Hidan vs Sasori

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

Sasoei has no blood so hidan's technique's are futile

Sasori slices him into bits - Hidan unable to do sh!t

 

[Obito3631]

I'll ignore everything you just said, and say this, even though it was you who brought it up... my goodness.

Why're you dodging my question? I specifically asked you, what's Hidan going to do, when he loses his only weapon? Hidan won't get the chance to stab or kill Sasori, if his only weapon is taken away from him due to the Iron sand. My lord, don't you get it?

How will Sasori kill Hidan? Once he takes away his weapon, with Iron sand, he can use 100 puppets. If you hadn't noticed, almost, if not ALL of Sasori's 100 puppets wield cutting material, whether it be a sword or whatever. They can cut him up, and that's Hidan gone. He can't reattach himself, he needed Kakuzu for that, but there's no Kakuzu this time to help him.

Don't dodge my question, how is he countering Iron sand? And how is he keeping his weapon?

I was the one who brought it up? You can't even remember your owns words.. poor kid.

He simply won't have time to, do you really think he's going to let Sasori summon his puppet and generate Iron sand so he gets beat up?

Even Kakashi had a hard time keeping up with Hidan in a taijutsu fight he couldn't escape from him and considering how faster and more agile he is compared to Sasori he's not going to let him do anything.

I've already answered your question, he has a counter for all his jutsus.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I was the one who brought it up? You can't even remember your owns words.. poor kid.

He simply won't have time to, do you really think he's going to let Sasori summon his puppet and generate Iron sand so he gets beat up?

Even Kakashi had a hard time keeping up with Hidan in a taijutsu fight he couldn't escape from him and considering how faster and more agile he is compared to Sasori he's not going to let him do anything.

I've already answered your question, he has a counter for all his jutsus.

Hidan has a 3 in speed in the databook

Sasori has 4.5 in speed in the databook

Who can't have time to do what? LOL. Your counters are wrong and shit, please stop embarrassing yourself.

Next.

 

[Obito3631]

Hidan has a 3 in speed in the databook

Sasori has 4.5 in speed in the databook

Who can't have time to do what? LOL. Your counters are wrong and shit, please stop embarrassing yourself.

Next.

3? Goodness, not only you're retarded but you're biased as hell.
No he has 3.5 and has been proven to be faster and better at taijutsu than Asuma who has 4.5

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

If you say I haven't brought up a single point then you're simply proving you haven't read the thread, now let the smart ones discuss will you

smart ones ?? oh god ..... you are right let the smart ones discuss it (your not one of them), were laughing our asses off when we read your posts (ya me and the people you THINK you're DEBATING with) again like i said, you haven't addressed a single point given to you with something valid. your lucky, at least they find you entertaining (thinking you got this right) ..... what a joke .....

 

[Scooby Doo]

Sasori obviously...He doesn't even have blood so Hidan's only worthy justu is useless...

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

3? Goodness, not only you're retarded but you're biased as hell.
No he has 3.5 and has been proven to be faster and better at taijutsu than Asuma who has 4.5

Okay, he's 0.5 faster, my mistake. My point still stands though, Sasori is faster, meaning he can execute his jutsu before your little Hidan can do shit!

Chiyo is a 4 in speed, yet she couldn't counter Iron sand, what's your point? Why're you bringing in other characters, when we're debating Hidan and Sasori? Lol, I'm using Kishimoto's facts, you can't disprove it.

Sasori is faster, said by Kishimoto himself. You can't prove this wrong, Sasori will use Iron sand, take his Scythe, and destroy Hidan XD

Who's insulting now? Hypocritical are we?

 

[Obito3631]

smart ones ?? oh god ..... you are right let the smart ones discuss it (your not one of them), were laughing our asses off when we read your posts (ya me and the people you THINK you're DEBATING with) again like i said, you haven't addressed a single point given to you with something valid. your lucky, at least they find you entertaining (thinking you got this right) ..... what a joke .....

