Hidan Did Not Tank Kakuzu's Fuuton Blast

[Brother Numpsay]

You provided the scan for the Raiton blast, not the Fuuton blast.

................ Huh?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Hidan is Kishi's biggest plot hole. How can he survive that, but be decapitated easily. Your argument is acceptable.

Because hidan got decapitated by a fuuton knife specifically designed for high powered cutting. kakuzu's jutsu uses pressure to crush.

Your completely right who believed he did anyway? Honestly some of the confusion on the base is just amusing.

He most likely tanked it. The jutsu crushes with wind pressure, not slices. If what OP says were remotely true, then kakashi would have more cuts on his clothes instead of a missing jacket and a nipped mask. It's most likely his jacket hooked on debris/he removed it, and his mask got snipped by some debris. Hidans coat stayed on because his back was facing the jutsu, thus his jacket was being blown on him (wrapping around his body tightly) than off him - which is what would happen if the air was being blown from the front-inside of the jacket. Kakashi just got nipped by debree while hidan didn't.

Otherwise, you're saying that hidan is faster than kakashi since he completely avoided an attack which was closer to him, that a sharingan user could barely dodge? lol... Even kakazu said it's only because of the sharingan he escaped. Hidan doesn't have a sharingan, nor is he psychicly linked to kakuzu to know exactly when the mask will release it's attack.

 

[TrollingSage]

Because hidan got decapitated by a fuuton knife specifically designed for high powered cutting. kakuzu's jutsu uses pressure to crush.


He most likely tanked it. The jutsu crushes with wind pressure, not slices. If what OP says were remotely true, then kakashi would have more cuts on his clothes instead of a missing jacket and a nipped mask. It's most likely his jacket hooked on debris/he removed it, and his mask got snipped by some debris. Hidans coat stayed on because his back was facing the jutsu, thus his jacket was being blown on him (wrapping around his body tightly) than off him - which is what would happen if the air was being blown from the front-inside of the jacket. Kakashi just got nipped by debree while hidan didn't.

Otherwise, you're saying that hidan is faster than kakashi since he completely avoided an attack which was closer to him, that a sharingan user could barely dodge? lol... Even kakazu said it's only because of the sharingan he escaped. Hidan doesn't have a sharingan, nor is he psychicly linked to kakuzu to know exactly when the mask will release it's attack.

Having partnered with Kakuzu for years, Hidan might have known the attack was coming.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Having partnered with Kakuzu for years, Hidan might have known the attack was coming.

It doesn't matter. He had his back turned to it, he could never know when the blast would be shot. He isn't psychically linked to kakuzu. Furthermore, Kakashi has a sharingan, and saw the mask appear behind hidan - with his sharingan - while hidan was still in his sharingan sight. Therefore, Hidan could never move out of that masks attack before kakashi could easily see him. Nor could hidan move away before kakashi could seeing as he was withing kakashi's sharingan sight along with the mask. Kakashi would have the fastest reaction and be the first candidate to initiate a dodge because, once again, he has a sharingan. Hidan doesn't, and his back was turned. The only other explanation is that hidan is faster than kakashi since he'd have a slower reaction time, because he doesn't have a sharingan to predict exactly what is going to happen, meaning he'd move after kakashi, but still completely dodge the attack? No. Either hidan tanked the attack, or he's alot faster than kakashi, and I doubt hidan is faster than kakashi

 

[Booker]

It doesn't matter. He had his back turned to it, he could never know when the blast would be shot. He isn't psychically linked to kakuzu. Furthermore, Kakashi has a sharingan, and saw the mask appear behind hidan - with his sharingan - while hidan was still in his sharingan sight. Therefore, Hidan could never move out of that masks attack before kakashi could easily see him. Nor could hidan move away before kakashi could seeing as he was withing kakashi's sharingan sight along with the mask. Kakashi would have the fastest reaction and be the first candidate to initiate a dodge because, once again, he has a sharingan. Hidan doesn't, and his back was turned. The only other explanation is that hidan is faster than kakashi since he'd have a slower reaction time, because he doesn't have a sharingan to predict exactly what is going to happen, meaning he'd move after kakashi, but still completely dodge the attack? No. Either hidan tanked the attack, or he's alot faster than kakashi, and I doubt hidan is faster than kakashi

Lol you still don't get it.

