Hidan is stronger than Tsunade

Gooner4life · Aug 18, 2012

Thane said:
I think people take Madara's statement way too seriously.

"She's slower than the raikage...but stronger!"

She's slower than one of the quickest ninja alive...Oh noes...She must really be SLUGGISH!

*ZING!*

Exactly, 99.9% of the Narutoverse is slower than A xd

Bogard · Aug 18, 2012

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I doubt she let him do the ritual

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Good point but that's when she has knowledge about Hidan, which won't be necessarly the case here

And even if she breaks one circle, Hidan can create another, simple:noc:

Icelerate · Aug 18, 2012

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Asuma is shit, thought that was general knowledge :/

But he isn't. Your point is invalid because you come up with absurd assumptions without any backing.

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Asuma is faster than Tsunade and even him got dominated by Hidan in close-mid range fight. I think you underrate clearly Hidans fighting style here. And yes, Tsunade could regenerate but she regenerate cells only by creating new ones, but if her heart or her head are destroyed, she can't have another heart or head, right?

Asuma may be very slightly faster than Tsunade but don't think their gap in speed is much. She got a lower speed stat than Asuma because in general when Kishi wrote the data book, he meant to compare Tsunade with other kage level ninjas and he meant to compare Asuma with other jounin level ninjas so getting data book numbers isn't going to prove your point. Tsunade was able to hit Orochimaru and Madara why exactly can't she hit Hidan?

I do think Hidan is underrated but Tsunade is a bad match up for him. I think Hidan can beat Darui though. Also if Tsunade did not even come close to dying against this:

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What makes you think the ritual is going to kill her so easily?

Tazzilla88 · Aug 19, 2012

Explain to me again how Hidan is stronger than Tsunade.
Tsunade's Prowess

She utilizes involuntary reflexes:

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She is very aware of her surroundings:

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She has extreme strength:

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She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly.She's out planned Shikaku

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and has shown that at times she strategizes better than Shikaku

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Apparently she messed up Kabuto's nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.

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She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.

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She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.

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She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.

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She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.

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She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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She healed the other kages in order to heighten their chances for sucess This was a great a move. Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.

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I know you may try to use this as a counter-argumentBut all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.

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This was also intelligent

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As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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but she used the attack as a distraction
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And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.

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Huge Chakra Reserves:I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100%, gave them more chakra, attacked Madara, and regenerate from 3 Susanoo swords and 3 Yasaka Magatamas, Donated even more chakra to Oonoki for his large scale Jinton, And Tanked and Regenerated from Madara's Katon which was meant for all 5 kages when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan.
She has Precise Chakra Control:Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
She can use Body Pathway Derangement:This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.

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She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:

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She is capable of blitzing:

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She can knock people out without using her strength:If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards

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She is not slow:

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Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)

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Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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And when Mei couldn't respond to Madara's Katon in enough time Tsunade was reflexes and speed was great enogh to intercept the attack

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She is incredibly durable:Sword of Kusanagi

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Susanoo Swords

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Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

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Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)

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(it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)

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This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken

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This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

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This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal

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What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.

Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.

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Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.

And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene

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before ... being blitzed.

So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)

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she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
Madara's Katon

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Katsuyu- I think Katsuyu is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyus spitting acid.

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Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuyu a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuyu can crush people. Given the crushing power of this mini katsuyu it only stands to reason the a full sized katsuyu would be much more deadly.

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We also know that Katsuyu can completely envelop people

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And Tsunade can seeming sense what Katsuyu sees

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Katsuyu can transfer information over multiple battlefields at once

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Logically a mini katsuyu like this one could stay with Tsunade and insert chakra into her to wake her from genjutsu

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Katsuyu cannot be harmed cutting or stabbing and as we've seen her withstand Shinra Tensei FP and Chibaku Tensei it is safe to assume she can withstand being crushed.

