Except Sasori always start vs fights in Hiruko. once sasori gets out of hiruko hidan will immediately start chasing after him, sasori wont have time to summon the 3rd kazekage puppet whatsoever, even if he does, iron sand takes a certain time to do , unless sasori can keep him at distance he has no chance of winning. Unfortunately he can't.
No? He can wait for Hidan to destroy it. Given that the Third is immune to metallic weapons, the scythe would be useless.
Or, it could block the scythe with the powerful weapons presented earlier on. Not really that hard.
There's a difference between impatience and incompetence, Sasori is certainly not falling into the latter category.
No? He can wait for Hidan to destroy it. Given that the Third is immune to metallic weapons, the scythe would be useless.
Or, it could block the scythe with the powerful weapons presented earlier on. Not really that hard.
There's a difference between impatience and incompetence, Sasori is certainly not falling into the latter category.
This guy is in denial and seem to have a bad understanding of anything in the manga. Or more likely he is just trolling you.
As for the match up Sasori wins low dif. Assuming none of them know nothing of eachother in beforehand and are at a distance of at 10 meters.
Sasori would summon the third before Hidan even got close, any summon could be done in less then 5 seconds by any shinobi, just because Sasori is taking his time making a speech when Chiyo and Sakura is passive doesnt mean he can't do it as quick as anyone else if he was in a hurry. To make this any interesting at all we would have to discuss if Hidan has any chance against ANY of Sasoris puppets.
And btw Sasori is impatient but he keeps his impatience in check when fighting serious opponents check out Sasori-Chiyo+Sakura, still I don't really know if he would consider Hidan a serious opponent.
This guy is in denial and seem to have a bad understanding of anything in the manga. Or more likely he is just trolling you.
As for the match up Sasori wins low dif. Assuming none of them know nothing of eachother in beforehand and are at a distance of at 10 meters.
Sasori would summon the third before Hidan even got close, any summon could be done in less then 5 seconds by any shinobi, just because Sasori is taking his time making a speech when Chiyo and Sakura is passive doesnt mean he can't do it as quick as anyone else if he was in a hurry. To make this any interesting at all we would have to discuss if Hidan has any chance against ANY of Sasoris puppets.
And btw Sasori is impatient but he keeps his impatience in check when fighting serious opponents check out Sasori-Chiyo+Sakura, still I don't really know if he would consider Hidan a serious opponent.
true this guy cant debate properly hes really ignorant about the manga.
still 5 seconds is more than enough for hidan to get close, look once he gets out of Hiruko consider that he needs to take some distance, take out the scroll, unroll it and then summon the 3rd kazekage,, considering hidan will be chasing him, he wont have time to summon it and it will be over for sasori.
It was explicitly stated in the datebook, whilst Kishi was describing his abilities. There'd be no reason for a lie.
The databook is now gone on this site. This has come up before though, the picture was used to end such debates.
You may deny the above, but the below statement still holds true.
Given that the puppet would spawn in front of Sasori, he'd be immediately protected by the Third Kazekage puppet.
Given that Hidan's main weapon is his scythe, it can be blocked. Afterwards, iron sand can be created to end the fight.
And now he's claiming the 3rd Kazekage isn't immune to metallic weapons! Are you kidding me.
I have yet to see any rebuttal to most of these points, like "why can't Sasori just grab Hidan with Chakra strings when the fight begins, and make Hidan his dancing bear?" I guess since Hidan is faster he can counter... oh wait.
It was explicitly stated in the datebook, whilst Kishi was describing his abilities. There'd be no reason for a lie.
The databook is now gone on this site. This has come up before though, the picture was used to end such debates.
You may deny the above, but the below statement still holds true.
Given that the puppet would spawn in front of Sasori, he'd be immediately protected by the Third Kazekage puppet.
Given that Hidan's main weapon is his scythe, it can be blocked. Afterwards, iron sand can be created to end the fight.
It only takes one hand to summon the puppet, the other hand can attach chakra threads to the scythe.
If Sasori can manipulate the bodies of people with them, redirecting the scythe shouldn't be that hard.
Your epiphany (found below) has absolutely no significance because he isn't going to try to get out of it.
During his fight with both Sakura and Chiyo, he remained inside Hiruko until it was eventually destroyed.
Also, the poison does in fact inhibit the body, beyond just pain. It's right here:
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Just look at Nitrous oxide (laughing gas), it numbs the body so that pain is minimized during operations and such.
Note, not saying that pain doesn't occur later. It's just not the immediate symptom.
It may not kill Hidan, but his reflexes and overall speed would certainly decrease significantly, leading to his loss.
Given the variety of means in which Hidan can be poisoned, he'd end up poisoned before Sasori's main body appears.
By chance he destroys Hiruko, which is perfectly fine, then he has to deal with Sasori summoning the Third Kazekage.
