Hidan is underrated and Tier 1
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immortal =/= endlessly stamina
Chiyo&Sakurapuppet vs Sasori was good example of how ninja should fight. Their attack was on much higher scale of reaching the target for a single scratch than a simple scythe.
Intel or not intel, the very basic rule is to avoid every single attack.
Ok bro and what does finding this perfect scenario relate to hidan? Without intel and a legit battle hidan takes out most people and thats a fact. You can't tell me Hidan won't land a hit on most ninja
Lmao its called being caught by surprise if even for a split second it's not everyday you fight someone immortal. Not asking to even recieve a death blow, literally a combination of surprise and a scratch, which even if the opponent manages to dodge for the most part a delay in reaction can cause a scratch. Basic logic.
Btw hidan has a 5 in stamina and has never been seen ever close to reaching his limit, we don't know his stamina limit, it could be a bottomless pitt.
Bad Touch Yakushi
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Read my post and you'll see I say he gets the jump on many ninja in a surprise scenario. But there are also just too many counters to him in the range of jutsu.
I love Hidan but he's literally like this bc his editors made Kishi hurry up the arc.
Well if you dont know for sure then you are just asume that way but that wont prove anything. Once his head cut off easily, there is nothin he can really do :lol
Asuma is great but he is no where near high level ninja, still able to cut down Hidan head.
Chiyo or any puppet master can easily put down Hidan without ever getting touch
Shino can just eat Hidan alive with his bug
Choji with butterfly mode can send Hidan to the next country
Neji can shut down Hidan chakra and nothin he can do w/o chakra
Lee is just too fast and easily rip off Hidan weapon
Ino can just mind jutsu him and let him bury himself
Your basic logic is kinda hillarious :lol
Hidan fought like an edo tensei but that was with help from Kakuzu, without any proper combo he is not that great tbh. He only swing his scythe and that is the best he can do for now. :lol
Once his head is cut off lmfao? Once anyones head is cut off they can't do anything. Wtf type of logic is this?
Yea with shadow binding Hidan down lmfao, are you this dense?
Lmao is Hidan going to be standing there still while these guys expirement on his body lol? This guy has CQC skill on par with Kakashi. Picking on mindless clones is cool and all but I'm pretty sure he'll be fine against Shino, who doesn't have any relevant feats against any notable character.
Haha and in that next country Hidan draws his ritual circle and Choji, dies. You think size matters with Hidan? Blunt damage is nothing to him, the bigger the target the easier for him to draw blood. Literally no chance Choji survives an encounter with Hidan.
Lmfaooo Hidan literally stabs himself for a living, you think internal damage is doing anything to this man? Neji gets bodied, he has nothing in his arsenal that can even hope to put Hidan down?
Hidan jerks off to Neji's arsenal.
Nope Lee has zero moves in his arsenal that can dismember Hidan, kicks and punches aren't doing squat. As soon as he gets tired from using gates, Hidan kills him.
Close to a zero percent chance Lee beats Hidan.
Lmfao stop, she gets blitzed.
This post was laughable.
Hidan had back up from kakuzu when he did that, the second he was alone Shikamaru buried him alive, Hidan isn't beating anybody relevant in a one on one and when he gets disarmed he is fodder, lots of ppl can immobilize and dismember him and it is manga fact that his attacks are the slowest in the akatsuki.
And? Even assuming Kakuzu did something to help him defeat the bijuu, literally only Kage level and up can take a Bijuu down even with Kakuzu's help.
It was clearly implied he did a lot of the work if not all of the work. He's the one whowas doing his ritual, he's the one who had scratch marks and dirt on him. Kakuzu literally did not have so much as a piece of dirt on him.
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Also Hidan was only talking about his attack speed when he uses his ranged scythe attacks via rope. Nothing implies his overall attack speed is slowest, and even if it were that doesn't mean much because his attack speed was enough to be on par with Kakashi's own.
And no shit lots of people can immobilize and dismember him, he's not some tier 1 Hashirama level fighter. No one's arguing Hidan is some high kage level, make some sense.
Get real, one one one anybody who can utilize raiton covered weapons makes hidan their baby mama, he's garbage tier in a one on one, kakashi had to conserve chakra when fighting him because he knew Kakuzu was the real threat, Hidan is weak sauce by himself.
Bad Touch Yakushi
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I'm a huge Hidan fan (possibly the biggest i've seen on here???) and I completely agree. In a duo with a good partner he's a huge threat to most unsuspecting nin but there's too many ways to make yourself instantly capable of dismantling him. Of course you're in trouble if you don't know to light up a kunai or take to the sky/shield but still.
Agreed, hidan was only tier 1 with kakuzu and admitted to kakashi that no one ever beat their COMBO attacks, Shikamaru blowing him to bits is enough to know that anybody with decent taijutsu and some explosive tags can eat hidan alive.
