Hidan is not Akatsuki-worthy

[Itachi Namikaze]

Skill wise yes, he is a mid level jounin. But who actually has info on him? Practically no one other than Akatsuki. All of the other Akatsuki either came from big villages or were trying to be secretive about who they were, Hidan wasn't being secretive, it was just that nobody knew about him.

Think about it, if you attack him and you think he is dead, he can just wait and cut you after you let your guard down. Then it is game over whenever he wants. Or if you don't have high level taijutsu / weapon skill, then he will get some blood anyway and you are still dead.

Perhaps the top 20 could beat him without info but other than that probably not. I mean he is pretty lame but productive.

Anyone who does not have at least Kakashi's skill in taijutsu would get beaten. Even Asuma got a little cut on him and he specialized in those trench knives.

So long range fighters can beat him if they can make it so he can't move afterwards. But if they hit him and think he is dead then he could just play possum. It seems like it would work.

 

[sG Taka]

Again what would you do if you were a ninja with no intel on him?

would u rush in blindly? or wait and play it safe?

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he's immortal from use of jashin curse

It depends, see..I'm saying most ninja would be able to beat him..
Well, this is weird..because if the technique works..Jashin is real..and if Jashin is real.. but yeah, never thought about that! lol

 

[Better]

Well, obviously Hidan can beat some shinobi, and yes, Asuma would've probably lost either way if it weren't for Shikamaru but my point still stands.

The way to get into the akatsuki is to be a S ranked criminal and have good abilities

Hidan and everyone else in the akatsuki match that discribtion

except for konan she's not a criminal

 

[Better]

It depends, see..I'm saying most ninja would be able to beat him..
Well, this is weird..because if the technique works..Jashin is real..and if Jashin is real.. but yeah, never thought about that! lol

I'm not denying that with intel of hidan, a lot of shinobi can beat him

but without he can take out almost anyone

 

[sG Taka]

Skill wise yes, he is a mid level jounin. But who actually has info on him? Practically no one other than Akatsuki. All of the other Akatsuki either came from big villages or were trying to be secretive about who they were, Hidan wasn't being secretive, it was just that nobody knew about him.

Think about it, if you attack him and you think he is dead, he can just wait and cut you after you let your guard down. Then it is game over whenever he wants. Or if you don't have high level taijutsu / weapon skill, then he will get some blood anyway and you are still dead.

Perhaps the top 20 could beat him without info but other than that probably not. I mean he is pretty lame but productive.

Anyone who does not have at least Kakashi's skill in taijutsu would get beaten. Even Asuma got a little cut on him and he specialized in those trench knives.

So long range fighters can beat him if they can make it so he can't move afterwards. But if they hit him and think he is dead then he could just play possum. It seems like it would work.

Bold: Do you really think his arrogance and smarts will let him? I think he'll just brag about how "immortal" he is. But then again, you might be right.

The thing with the info is that..one jounin dead from Konoha and everybody knows who killed him. So..pretty much everybody would have intel on him, just like most ninjas have intel of other ninjas. And also, I think most ninjas are able of figuring out his technique, I mean..Shikamaru's a genius..but he didn't go DaVinci on Hidan to figure him out.

 

[Hunsdale]

honestly even if it was two on 1 with no intel

Only shikamaru and his dad would think of it, and have the perfect counter to get him out of the circle with the shadows

a team of kakashi and ino could do it to

kakashi is smart enough to figure it out and hidan cant move outa the circle so ino could hit him easy with the mind transfer then jus bounce out b4 kakashi decapitated him ???

but ya i guess it would be hard to figure out in time to save ur life with no intel

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

The way to get into the akatsuki is to be a S ranked criminal and have good abilities

Hidan and everyone else in the akatsuki match that discribtion

except for konan she's not a criminal

Technically neither is Nagato then. Konan and Nagato are in the same boat. They both were original Akatsuki members and then took over their village. So Pain was a kage.

Him fighting Konoha can be viewed as intervillage warfare...technically.

I would still call him and Konan criminals but they repented so it is alright.

 

[Better]

Technically neither is Nagato then. Konan and Nagato are in the same boat. They both were original Akatsuki members and then took over their village. So Pain was a kage.

Him fighting Konoha can be viewed as intervillage warfare...technically.

I would still call him and Konan criminals but they repented so it is alright.

yea i guess, but didn't nagato (as pain) capture jinchuriki and kill hanzo

those are crimes

the only thing konan has ever done was steal for food with yahiko and nagato

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Bold: Do you really think his arrogance and smarts will let him? I think he'll just brag about how "immortal" he is. But then again, you might be right.