All he has to do is open the scroll and the puppet will spawn, not that difficult to accomplish, especially when numbed.
true this guy cant debate properly hes really ignorant about the manga.
still 5 seconds is more than enough for hidan to get close, look once he gets out of Hiruko consider that he needs to take some distance, take out the scroll, unroll it and then summon the 3rd kazekage,, considering hidan will be chasing him, he wont have time to summon it and it will be over for sasori.
No I was refering to you, not the other guy. No Hidan will not reach anyone within the time limit of a summon. Not unless he gets to start the fight allready in range. Also there is no reason for Sasori to get out of Hiruko before summoning. He can still summon another puppet and chose not to control it before he has released Hiruko. The fight would go something like this.
Sasori would start spamming ranged attacks on Hidan Hidan would be slowed down from dodging or if he chose to take the hit there would be slowed down by the sheer force of taking so many hits constantly.
Disclaimer: Even if he wasn't he still would not be able to penetrate Hiruko.
After this The third would be summoned from inside Hiruko. The Iron sand would form a sheild around Hiruko untill it was released. Now it would be gg and Hidan's head would be on the floor in a moment.
If Hidan would have any chance at all Sasori would need to do something stupid and reckless would be Hidan just smashing the Sasori puppet not realising he hasn't killed his Sasori's soul Sasori would still have a get out of jail free card.
Also it is just as likely that the curse wont work on Sasori as it is that the poison won't work on Hidan. We do know that his body wont stop living but it hasn't in anyways been stated that it can't be temporarily disabled with poisons. It is just as likely that the paralyzing effects would occur but his organs would survive the outcome as that he would be totally immune. Anything else is just speculation on your part and not proof.
One can also as I mentioned speculate if the curse would work on Sasori. If Hidan is hurt in the leg so is the cursed person, if Hidan is stabed in the head so is the cursed person. Sasori doesn't have a head nor a leg. he only has chakra in a tube. How would Hidan stab chakra in a tube on himself? Even if Sasori felt the same pain how would the stabing affect a bodypart he is missing. It is just as likely that Sasori wouldn't react at all to being stabed or that he would feel pain but not die.
No I was refering to you, not the other guy. No Hidan will not reach anyone within the time limit of a summon. Not unless he gets to start the fight allready in range. Also there is no reason for Sasori to get out of Hiruko before summoning. He can still summon another puppet and chose not to control it before he has released Hiruko. The fight would go something like this.
Sasori would start spamming ranged attacks on Hidan Hidan would be slowed down from dodging or if he chose to take the hit there would be slowed down by the sheer force of taking so many hits constantly.
Disclaimer: Even if he wasn't he still would not be able to penetrate Hiruko.
After this The third would be summoned from inside Hiruko. The Iron sand would form a sheild around Hiruko untill it was released. Now it would be gg and Hidan's head would be on the floor in a moment.
If Hidan would have any chance at all Sasori would need to do something stupid and reckless would be Hidan just smashing the Sasori puppet not realising he hasn't killed his Sasori's soul Sasori would still have a get out of jail free card.
Also it is just as likely that the curse wont work on Sasori as it is that the poison won't work on Hidan. We do know that his body wont stop living but it hasn't in anyways been stated that it can't be temporarily disabled with poisons. It is just as likely that the paralyzing effects would occur but his organs would survive the outcome as that he would be totally immune. Anything else is just speculation on your part and not proof.
One can also as I mentioned speculate if the curse would work on Sasori. If Hidan is hurt in the leg so is the cursed person, if Hidan is stabed in the head so is the cursed person. Sasori doesn't have a head nor a leg. he only has chakra in a tube. How would Hidan stab chakra in a tube on himself? Even if Sasori felt the same pain how would the stabing affect a bodypart he is missing. It is just as likely that Sasori wouldn't react at all to being stabed or that he would feel pain but not die.
no you were referring to the other kid else you wouldnt have quoted me, in any case you appear to be less informed than me about this manga since youre giving sasori feats he has never shown having.
sasori cant summon the 3rd kazekage from inside hiruko this is pure bs.
let me add one more thing, since sakura broke hiruko naturally sasori was already outside of hiruko when he escaped away.
if sasori decides to get out of hiruko by himself then he has to first open hiruko from the inside by taking off the shell thats located on the top of the puppet, doing so greatly increase the time of the whole process of summoning the 3rd.
now that ive remembered this, sasori stands absolutely no chance , hidan will catch him up easily.
the "tube" you were refering to is actually his heart, if hidan stabs himself in the heart then the same thing will happen to sasori, not very difficult to understand.
the poison part isnt speculation on my part, if you actually read the manga you would know how sasori poison works. unlike hanzo's poison it doesnt paralyze your muscles it simply consumes your vital organs slowly and the paralyzing effect that usually occur in the victim is because of the pain nothing else, hidan is invulnerable to pain even if his vital organs are infected it wouldnt stop him from living and he wouldnt care either since he can endure pain like its nothing.