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Please stop your stupidity is too much for me to handle

 

[Obito3631]

Okay, he's 0.5 faster, my mistake. My point still stands though, Sasori is faster, meaning he can execute his jutsu before your little Hidan can do shit!

Chiyo is a 4 in speed, yet she couldn't counter Iron sand, what's your point? Why're you bringing in other characters, when we're debating Hidan and Sasori? Lol, I'm using Kishimoto's facts, you can't disprove it.

Sasori is faster, said by Kishimoto himself. You can't prove this wrong, Sasori will use Iron sand, take his Scythe, and destroy Hidan XD

Who's insulting now? Hypocritical are we?

The manga proved that your point is invalid.

Kakashi who has 4.5 in speed and taijutsu could barely keep up with Hidan in a taijutsu fight, unless you can prove sasori can keep up in a taijutsu fight against hidan then your point remains invalid.

The databook stats are unreliable in these debates. even if Hidan has lower stat he can still own ennemies with higher stats which has been proven twice.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

The manga proved that your point is invalid.

Kakashi who has 4.5 in speed and taijutsu could barely keep up with Hidan in a taijutsu fight, unless you can prove sasori can keep up in a taijutsu fight against hidan then your point remains invalid.

The databook stats are unreliable in these debates. even if Hidan has lower stat he can still own ennemies with higher stats which has been proven twice.

You're mistaking speed with Taijutsu... he never outsped Kakashi, or anyone. All he did was overwhelm them in Taijutsu... surely you know the difference? My point is, Sasori can execute his Iron sand quicker than you think. Plus, Hiruko has an Iron tail, coated in poison, which has length which far succeeds Hidan's scythe. He can easily fend him off, and perform Iron sand. He isn't Mifune, he can't stop shit.

Also, I hope you know summoning the 3rd Kazekage takes absolutely no handseals or prep time, he just summons him through a scroll. Once the third is out, Iron sand is there already, no prep time needed. Hidan won't be able to stop shit.

 

[Obito3631]

You're mistaking speed with Taijutsu... he never outsped Kakashi, or anyone. All he did was overwhelm them in Taijutsu... surely you know the difference? My point is, Sasori can execute his Iron sand quicker than you think. Plus, Hiruko has an Iron tail, coated in poison, which has length which far succeeds Hidan's scythe. He can easily fend him off, and perform Iron sand. He isn't Mifune, he can't stop shit.

Also, I hope you know summoning the 3rd Kazekage takes absolutely no handseals or prep time, he just summons him through a scroll. Once the third is out, Iron sand is there already, no prep time needed. Hidan won't be able to stop shit.

Speed is implied as well. Kakashi was trying to escape while he was exchanging blows with Hidan and normally his sharingan makes it so he can read movements and find an opening to escape or counter attack, Sasori doesn't have the sharingan nor has been proven to have any reflexes comparable to those of Kakashi. Kakashi had to make a bunshin in order to escape his taijutsu fight against Hidan.

It also depends on the starting distance, also if Sasori starts off in Hiruko he won't be able to ever pull out the 3rd kazekage puppet against Hidan.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Speed is implied as well. Kakashi was trying to escape while he was exchanging blows with Hidan and normally his sharingan makes it so he can read movements and find an opening to escape or counter attack, Sasori doesn't have the sharingan nor has been proven to have any reflexes comparable to those of Kakashi. Kakashi had to make a bunshin in order to escape his taijutsu fight against Hidan.

It also depends on the starting distance, also if Sasori starts off in Hiruko he won't be able to ever pull out the 3rd kazekage puppet against Hidan.

It's hard to escape someone when they're swinging a scythe everywhere... Sasori is faster than Hidan, that's all you need to know. Sasori doesn't have the reflexes, but he sure as shit has the defence. IF Hiruko is broken, Sasori can just summon him from his scroll. You seem so confident that Hidan won't allow Sasori to summon the third Kazekage to use Iron sand, when it takes absolutely zero prep time, what's wrong with you man? If he were so good at countering others' ninjutsu, why did he get caught by Shikamaru's shadow possession technique on more than 1 occasion? Why was Kakashi able to perform jutsu? He got tricked, I don't care. Hidan is dumb, that's why.