Hidan and Kakuzu are one of the best duos in the series, practice and teamwork wise. They KNOW each other's attacks, they've probably practiced that move a thousand times, just so Hidan knows exactly when Kakuzu will shoot. It's like Ay's and Bee's lariat, it's perfectely coordinated, even though they arn't linked.

Hidan has an evasive advantage at this point, he could have used his scythe to get leverage on a tree and move himself, since he's done it before. Kakashi was at a disadvantage since he was just flying through the air.

 

[ILikeBigYolos]

Lol you still don't get it.

Hidan and Kakuzu are one of the best duos in the series, practice and teamwork wise. They KNOW each other's attacks, they've probably practiced that move a thousand times, just so Hidan knows exactly when Kakuzu will shoot. It's like Ay's and Bee's lariat, it's perfectely coordinated, even though they arn't linked.

Hidan has an evasive advantage at this point, he could have used his scythe to get leverage on a tree and move himself, since he's done it before. Kakashi was at a disadvantage since he was just flying through the air.

Key word here: PROBABLY. Read it over: "they've PROBABLY practiced that move a thousand times," Again, all just assumptions. Don't call me a fanboy because I despise Hidan. I'm just stating facts. I have provided evidence to show that you are making assumptions. Also, it is your OPINION that they are the "best" duo in the series. Best is an opinion word.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I still come here just to read if you are sincre about your interpretation or just trolling.
Im still debating on that. Here is a hypothetical question.

What happens if Hidan "did" get hit by the blast/side effects

 

[Booker]

I still come here just to read if you are sincre about your interpretation or just trolling.
Im still debating on that. Here is a hypothetical question.

What happens if Hidan "did" get hit by the blast/side effects

He would have had damage on his cloak in some form.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He would have had damage on his cloak in some form.

Im talking the character personally not his clothes. What will happen to him

 

[Curse Mark]

This is still going on? Any new developments in either side's argument? Who's winning this?

 

[Booker]

Im talking the character personally not his clothes. What will happen to him

From Kakuzu's Fuuton?

He surely would have had bones broken, skin torn, limbs missing from the joints, as is apparent from the fact the blast managed to destroy trees.

This is still going on? Any new developments in either side's argument? Who's winning this?

Debates over, just waiting on judges.

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[Unbiased King]

So pictures>everything?

Okay. Then Naruto is a cloud ninja. Or Kishi makes mistakes, your choice.

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[Booker]

So pictures>everything?

Okay. Then Naruto is a cloud ninja. Or Kishi makes mistakes, your choice.

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Small, almost unnoticable mistake.

Huge plothole that refutes Hidan's tanking feat.

Hmmmm.

 

[Unbiased King]

Small, almost unnoticable mistake.

Huge plothole that refutes Hidan's tanking feat.

Hmmmm.

Alright, I'll make it a bit more relevant.

Here we see Kakashi's injury from Obitos cross-slice.

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But like magic, Kakashi has sown his teared clothing.

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Under sights do happen.

 

[Booker]

Alright, I'll make it a bit more relevant.

Here we see Kakashi's injury from Obitos cross-slice.

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But like magic, Kakashi has sown his teared clothing.

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Under sights do happen.

Your sig tells me all I need to know about you.

Let me say again:

Small, irrelevant mistake: Kakashi's vest is missing scratches. Care to post any scans after that? Did Kishi draw them in again?

Plothole: Fuuton blows off Kakashi's jacket built to with stand blasts, Hidan's cloak is perfectly fine and shows no extra damage, not even later.

 

[Unbiased King]

Your sig tells me all I need to know about you.

Ouch. I kinda took that to heart.

Let me say again:

Small, irrelevant mistake: Kakashi's vest is missing scratches. Care to post any scans after that? Did Kishi draw them in again?

Sir yes sir; he did correct his mistake.

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But then decided Kakashi should have adept sewing skills again.

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Plothole: Fuuton blows off Kakashi's jacket built to with stand blasts, Hidan's cloak is perfectly fine and shows no extra damage, not even later.

Yeah I'm not refuting that at all, in fact that was a good find on your part. I'll even agree with the OP in that Hidan can sustain injury.

But if you are going against the popular "misconception" that Hidan actually tanked the blast, then you must believe he avoided, no?