The thing with the info is that..one jounin dead from Konoha and everybody knows who killed him. So..pretty much everybody would have intel on him, just like most ninjas have intel of other ninjas. And also, I think most ninjas are able of figuring out his technique, I mean..Shikamaru's a genius..but he didn't go DaVinci on Hidan to figure him out.

Yeah Hidan is pretty arrogant so you are probably right about that. If he was smarter though he would just do that, pretend he is dead and wait till they let their guard down. Then you can just wait and kill them.

But I think he would lose to the top 20 or so even if they didn't have any info on him. People like Onoki, Muu, Nagato, Itachi, Deidara, Sasori, etc. They can all beat him from a distance without even trying because of genjutsu or long range attacks that would just obliterate him (dust release, chibaku tensei, soul stealing, Sasori doesn't have blood)

But against pretty much anyone under a kage, if they don't have info he has a really good chance.

EDIT: @Better, she also attacked Konoha with Pain. She killed one of the Aburame bug people I am pretty sure. She did some stuff, that is why I said they are in the same boat, because technically she is part of a village and it counts as a village attacking another village, like when one Kumo ninja tried to kidnap Hinata, he wasn't branded a criminal because it was village warfare.

So technically they aren't criminals, just a hostile village. But in my eyes they are criminals.

 

[Retsu]

I believe if you don't have to worry about that Monster known as Kakuzu backing him up, Hidan is as easy as pie, he wasn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, and he's easy to provoke, any jounin should be able to pick up on this.

Even in the fight with Asuma, although Kakuzu didn't actually help, his presence was still enough to keep everyone outta synch, immortality only gets you so far in narutoverse, and I seriously doubt Hidan's the type to feign death.

1 on 1 a ninja would recognize Hidan's scythe is his biggest threat and then they'd surely disarm him, and from that point on he's gonna be using that spike, although at this point it wouldn't do him any good.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

really ? nagato disagree

 

[Baldy]

He is dangerous because of the fact that without knowledge you would most probably lose. Akatsuki is kinda mysterious and the members abilities are not well known so it would be very probable that Hidan was chosen because of that

 

[devojoyti halder]

Let me start by saying I am not a hater, Hidan is not weak, I just think he doesn't have the overall skill level to be part of the Akatsuki. Let me explain myself as briefly as possible. See, Hidan is the weakest of the Akatsuki (Zetsu is an exception because he is there for a different purpose). Konan would wreck Hidan, having intel on his ability, she could just fly and cut him up into a million pieces, he has very little chances against her. As for Sasori, Deidara, Tobi, Nagato, Itachi, Kisame and Kakuzu, I think it's agreeable that all of them can beat Hidan.

Hidan is slow, careless, arrogant and easily fooled. These characteristics are all shown during his fight against Team Asuma and Shikamaru. I believe he is only in the Akatsuki because of his immortality. Yes, he is "immortal" in a sense (although he can die from a lack of nutrients) but this "immortality" is pretty much useless in a 1v1 because his opponent can just either cut his head off or the arm wielding the Triple-Blade Scythe, and he's as good as dead. If it weren't for Kakuzu, Asuma would have won that fight.

Hidan's good feats are:
-Good Taijutsu
-One Ninjutsu: Curse Technique-Death Controlling Possessed Blood-

He has no variety whatsoever and his taijutsu can be easily matched. Yes, one scratch from his scythe and it's most likely game over for the opponent but still, I just don't think that feature alone justifies his place in the Akatsuki Organization. Kakashi easily managed to dodge every attack and Asuma would have to (if he had intel). This being said, most ninja with above average taijutsu and decent speed can dodge or block all of his attacks. As I said earlier, he is slow and careless.

Another reason he is in the Akatsuki is because Kakuzu had killed every other partner he had..this is still not a justification because Tobi could be his partner, since he has that Space Time Ninjutsu technique, he can avoid Kakuzu's every attack until he calms down.

He is a powerful ninja but it seems that when compared with the other Akatsuki members..he appears weak. Dunno..I think the spot would've been better for another person.

Well, you get rep+ dude, nice thread!

 

[LolaxXx]

they ran out of members, so they were like...."ehh...he sucks...buuuut at least he wont die like everyone else. he can be useful." Without his immortality...we'd be like, "Hidan..? Hidan what?" haha, hidan is garbs

 

[LolaxXx]

Hidan VS any akatsuki will be like...