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General Medical Ninjutsu- self-healing techniques only paralleled by Hashirama, but and in general medical jutsu she is unmatched. Which is why Lee is a shinobi today. Why Oro came to her, when he already had Kabuto, why she was able to heal an entire village at once, and why she was able to quickly and near effortlessly undue the damage done to Kakashi and Sasuke by Itachi's Tsukyomi.

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Which leads me to believe that Genjutsu won't be very effective on her as she firstly has such excellent chakra control as mentioned above so if she stops her chakra flow the genjutsu is ended in addition to knowledge of how it works, how it affects the brain, and how to treat it.

ShippudenRules · Aug 19, 2012

Tazzilla88 said:
Explain to me again how Hidan is stronger than Tsunade.
Tsunade's Prowess

She utilizes involuntary reflexes:

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She hits pressure points:

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She uses shockwaves:

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She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:

She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style
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She is very aware of her surroundings:

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She has extreme strength:

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She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly.She's out planned Shikaku

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and has shown that at times she strategizes better than Shikaku

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Apparently she messed up Kabuto's nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.

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She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.

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She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.

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She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.

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She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.

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She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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She healed the other kages in order to heighten their chances for sucess This was a great a move. Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.

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I know you may try to use this as a counter-argumentBut all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.

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This was also intelligent

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As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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but she used the attack as a distraction
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And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.

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Huge Chakra Reserves:I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100%, gave them more chakra, attacked Madara, and regenerate from 3 Susanoo swords and 3 Yasaka Magatamas, Donated even more chakra to Oonoki for his large scale Jinton, And Tanked and Regenerated from Madara's Katon which was meant for all 5 kages when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan.

She has Precise Chakra Control:Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)

She can use Body Pathway Derangement:This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.

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She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:

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She is capable of blitzing:

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She can knock people out without using her strength:If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards

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She is not slow:

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Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)

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Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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And when Mei couldn't respond to Madara's Katon in enough time Tsunade was reflexes and speed was great enogh to intercept the attack

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She is incredibly durable:Sword of Kusanagi

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Susanoo Swords

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Three Yasaka Magatamas

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Shinra Tensei Fully Powered

Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

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Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)

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(it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)

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This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken

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This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

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This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal

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What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.

Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.

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Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.

And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene

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before ... being blitzed.

So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)

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she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

Madara's Katon

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Katsuyu- I think Katsuyu is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyus spitting acid.

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Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuyu a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuyu can crush people. Given the crushing power of this mini katsuyu it only stands to reason the a full sized katsuyu would be much more deadly.

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We also know that Katsuyu can completely envelop people

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And Tsunade can seeming sense what Katsuyu sees

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Katsuyu can transfer information over multiple battlefields at once

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Logically a mini katsuyu like this one could stay with Tsunade and insert chakra into her to wake her from genjutsu

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Katsuyu cannot be harmed cutting or stabbing and as we've seen her withstand Shinra Tensei FP and Chibaku Tensei it is safe to assume she can withstand being crushed.

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General Medical Ninjutsu- self-healing techniques only paralleled by Hashirama, but and in general medical jutsu she is unmatched. Which is why Lee is a shinobi today. Why Oro came to her, when he already had Kabuto, why she was able to heal an entire village at once, and why she was able to quickly and near effortlessly undue the damage done to Kakashi and Sasuke by Itachi's Tsukyomi.

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Which leads me to believe that Genjutsu won't be very effective on her as she firstly has such excellent chakra control as mentioned above so if she stops her chakra flow the genjutsu is ended in addition to knowledge of how it works, how it affects the brain, and how to treat it.

This end this thread lol. Tsunade is superior to Hidan and it's not even close. After all, he is one of the weakest Akatsuki member.

Tsunade is a beast and people continue to underrate her. Hidan might be immortal but if is head is cut, he can't move anymore. Also, Tsunade can destroy/change is body and Hidan cannot regenerate.