Given Hidan can even break Hiruko, what's needed is a blunt, strong and physical attack, something Hidan doesn't have.

 

[Obito3631]

It's hard to escape someone when they're swinging a scythe everywhere... Sasori is faster than Hidan, that's all you need to know. Sasori doesn't have the reflexes, but he sure as shit has the defence. IF Hiruko is broken, Sasori can just summon him from his scroll. You seem so confident that Hidan won't allow Sasori to summon the third Kazekage to use Iron sand, when it takes absolutely zero prep time, what's wrong with you man? If he were so good at countering others' ninjutsu, why did he get caught by Shikamaru's shadow possession technique on more than 1 occasion? Why was Kakashi able to perform jutsu? He got tricked, I don't care. Hidan is dumb, that's why.

Given Hidan can even break Hiruko, what's needed is a blunt, strong and physical attack, something Hidan doesn't have.

Did you even read the manga? Even when Hidan wasn't attacking, Kakashi couldn't get away from him.

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If Kakashi was that much faster than Hidan then he would have been able to escape from him yet he couldn't.
If Kakashi who has the sharingan and the ability to predict movements couldn't even find a way to get away from Hidan then Sasori has no hope.

Tell me how is Hiruko going to kill him, as far as I know he has nothing that could even harm him and he will eventually run out of projectiles his only way to defeat Hidan is by pulling out the 3rd Kazekage puppet but Hidan won't let him do it.

Also, Shikamaru didn't trap him in his shadow by himself, Hidan was fighting Asuma at the same time which makes it very difficult to dodge so that argument is invalid.

Kakashiw as only able to make a shadow clone due to his sharingan by finding an opening, does Sasori have good reflexes or the sharingan? I don't think so.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Did you even read the manga? Even when Hidan wasn't attacking, Kakashi couldn't get away from him.

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If Kakashi was that much faster than Hidan then he would have been able to escape from him yet he couldn't.
If Kakashi who has the sharingan and the ability to predict movements couldn't even find a way to get away from Hidan then Sasori has no hope.

Tell me how is Hiruko going to kill him, as far as I know he has nothing that could even harm him and he will eventually run out of projectiles his only way to defeat Hidan is by pulling out the 3rd Kazekage puppet but Hidan won't let him do it.

Also, Shikamaru didn't trap him in his shadow by himself, Hidan was fighting Asuma at the same time which makes it very difficult to dodge so that argument is invalid.

Kakashiw as only able to make a shadow clone due to his sharingan by finding an opening, does Sasori have good reflexes or the sharingan? I don't think so.

why are we talking about speed when sasori has no blood for hidan to draw?

iron sand, 100 puppets (if we wanna go into speed feats, he cannot counter all 100) and poison

 

[Obito3631]

why are we talking about speed when sasori has no blood for hidan to draw?

iron sand, 100 puppets (if we wanna go into speed feats, he cannot counter all 100) and poison

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[TheTailedSage]

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Ok then, his core, what are the chances that he gets close enough to sasori to cut the core? keeping in mind sasori is a mid ranged fighter which controls puppets himself, he isnt guna let hidan near him, worst case scenario he brings out 100 puppets and the poison. what counter has he got for them exactly?

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Did you even read the manga? Even when Hidan wasn't attacking, Kakashi couldn't get away from him.

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If Kakashi was that much faster than Hidan then he would have been able to escape from him yet he couldn't.
If Kakashi who has the sharingan and the ability to predict movements couldn't even find a way to get away from Hidan then Sasori has no hope.

Tell me how is Hiruko going to kill him, as far as I know he has nothing that could even harm him and he will eventually run out of projectiles his only way to defeat Hidan is by pulling out the 3rd Kazekage puppet but Hidan won't let him do it.

Also, Shikamaru didn't trap him in his shadow by himself, Hidan was fighting Asuma at the same time which makes it very difficult to dodge so that argument is invalid.

