said:


Show me where I questioned your personal preference? Or asked for it for that matter?

Ok then you seem you don't understand what I'm trying to say.

Why are you guys still arguing?? Who cares if it's not a canon, what difference does it make when Kishi going to wind up screwing everything

What I'm trying to imply here is that you guys are arguing whether Kishi takes an involvment with this novels which I've indicated that your argument are meaningless because it doesn't hold much significance with how the story went down even if kishi did write it .

The Op compared canon material with non canon material. And you are asking who cares if it's not canon?

You later said that if I'm okay with the OP argument, but I turned the tides under my terms, which I've stated before that I don't give a shit I just went off topic so it has nothing to do with his argument and because of what I stated, my response lead you to believe that I'm referring to the OP argument accusing me of saying that my preference means canon which is not the case. This is where you questioned my preference.

Well not everyone sees with your eyes. Therefore what you consider canon does not mean it is canon. Also this thread was never about you so stop making it about you. Fact is this novel is not canon. So comparing something that is canon to it is a flawed arguement.