Tsunade wins this easy-mid difficulty max.

zesto · Aug 19, 2012

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Since when was Asuma shit? He is an elite jounin and is pretty strong but yeah Tsunade would destroy Hidan with low difficulty. That ritual will not kill Tsunade because she can just regenerate from damage. Hidan's scythe will be destroyed by Tsunade and his nerves will be injected with lightning chakra which means Hidan won't be able to do anything.

Tsunade has pretty good speed and can dodge Hidan without too much of a hassle. Face it, Hidan would have a better chance fighting someone else but Tsunade utterly destroys him. Also Tsunade can destroy the ritual thing with her strength.

THIS^

Bogard · Aug 19, 2012

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Explain to me again how Hidan is stronger than Tsunade.
Tsunade's Prowess

She utilizes involuntary reflexes:

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She hits pressure points:

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She uses shockwaves:

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She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:

She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style
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She is very aware of her surroundings:

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She has extreme strength:

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She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly.She's out planned Shikaku

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and has shown that at times she strategizes better than Shikaku

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Apparently she messed up Kabuto's nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.

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She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.

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She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.

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She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.

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She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.

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She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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She healed the other kages in order to heighten their chances for sucess This was a great a move. Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.

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I know you may try to use this as a counter-argumentBut all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.

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This was also intelligent

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As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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but she used the attack as a distraction
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And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.

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Huge Chakra Reserves:I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100%, gave them more chakra, attacked Madara, and regenerate from 3 Susanoo swords and 3 Yasaka Magatamas, Donated even more chakra to Oonoki for his large scale Jinton, And Tanked and Regenerated from Madara's Katon which was meant for all 5 kages when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan.

She has Precise Chakra Control:Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)

She can use Body Pathway Derangement:This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.

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She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:

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She is capable of blitzing:

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She can knock people out without using her strength:If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards

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She is not slow:

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Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)

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Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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And when Mei couldn't respond to Madara's Katon in enough time Tsunade was reflexes and speed was great enogh to intercept the attack

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She is incredibly durable:Sword of Kusanagi

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Susanoo Swords

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Three Yasaka Magatamas

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Shinra Tensei Fully Powered

Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

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Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)

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(it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)

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This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken

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This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

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This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal

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What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.

Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.

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Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.

And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene

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before ... being blitzed.

So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)

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she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

Madara's Katon

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Katsuyu- I think Katsuyu is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyus spitting acid.

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Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuyu a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuyu can crush people. Given the crushing power of this mini katsuyu it only stands to reason the a full sized katsuyu would be much more deadly.

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We also know that Katsuyu can completely envelop people

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And Tsunade can seeming sense what Katsuyu sees

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Katsuyu can transfer information over multiple battlefields at once

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Logically a mini katsuyu like this one could stay with Tsunade and insert chakra into her to wake her from genjutsu

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Katsuyu cannot be harmed cutting or stabbing and as we've seen her withstand Shinra Tensei FP and Chibaku Tensei it is safe to assume she can withstand being crushed.

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General Medical Ninjutsu- self-healing techniques only paralleled by Hashirama, but and in general medical jutsu she is unmatched. Which is why Lee is a shinobi today. Why Oro came to her, when he already had Kabuto, why she was able to heal an entire village at once, and why she was able to quickly and near effortlessly undue the damage done to Kakashi and Sasuke by Itachi's Tsukyomi.

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Which leads me to believe that Genjutsu won't be very effective on her as she firstly has such excellent chakra control as mentioned above so if she stops her chakra flow the genjutsu is ended in addition to knowledge of how it works, how it affects the brain, and how to treat it.

Hum, too long to read

Sorry Taz but in majority of the pics you are showing we clearly see the opponent(either Orochimaru or Kabuto) wounding her and against someone like Hidan who only needs one drop of blood to kill you, she would be done for

KidGamer65 · Aug 19, 2012

Why the hell did anyone vote for Hidan ?