Kakashiw as only able to make a shadow clone due to his sharingan by finding an opening, does Sasori have good reflexes or the sharingan? I don't think so.

That scan is showing them jumping in the air and exchanging blows... the heck are you on about?

Hiruko can cut Hidan, and leave him in agony. Hidan is immortal, but he still has cells, and he can't recreate the cells which'll get damaged by the poison. While he wouldn't die, he'd be in agonizing pain.

Shikamaru did get him again when Kakuzu was fighting the others, and then he led him to the forest.

Again, Sasori doesn't need good reflexes when Hidan can't even destroy Hiruko, as Hidan doesn't even have any physical and blunt attacks... do you not get this?

All you're doing is claiming he "wouldn't let him", but with what proof? Even if Hiruko gets broken, which it wouldn't, he can summon the third Kazekage in the next 5 seconds, and Hidan has no knowledge of his heart, so I don't know where you keep getting that idea from. Sasori WILL take away his scythe with the iron sand.

Once again, Hidan is slower than Sasori, and Sasori, being a long range fighter, won't engage in a taijutsu fight with Hidan. He can easily summon the third Kazekage and the Iron sand.

What do you suggest he do with 100 puppets? He can't dodge all of them. He has no dodging feats, and the only reason Sakura was able to dodge most of them was because Chiyo was controlling her, and she still got scratched. Hidan hasn't shown the evasive skills to par this, sorry. They'd just cut him up and leave him incapacitated.

 

[Obito3631]

Ok then, his core, what are the chances that he gets close enough to sasori to cut the core? keeping in mind sasori is a mid ranged fighter which controls puppets himself, he isnt guna let hidan near him, worst case scenario he brings out 100 puppets and the poison. what counter has he got for them exactly?

And Hidan isn't gonna let him go away, you said Sasori didn't have blood and I've just proved you wrong.
And I'm asking you how is Sasori even with his 100 puppets going to defeat an immortal man? He can hit him as many times as he wants in the end Hidan can't be killed, And that's IF Sasori ever gets to summon them

 

[TheTailedSage]

And Hidan isn't gonna let him go away, you said Sasori didn't have blood and I've just proved you wrong.
And I'm asking you how is Sasori even with his 100 puppets going to defeat an immortal man? He can hit him as many times as he wants in the end Hidan can't be killed, And that's IF Sasori ever gets to summon them

You proved me wrong to an extent, yes he can bleed and you proved me wrong but for god sake what are the odds of him getting close to sasori. what happenes when sasori impales hidan with the iron sand and immobilises him, what then? he can cut his head off basically making hidan useless or he could poison him and make him die slowly.

now we know hidan can be peirced and since its just that he cant die by getting peirced, we dont know what happenes if hes poisoned, he may suffer aggony since hidan can still experience pain. cutting off hidans head and immobilising him. all he has to do is use the crow to slice him into pieces and its over

 

[Obito3631]

You proved me wrong to an extent, yes he can bleed and you proved me wrong but for god sake what are the odds of him getting close to sasori. what happenes when sasori impales hidan with the iron sand and immobilises him, what then? he can cut his head off basically making hidan useless or he could poison him and make him die slowly.

now we know hidan can be peirced and since its just that he cant die by getting peirced, we dont know what happenes if hes poisoned, he may suffer aggony since hidan can still experience pain. cutting off hidans head and immobilising him. all he has to do is use the crow to slice him into pieces and its over

Why would he let himself get hit by such a technique? He's agile and can easily evade what he's getting thrown at. Again, that's only IF he lets Sasori summon the 3rd kazekage puppet and do iron sand. Tell me how will Sasori make use of the 3rd kazekage puppet when Hidan is swinging his scythe at him? I'm really curious to know.

I've already proved the poison cannot affect Hidan, it will slowly consumes his vital organs but since Hidan doesn't need vital organs to live it's useless. Basically Sasori can't do anything while Hidan is engaging him on close combat. Once he gets his blood Sasori will be at his mercy any attacks he throws at him will be redirected at himself instead and then Hidan will stab Sasori's heart.