It only takes one hand to summon the puppet, the other hand can attach chakra threads to the scythe.
If Sasori can manipulate the bodies of people with them, redirecting the scythe shouldn't be that hard.
Your epiphany (found below) has absolutely no significance because he isn't going to try to get out of it.
During his fight with both Sakura and Chiyo, he remained inside Hiruko until it was eventually destroyed.
Also, the poison does in fact inhibit the body, beyond just pain. It's right here:
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Just look at Nitrous oxide (laughing gas), it numbs the body so that pain is minimized during operations and such.
Note, not saying that pain doesn't occur later. It's just not the immediate symptom.
It may not kill Hidan, but his reflexes and overall speed would certainly decrease significantly, leading to his loss.
Given the variety of means in which Hidan can be poisoned, he'd end up poisoned before Sasori's main body appears.
By chance he destroys Hiruko, which is perfectly fine, then he has to deal with Sasori summoning the Third Kazekage.
All he has to do is open the scroll and the puppet will spawn, not that difficult to accomplish, especially when numbed.
He cant kill him while he is in hiruko so he will have to get out sooner or later and since he is impatient it wont take long, just because he stayed in it during his fight against sakura chiyo does it necessarely mean he is always going to stay in it against any opponent? You're not making any sense. He had no reason to get out of it back then since he was already handling this fight pretty well.
Sasori's poison isnt known to paralyze the body completely that is speculation, kankuro's body was going numb because the poison was contaminating his muscles and vital organs, it only affected him because he was mortal and such wounds actually disrupt a normal human body and prevent it from functioning properly, however it wouldnt affect hidan since he is immortal hence his body would remain unaffected and would still be working normally.
hidan just needs to wait until sasori gets out of hiruko and then kill by getting his blood and start the ritual
He cant kill him while he is in hiruko so he will have to get out sooner or later and since he is impatient it wont take long, just because he stayed in it during his fight against sakura chiyo does it necessarely mean he is always going to stay in it against any opponent? You're not making any sense. He had no reason to get out of it back then since he was already handling this fight pretty well.
Sasori's poison isnt known to paralyze the body completely that is speculation, kankuro's body was going numb because the poison was contaminating his muscles and vital organs, it only affected him because he was mortal and such wounds actually disrupt a normal human body and prevent it from functioning properly, however it wouldnt affect hidan since he is immortal hence his body would remain unaffected and would still be working normally.
hidan just needs to wait until sasori gets out of hiruko and then kill by getting his blood and start the ritual
Why exactly would he openly expose himself? You've got no proof that he'd do anything different in this fight.
Given that we're going off the previous battle Sasori was involved in, all your doing now is speculating.
he won't get out, Hiruko will simply be destroyed, just like before
Hidan lacks regeneration, therefore his cells will in fact begin to destroy themselves. Naturally, he will survive.
The whole point was that he would still be numb. That numbness would most certainly impair his overall reflexes.
if you can't feel your hand/arm, than you can't appropriately gauge how much you need to swing the scythe
Hidan's accuracy with his scythe will be compromised to some extent. Not overly much, just enough for Sasori to win.
Why exactly would he openly expose himself? You've got no proof that he'd do anything different in this fight.
Given that we're going off the previous battle Sasori was involved in, all your doing now is speculating.
he won't get out, Hiruko will simply be destroyed, just like before
Hidan lacks regeneration, therefore his cells will in fact begin to destroy themselves. Naturally, he will survive.
The whole point was that he would still be numb. That numbness would most certainly impair his overall reflexes.
if you can't feel your hand/arm, than you can't appropriately gauge how much you need to swing the scythe
Hidan's accuracy with his scythe will be compromised to some extent. Not overly much, just enough for Sasori to win.
Lmao and how is Hiruko going to be destroyed? You don't know.
Hidan stabbed himself in the leg and could move perfectly well after muscle wounds don't affect him, understand that. and there will be no numbness i've already explained why in my previous post.
Lmao and how is Hiruko going to be destroyed? You don't know.
Hidan stabbed himself in the leg and could move perfectly well after muscle wounds don't affect him, understand that. and there will be no numbness i've already explained why in my previous post.
Hiruko has a defense that cant be destroyed with just a scythe, you must be out of your mind to think this.
the poison doesnt affect his nervous system now youre just puling things out of your ass nice, it only affects the muscle and the vital organs, period.
Then how exactly is Hidan going to win? If he can't get through that puppet than you've got nothing.
As for vital organs, can you list all of the affected organs? Last I checked, the brain is in fact an organ.