Shikamaru1994 · Aug 19, 2012

Tsunade Byakugo= immortal for 10 minutes. Hidan= oh shit....

Tsunade= rips head off.

Simplified · Aug 19, 2012

Tazzilla88 said:
Explain to me again how Hidan is stronger than Tsunade.
Tsunade's Prowess

She utilizes involuntary reflexes:

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She hits pressure points:

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She uses shockwaves:

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She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:

She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style
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She is very aware of her surroundings:

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She has extreme strength:

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She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly.She's out planned Shikaku

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and has shown that at times she strategizes better than Shikaku

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Apparently she messed up Kabuto's nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.

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She used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.

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She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.

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She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.

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She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.

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She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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She healed the other kages in order to heighten their chances for sucess This was a great a move. Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.

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I know you may try to use this as a counter-argumentBut all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.

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This was also intelligent

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As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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but she used the attack as a distraction
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And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.

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Huge Chakra Reserves:I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100%, gave them more chakra, attacked Madara, and regenerate from 3 Susanoo swords and 3 Yasaka Magatamas, Donated even more chakra to Oonoki for his large scale Jinton, And Tanked and Regenerated from Madara's Katon which was meant for all 5 kages when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan.

She has Precise Chakra Control:Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)

She can use Body Pathway Derangement:This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.

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She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:

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She is capable of blitzing:

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She can knock people out without using her strength:If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards

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She is not slow:

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Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)

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Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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And when Mei couldn't respond to Madara's Katon in enough time Tsunade was reflexes and speed was great enogh to intercept the attack

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She is incredibly durable:Sword of Kusanagi

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Susanoo Swords

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Three Yasaka Magatamas

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Cut abdomen and Bicep Muscles

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Cut Respiratory Muscles

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Shinra Tensei Fully Powered

Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.

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Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)

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(it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)

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This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken

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This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)

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This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal

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What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.

Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.

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Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.

And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene

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before ... being blitzed.

So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)

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she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

Madara's Katon

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Katsuyu- I think Katsuyu is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyus spitting acid.

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Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuyu a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuyu can crush people. Given the crushing power of this mini katsuyu it only stands to reason the a full sized katsuyu would be much more deadly.

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We also know that Katsuyu can completely envelop people

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And Tsunade can seeming sense what Katsuyu sees

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Katsuyu can transfer information over multiple battlefields at once

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Logically a mini katsuyu like this one could stay with Tsunade and insert chakra into her to wake her from genjutsu

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Katsuyu cannot be harmed cutting or stabbing and as we've seen her withstand Shinra Tensei FP and Chibaku Tensei it is safe to assume she can withstand being crushed.

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General Medical Ninjutsu- self-healing techniques only paralleled by Hashirama, but and in general medical jutsu she is unmatched. Which is why Lee is a shinobi today. Why Oro came to her, when he already had Kabuto, why she was able to heal an entire village at once, and why she was able to quickly and near effortlessly undue the damage done to Kakashi and Sasuke by Itachi's Tsukyomi.

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Which leads me to believe that Genjutsu won't be very effective on her as she firstly has such excellent chakra control as mentioned above so if she stops her chakra flow the genjutsu is ended in addition to knowledge of how it works, how it affects the brain, and how to treat it.

Jesus christ this.

But in short, Tsunade can be evasive, and Hidan can be 1 shotted by her punch. Let's be real here people.

AmaniPaz · Aug 19, 2012

Don't underestimate Tsunade

SandVillageShinobi · Aug 19, 2012

How can you compare Tsunade and Hidan? Tsunade is one of the strongest ninja's alive right now(as far as my calculations go, I haven't calculated absolutely everyone), and Hidan is in the bottom 3 weakest Akatsuki. Tsunade's all around stats come out to 70 out of 100 and Hidan's come out to 63 out of 100. Asuma isn't shit in my opinion but he is weaker than Hidan with stats of 55 out of 100. So you can't really say the Asuma vs. Hidan fight would be anything like a fight between Tsunade and Hidan.

