Himawari [Discussion Thread]

[Ambivalence]

Wow! That's shocking man. Kushina was able to restrain the 9 tails. I would hardly call that fodder. And Nagato? I don't know even know where to begin. Can a complete fodder wield the rennegan? And have the chakra to handle it? Why did Madara pick him? As a madara fan I am insulted lol.

1. For the second time: Kushina and Nagato were full-blooded Uzumaki, Himi is not. If Naruto ever displayed those chakra chains, then you'd have a solid argument, which is not the case.
2. You think someone is going to give her powerful eyes? Seriously, why do you even bring Nagato to the table, when all his power is based on somebody else's power?

You're acting like I'm saying outrageous things just because it's the truth about the characters you like. If you would please stop sounding so shocked and viewed things objectively, that'd be great.

No. It's an analogy. You cannot state that genes are irrelevant that's just plain ludicrous. I would agree with you If you said it's plays some role.

If you could actually think for yourself instead of just assuming things by default we wouldn't be having this argument. Genes only play a role when considering the circumstances surrounding the ways the parents were made strong themselves.

 

[Torche]

Where are these guys getting all this marriage shit from?They are like 12 Lol

Tbh, I thought they were like 10. They look younger than Naruto's gen @ chapter 1. But, I guess the Bolt thing could start a bit after 700.

 

[Char Aznable]

Where are these guys getting all this marriage shit from?They are like 12 Lol

And 5 months ago they were 7, your point?

Also that didn't stop SS and NH from being forshadowed when they were 12.

We know Kishi is so unimaginative that he would pair them up.

 

[Sir Blades]

Where are these guys getting all this marriage shit from?They are like 12 Lol

They did it in part 1, logic dictates they would do the same in part 3.

 

[Torche]

Wow! That's shocking man. Kushina was able to restrain the 9 tails. I would hardly call that fodder. And Nagato? I don't know even know where to begin. Can a complete fodder wield the rennegan? And have the chakra to handle it? Why did Madara pick him? As a madara fan I am insulted lol.




No. It's an analogy. You cannot state that genes are irrelevant that's just plain ludicrous. I would agree with you If you said it's plays some role but not a definitive predeterminer of power

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But, Ashura ended up = Indra because of "cooperation" or whatever. :bdpf:

 

[Ōkami]

I totally forgot about her.

 

[Defence]

1. For the second time: Kushina and Nagato were full-blooded Uzumaki, Himi is not.
2. You think someone is going to give her powerful eyes? Seriously, why do you even bring Nagato to the table, when all his power is based on somebody else's power?

You're acting like I'm saying outrageous things just because it's the truth about the characters you like. If you would please stop sounding so shocked and viewed things objectively, that'd be great.



If you could actually think for yourself instead of just assuming things by default we wouldn't be having this argument.

1. You said aside from Naruto all other Uzumaki's were fodder. Which is just ridiculous really.
2. That's why I brought in Nagato. Then you went on to say that he was a fodder pre Madara's rennagan. And I told you that Madara picked him for a reason and a fodder could not have handled it.

I'm not being rude Bro. You brought these claims into this thread. Not me. I would rather we get back to topic.

 

[Shruikan]

And 5 months ago they were 7, your point?

Also that didn't stop SS and NH from being forshadowed when they were 12.

We know Kishi is so unimaginative that he would pair them up.

So you are telling me we will see actual Bolt and Salad marriage in manga in 10 chapters and movie?

 

[Defence]

I totally forgot about her.

Let's blame NB lol. Bolt and Salad have a large following already. Main characters eclipse the rest I suppose. But we love the tiny princess

 

[Char Aznable]

So you are telling me we will see actual Bolt and Salad marriage in manga in 10 chapters and movie?

30 sec epilogue scene at the end of the movie. Like SP did with The Last. OR Kishi will pull an epilogue in the short Boruto series.

 

[Defence]

Genes only play a role when considering the circumstances surrounding the ways the parents were made strong themselves.

It's either genetic or environmental. Which is it? I'm saying both matter. And that's where logic lies. You cannot say genes are not going to have an impact and backtrack.