King Vegeta VS 1st form freeza
Grimmjow VS Aizen
Konohamaru vs Kankuro
Ash VS Mewtwo
Wing Zero VS Gurren Lagann
Agumon VS Myotismon
Yuffie VS Sephiroth
Kid Link VS Ganondorf
Sakura VS Dark Ryu
Pinnochio VS The Whale

Hidan would die against anyother akatsuki

 

[Tylor]

Let me start by saying I am not a hater, Hidan is not weak, I just think he doesn't have the overall skill level to be part of the Akatsuki. Let me explain myself as briefly as possible. See, Hidan is the weakest of the Akatsuki (Zetsu is an exception because he is there for a different purpose). Konan would wreck Hidan, having intel on his ability, she could just fly and cut him up into a million pieces, he has very little chances against her. As for Sasori, Deidara, Tobi, Nagato, Itachi, Kisame and Kakuzu, I think it's agreeable that all of them can beat Hidan.

Hidan is slow, careless, arrogant and easily fooled. These characteristics are all shown during his fight against Team Asuma and Shikamaru. I believe he is only in the Akatsuki because of his immortality. Yes, he is "immortal" in a sense (although he can die from a lack of nutrients) but this "immortality" is pretty much useless in a 1v1 because his opponent can just either cut his head off or the arm wielding the Triple-Blade Scythe, and he's as good as dead. If it weren't for Kakuzu, Asuma would have won that fight.

Hidan's good feats are:
-Good Taijutsu
-One Ninjutsu: Curse Technique-Death Controlling Possessed Blood-

He has no variety whatsoever and his taijutsu can be easily matched. Yes, one scratch from his scythe and it's most likely game over for the opponent but still, I just don't think that feature alone justifies his place in the Akatsuki Organization. Kakashi easily managed to dodge every attack and Asuma would have to (if he had intel). This being said, most ninja with above average taijutsu and decent speed can dodge or block all of his attacks. As I said earlier, he is slow and careless.

Another reason he is in the Akatsuki is because Kakuzu had killed every other partner he had..this is still not a justification because Tobi could be his partner, since he has that Space Time Ninjutsu technique, he can avoid Kakuzu's every attack until he calms down.

He is a powerful ninja but it seems that when compared with the other Akatsuki members..he appears weak. Dunno..I think the spot would've been better for another person.

agrees

 

[Baka Sennin]

he was the last recruit (bar tobi). yeah by himself he pretty much sucks, there's no way he can take on several ninja by himself. but with kakuzu he makes a very strong team.

 

[siyo]

I disagree.Hidan might not be the most powerful of the members (far from it) but to me he's one of the deadliest.

I have not seen many fights without any blood, even Itachi who coughed blood, so hidan would have the advantage in most fights.He can pretty much tank any attack, then use that to fool you into getting close range with him.

Kishi also said Hidan had other tools he didn't get to show.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Hidan VS any akatsuki will be like...

King Vegeta VS 1st form freeza
Grimmjow VS Aizen
Konohamaru vs Kankuro
Ash VS Mewtwo
Wing Zero VS Gurren Lagann
Agumon VS Myotismon
Yuffie VS Sephiroth
Kid Link VS Ganondorf
Sakura VS Dark Ryu
Pinnochio VS The Whale

Hidan would die against anyother akatsuki

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Link always triumphant over Ganondorf? Even when he is a kid? Ocarina of time has him switching times but he is still boss as a kid.

 

[Zerabitu]

think about it, for hidan to be immortal he need to keep doing his ritual, so imagine how many people he has killed? he's perfect for the akatuski

Wrong.
The following capture is directly from Narutopedia. Yes, not that it is 100% accurate but so far, it is one of the most reliable sources of information.

"Hidan's main advantage was his inability to die, a result of extensive experimenting with the Jashin religion's various techniques. His immortality allowed him to survive numerous fatal injuries, and almost any form of dismemberment; he even retained his ability to speak after having his head cut off. However, his head still needed to be connected to his body in order to control it.

Despite being "immortal", he is still capable of dying from a lack of nutrients."




It says nothing about him needing to perform the ritual in order to keep being "immortal".
And to someone being unsure how immortal he really is, it is stated that he can still die from lack of nutrients. Which are water and food. So by now, he is pretty much dead in that pit that Shikamaru buried him in.

He is more than worthy to be a part of Akatsuki. It's not always about "OMG NO ONE CAN SURVIVE AGAINST IITTTACHI <3 ALONE LOLOLOL!" or something similar. It's about being the most effective as a unit. They did capture a Bijuu together, did they not? And since Kakuzu had the habit of killing his partners, Hidan was the perfect choice to company him. They used Hidan in Kakuzus elemental attacks, that would've been impossible for someone else. So Hidan is nothing near useless, quite the contrary.



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