Tsunade vs. Hidan isn't even a fair match. Try Tsunade vs. Kakashi(69 out of 100), or Orochimaru(70 out of 100), or Jiraiya(71 out of 100). All of those would be fair.

SandVillageShinobi · Aug 19, 2012

Bogard said:
Hum, too long to read Sorry Taz but in majority of the pics you are showing we clearly see the opponent(either Orochimaru or Kabuto) wounding her and against someone like Hidan who only needs one drop of blood to kill you, she would be done for

Orochimaru and Kabuto are both higher ranked than Hidan(granted Kabuto only has one point higher than Hidan) and they are both much smarter than Hidan. Tsunade can easily break Hidan's seal and Tsunade can knock him out. Just because he is immortal doesn't mean you can't knock him out. If Shikamaru(who ranks a mere 48 out of 100) was able beat Hidan, Tsunade definitely can.

SandVillageShinobi · Aug 19, 2012

Icelerate said:
Since when was Asuma shit? He is an elite jounin and is pretty strong but yeah Tsunade would destroy Hidan with low difficulty. That ritual will not kill Tsunade because she can just regenerate from damage. Hidan's scythe will be destroyed by Tsunade and his nerves will be injected with lightning chakra which means Hidan won't be able to do anything.

Tsunade has pretty good speed and can dodge Hidan without too much of a hassle. Face it, Hidan would have a better chance fighting someone else but Tsunade utterly destroys him. Also Tsunade can destroy the ritual thing with her strength.

Exactly. Shikamaru was more Hidan's speed, and Shikamaru killed him. Shikamaru (judging by his all around stats) is weaker than Hidan, that must say something about Hidan. I'd say Choji or Ino is more his speed.

Dantee · Aug 19, 2012

Tsunade would rape him. Even if Hidan gets her blood, she can regenerate and once he is out that circle his technique is useless.

Tazzilla88 · Aug 19, 2012

Bogard said:
Hum, too long to read Sorry Taz but in majority of the pics you are showing we clearly see the opponent(either Orochimaru or Kabuto) wounding her and against someone like Hidan who only needs one drop of blood to kill you, she would be done for

:sy: This is the point where you forfeited your opinion. The bolded points were important. The regular text supported the bolded texts. The fact that Tsunade's chest and abdomen has been pierced indicates that Tsunade would be able to tank Deidara's attacks anyway. In comparsion to the abilities of Tsunade that I listed he is reduced to less than a threat. Katsuyu could solo him. Tsunade doesn't even need to waste her time fighting Hidan.
Read then respond otherwise you just look like a fool

Bboyinsayn · Aug 19, 2012

Hidan will win, Hidan is immune.

SandVillageShinobi · Aug 19, 2012

Bboyinsayn said:
Hidan will win, Hidan is immune.

Hidan isn't "immune" to everything. He may be immortal but Tsunade would one hit K-O him.

Bboyinsayn · Aug 19, 2012

SandVillageShinobi said:
Hidan isn't "immune" to everything. He may be immortal but Tsunade would one hit K-O him.

nope. Hidan is immune.

Tazzilla88 · Aug 19, 2012

Bboyinsayn said:
Hidan will win, Hidan is immune.

Tsunade can punch him in the face which would in turn disconnect his head from his body and leave it in several small pieces. He may in fact still be alive but he'd be incapacitated.
She can cut his head off with chakra scalpels
She can break every bone in his body
She could rip him limb from limb
Pathway derangement + heavenly kick of pain
She could use katsuyu to continually melt away his flesh and bone
she could have katsuyu envelop him where he'd be immobilized.
etc. etc.
Tsunade can take him out numerous ways

He is immortal not immune. Show me anywhere in the manga where it uses the word immune. He may not be killed but as Shikamaru showed he can be immobilized.

Hidan is stronger than Tsunade

What do you think?

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