Lmfao conserving chakra means he doesn't use high end ninjutsu like raikiri, it doesn't mean he has to fight on par in CQC with an immortal risking getting his blood taken by staying close. Again nonsense.
Also I laugh at the notion that anybody who can utilize raiton weapons own him when Asuma himself could utilize wind style sharpened blades.
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Sharper than 99% of other blade users. How'd that end up for him?
We know that kbee sliced through one of the most legendary swords in existence with raiton chakra, and you're only using asuma as an example when his death was key to plot progression, what we do know is he technically beat Hidan who had to get his head sown back on by kakuz, somebody who hidan is next to useless without. as evidenced by the fact that shikamaru beat him in a 1 on 1 the second he got him alone.
After saying all of this you still can not prove what Hidan can do, you just made up a super man version where he can do anything, he is invincible....
Dont you know that he can only swing his scythe for a single blood while his feat are nothin more than that ?
You tried to counter my point of Shino with cqc on Kakashi level
what does cqc has anything to do with Shino ? :lolShino just put those bugs on Hidan very easily, lets not forget that he has feat to put bugs on puppet master string, scythe are just way too big and much easier. Also there is nothin Hidan can do to Shino, he doesnt even have dojutsu or sensing skill to know where is the real one, even Obito failed to harm Shino, what makes you think Hidan has anything to do any dmg at all...... NOTHIN
I think you are then dense one here. All we know that Hidan can only use his weapon and the ritual. Choji just simple expand his body and grab Hidan, take off his weapon and immobilize Hidan. What kind of strength does Hidan posses that he can resist from it ? None. So stop with your fanfic, there is 0 ability other than team up with Kakuzu, so 1 can do the actual dmg and battle combat while other one do the ritual.
You keep saying he can blitz Ino, the one who has skill to take over the whole alliance communication and ten tailed. Hidan attack are so simple, he charge at the target and Ino just need to mind rape him. She only needs to make him throw away his weapons, and let him bury himself and nothin else can he do.
About Lee, yea his superman kick and punch can only break rock and earth, he can not break Hidan face :lol
lmfao please stop.
Asuma had Shikamaru to back him up and he still couldn't even land one blow on Hidan. Hidan was styling on him.
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So much for your 1v1 scheme, when Shikamaru and Asuma ganging up on Hidan still couldn't do anything until he let his guard down. Hidan had to worry about fighting Asuma and landing his blow simultaneously dodging shadow possession, and he managed to do so without even receiving a scratch from Asuma in mere moments.
Asuma made Kisame look bad in CQC
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The same Kisame who bodied a base Gai in CQC.
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And this all lines up perfectly because later we see Kakashi was even matched by a Hidan not at full power (no rope attached to his scythe his preferred fighting style).
@AZNkidd
Lmfao garbage post. Until you can tell me how those guys can put him down, don't reply to me with trash like this.
Funny post seeing as kishi doesn't give a shit about consistency as much as he does theatrics, he forgot to give boruto and his sis byakugan so all those scans mean jack shit as it was all for plot progression. Either way we know kakashi didn't want to spam any ninjutsu as he knew kakuzu was the bigger threat and shikamaru made him fodder the instant he drooped his scythe, this means anybody with any immobilizing or overbearing tech such as lava release or water dragon bullet beats hidan in a 1 on 1.
Lmfaooo can you seriously stop posting then? If you can't prove your stance then don't say anything at all.
In fact your own argument about inconcistency can be used against your point of shikamaru getting the best of him (even though that was pre planned, prepped, and a surprise attack).
And you dare to bring up plot helping Hidan? Lmfao an akatsuki member did you really bring up plot? Akatsuki get ****ed over every chance they get because of plot, look at how Kakuzu died, that is one of the biggest asspulls to date.
Anyone could've died to that because it's easy to think of Naruto as a retard, ppl just downplay his genius in that moment, and once again, half of the threat from Hidan lies in worrying about kakuzu, without him hidan is garbage tier and is easily removed from combat with quick hands and some explosive tags.
Every post you make is a whole lot of opinions with no backing. Hidan pressuring Kakashi in a CQC, means Hidan is simply that good at CQC.
If Kakashi was significantly better in that department he would have brushed Hidan aside or even disarmed him and dealt with Kakuzu.
There were instances where Kakuzu was completely not involved.
It was a straight 1v1 with Kakashi and Hidan in this scenario.
Kakuzu starts
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initially , when he fires off a zukkoku. Kakashi dodges just like ino shika cho. Hidan who was initially beside Kakuzu
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Kakashi in the air (shows how fast he closed the distance). They
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. Kakashi even switches to offense. They
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each others shunsin and attack speed. With
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of the other. Kakuzu and his masks literally didn't take a step the whole time.
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. Mind you this was all without Hidan's scythe rope which is his main source of combat.
So yes in CQC Hidan is easily on par with Kakashi.
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