But even to believe that, you'd have to believe that he:

a) Avoided an attack aimed at his blindspot from short-mid range
b) Has the capability to move faster than the rate of explosion from the attack.

 

[Booker]

Ouch. I kinda took that to heart.


Sir yes sir; he did correct his mistake.

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But then decided Kakashi should have adept sewing skills again.

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Yeah I'm not refuting that at all, in fact that was a good find on your part. I'll even agree with the OP in that Hidan can sustain injury.

But if you are going against the popular "misconception" that Hidan actually tanked the blast, then you must believe he avoided, no?

But even to believe that, you'd have to believe that he:

a) Avoided an attack aimed at his blindspot from short-mid range
b) Has the capability to move faster than the rate of explosion from the attack.

Well I can justify that in that Hidan and Kakuzu are one of the greatest and well polished duos in the Manga. Hidan would have known exactly when that attack was coming, and then used his scythe as a means to move himself midair by hitting a tree.

And no offense, you're not that bad, I've just had bad experiences for anyone arguing for Hidan.

 

[Unbiased King]

Well I can justify that in that Hidan and Kakuzu are one of the greatest and well polished duos in the Manga. Hidan would have known exactly when that attack was coming, and then used his scythe as a means to move himself midair by hitting a tree.

And no offense, you're not that bad, I've just had bad experiences for anyone arguing for Hidan.

Eh alright; I can concede to that, mostly cause I can't refute it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

From Kakuzu's Fuuton?

He surely would have had bones broken, skin torn, limbs missing from the joints, as is apparent from the fact the blast managed to destroy trees.

So the problem for you is conceding Hidan's credibility of his immortality. All the evidence shows that it is indeed creditable and you are basing it off of that ONE non-damage clothing to support your claim. You want to ignore where clothing in the Manga are protected for a reason because the author knows the readers he is targeting. Not only that you also took your claims without putting everything in context.

Point one: You post this scan to proof that Hidan dodged the attack:

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You claim that Hidan knew it was coming (Which is right

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and Hidan saying the first person to survive from that attack, Kakashi.)

But you completely ignored that he wasn't even in the same page as Kakuzu after the Blast that you claim he dodged (Which Kakuzu is ready to start his next attack):

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(This page Shows no Hidan After the Fuuton Blast was Shot)

Your premises falls from there since to proved he dodged it from an incoming attack he would know of "beforehand", would mean he wouldn't be in the same distance as Kakashi reappearing from the next attack from Kakuzu. Otherwise he shouldn't get caught from the gust of wind, that same gust of wind that damaged Kakashi's jacket. So therefore your wrong as the viewer as the reader and Ino was right because she was actually there to witness.

-Conclusion of Point 1, Evidence shows Hidan reappearing after Kakashi. Hidan should of ATLEAST be in a position as Kakashi's appearance. Ino the witness from her own eyes is credited from the observation then the actual reader who is trying to understand the situation.

Your 1st Point also falls from clothing damage from this page:

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So now the evidence falls on you: Explain this page, why isn't Kakuzu nor Hidan's clothes damaged from this attack? Logically their clothes should of been torn just like what Asuma's burning ash did to "part" of Hidan's.

One more:

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Should that put damage one the clothing since your non-damage clothing argument applies your conclusion?


2nd Point: "Hidan had the same damaged as Asuma". You were also Sincere they they were exactly the same.

You completely ignored when they aren't. First of you ignored that Hidan stabbed his own femur (yes that was me who started saying that:

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It crippled Asuma (further proof is when Kakuzu kicked him and he wasn't able to fight again, fighting Hidan on the ground)

Then ignored that 4 vital points that was destroyed from Asuma didn't phase Hidan:

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Now you want to sneak in the "same damage by applying that the ashes from Asuma are the same as Hidan's... Completely wrong. The art completely showed that Asuma's damage was MUCH worse then Hidan's. Not to mention that in less then a week there weren't anymore:

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And you still see his stitches.


I was going not waste my time posting here to I just couldn't leave the fact that you have people believing this interpretation of yours which is just sad. You blame on plot for certain things about Hidan just so you refuse to give credibility. You refuse to concede and whoever is against you is automatically called a fanboy, moron/idiot, and delusional reader.