 

[Ambivalence]

1. You said aside from Naruto all other Uzumaki's were fodder. Which is just ridiculous really.

Lol, please do quote me saying that. I said Naruto is the only impressive Uzumaki, which doesn't make his clan fodder, just featless. Only Kushina and Karin have demonstrated something unique to the Uzumaki, which is chakra chains - something that, for the last time, is a full-blooded Uzumaki feat. That's it.

2. That's why I brought in Nagato. Then you went on to say that he was a fodder pre Madara's rennagan. And I told you that Madara picked him for a reason and a fodder could not have handled it.

You said ''that's why I brought in Nagato'', but you didn't actually tell me why. And yeah, Nagato without the Rinnegan is nothing special, and I stand by it since I don't wank him. If you care to prove otherwise, show me scans of him being a formidable Uzumaki, instead of relying on empty hype and this ''strong chakra'' that probably wouldn't even put him on K11 level.

 

[Defence]

Lol, please do quote me saying that. I said Naruto is the only impressive Uzumaki, which doesn't make his clan fodder, just featless. Only Kushina and Karin have demonstrated something unique to the Uzumaki, which is chakra chains - something that, for the last time, is a full-blooded Uzumaki feat. That's it.



You said ''that's why I brought in Nagato'', but you didn't actually tell me why. And yeah, Nagato without the Rinnegan is nothing special, and I stand by it since I don't wank him. If you care to prove otherwise, show me scans of him being a formidable Uzumaki, instead of relying on empty hype and this ''strong chakra'' that probably wouldn't even put him on K11 level.

I have read but you are editing your replies and it's hard to keep up. My stance remains. We are products of our parents and the environment shapes us.

Going back to topic, it's interesting that people expect Boruto to take after his dad. Yet no one seems to this Himawari can. Could that be because of how kishi disregards female characters or are they just being selective

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Nagato? You freaking kidding me? The guy that would be absolutely nothing without Madara's eyes? And what's so impressive about Kushina and Karin except their chakra chains, which, again, only full-blooded Uzumaki have demonstrated? Mito is completely featless, by the way.



That's right. Don't know where you got the impression I thought she would be god-like. :|

I think you need to chill cause you're kinda going to far with this.............

 

[BLAZE]

Please note:

This is a Bolt / Salad FREE zone

Thanks everyone

But Popular Chars will dominate the thread anyway :|

New Gen Popularity on Pixiv

Uchiha Sarada- 1,953,943
Uzumaki Bolt- 1,072,933
Uzumaki Himawari- 435,301
Nara Shikadai- 433,868
Yamanaka Inojin- 198,544
Akimichi ChouChou- 57,100

 

[Defence]

Cant take you seriously after such blunder. Laters Defense.

You yanks spell it with an S. English is English not American ;-) don't make me pull out the Oxford dictionary

defence

Syllabification: de·fense
Pronunciation: /dəˈfens/ /ˈdēˌfens/
(British defence)

 

[Xāvî1]

Himawari is adorable
Genes do play a role
We will probably see some of her dynamics with Boruto, Naruto and Hinata.
Uzumaki are no fodder
Or else they wouldnt be feared and destroyed.
People who say that are just not having it. Or cause they aren't Uchiha etc.

That's all i gotta say.

Not to mention, that the weakest uzumaki shown in manga soloed the buddah statue alone!

 

[Defence]

But Popular Chars will dominate the thread anyway :|

New Gen Popularity on Pixiv

Uchiha Sarada- 1,953,943
Uzumaki Bolt- 1,072,933
Uzumaki Himawari- 435,301
Nara Shikadai- 433,868
Yamanaka Inojin- 198,544
Akimichi ChouChou- 57,100

Third place is not bad. Go Himawari.

 

[BLAZE]

Third place is not bad. Go Himawari.

Not even half as popular as Bolt

 

[Ambivalence]

I think you need to chill cause you're kinda going to far with this.............

Oh, you're more than welcome to prove me wrong, providing proof, of course. Wait, you can't? Catch you later, then.

No, seriously, Defence has made it clear he doesn't want more off-topic chattering in his thread, and I'll respect his request, so you can either come to VM or keep your opinion to yourself. Either way, I'm done here when it comes to this argument.

New Gen Popularity on Pixiv

Uchiha Sarada- 1,953,943
Uzumaki Bolt- 1,072,933

Whoa. Didn't expect such a huge gap. It's no surprise that the two main kids are leading, though.