Hiashi vs Tsunade

[Exaar]

According to Jiraiya she is the best taijutsu user.
And in the DATABOOK she has 5 in taijutsu.

Link?.

So tsunade is better than Gai at Taijutsu? xd

 

[the dark king]

okay iv'e just realised that even if strength of a hundred can heal her she cant really touch hiashi can she? and even if she can hiashi would be constantly damaging her organs. so i was wrong, hiashi takes this

serious praise to Bogard awesome and well thought out thread before this i never thought tsunade could be beaten by hiashi

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Link?.

So tsunade is better than Gai at Taijutsu? xd

I'll search it 4 you.

But as I remember the quote sounds like this:

"no one could stand equal to her in terms of combat and medical prowess"

 

[Bogard]

i agree with almost everything you said but i dont think that it'll be that easy to get to someone so skilled at the art of evasion. what i think is if tsunade can activate stregth of a hundered and if said strength of a hundred can heal damage to the chakra pathway system then tsunade wins BUT if tsunade cannot heal from hiashi's attacks then tsunade dies


so if strength of a hundred can heal her (she's a master at evading she'll get to activate it) then tsunade>hiashi

but if it cant hiashi >>>>> tsunade

personally i like hiashi better than tsunade anyway but i dont know the limits of strenghth of a hundred

Since when strength of hundred can heal? It's a powerful punch, point blank. But that punch is nothing against a rotation even able to block Juubi's attack. And Hiashi can use his rotation very fast in close combat even when they are caught off-guard(and that's genin Neji's feat): #

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So if Tsunade tries to come in close range with her punch, she would not only be blown away but she would also receive the damage of chakra repulsion of the rotation. Hiashi than proceeds to finish her with his gentle fist style by pin-pointing her chakra networks.

 

[Unbiased]

I think here everyone forgets that she is a medical ninja.

She can't heal without chakra which will be blocked off.

 

[the dark king]

why are the hyuga so underrated?

 

[Bogard]

okay iv'e just realised that even if strength of a hundred can heal her she cant really touch hiashi can she? and even if she can hiashi would be constantly damaging her organs. so i was wrong, hiashi takes this

serious praise to Bogard awesome and well thought out thread before this i never thought tsunade could be beaten by hiashi

Haha glad to know. I believe Hiashi is underrated. He is more powerful than people think

 

[nakumaru]

Verbal definition of sense (as used in tenten's statement) Sense - Perceive by a sense or senses. He can therefore perceive attacks coming.

Yes, but im uncomfortable with you making it seem like Neji Can "feel" the attack, if you will. Its not like Sage Mode where they can "Feel" it. He just plainly See's it.

Also the Viz translation (which is far more reliable than any scan you can possibly bring me) simply says that he can see in an almost complete circle around him. The word "Sense" is never used.

 

[Unbiased]

Yes, but im uncomfortable with you making it seem like Neji Can "feel" the attack, if you will. Its not like Sage Mode where they can "Feel" it. He just plainly See's it.

Also the Viz translation (which is far more reliable than any scan you can possibly bring me) simply says that he can see in an almost complete circle around him. The word "Sense" is never used.

Can you post a page of the viz translation?

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

@slug princess tsunade
so you are saying she is better at tai jutsu
than all the tai jutsu specialist?
Looking at your user name im not surprised
i ve debated with some tsuande fans like you
all you do is insult people like me and then ask me to gtfo :|
and dont give me that Jiraiya said so shit
Edo madara said Hashi can defeat him and so do you think its possible?
If you think it is then log off your pc and never come back

 

[Bogard]

When is it stated by Jiraya that she is the best in taijutsu to begin with? :|

 

[nakumaru]

Can you post a page of the viz translation?

im not quite sure where I could find one online without having to buy it, but i will try to find one.

All i want to say is that fan translations can be off sometimes. A good example is back in part in Naruto vs Sasuke. After 1TK Naruto punches Sasuke with his curse mark active Sasuke is left on the ground. Official Translations all simply had Sasuke sitting there laughing. While Some fan translations had Sasuke saying "Fufufufu Im not even hurt" and it led to people thinking Sasuke had top tier durability (at the time). Which was false.


Fan Translations are good most of the time but im just saying that Official Translations are the most reliable source, And in this situation the Official Translation conflicts with the scan you've given, so im incline to go with whats official. (although *********** is the best non-official translations and i would trust those completely)

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

@slug princess tsunade
so you are saying she is better at tai jutsu
than all the tai jutsu specialist?
Looking at your user name im not surprised
i ve debated with some tsuande fans like you
all you do is insult people like me and then ask me to gtfo :|
and dont give me that Jiraiya said so shit
Edo madara said Hashi can defeat him and so do you think its possible?
If you think it is then log off your pc and never come back

Calm down, I won't insult kids like you. I'm not so cruel as you think. :ghehe:

 

[Bogard]

Gentle fist is considered as the

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, so i don't know where some people got the information that Tsunade is the best in taijutsu. It's far from it. Hyugas are the best, and Hiashi is the strongest Hyuga

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Failed yet again to prove your baseless point
making pointless assumptions
look who is the butthurt kid?

 

[nakumaru]

Gentle fist is considered as the

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, so i don't know where some people got the information that Tsunade is the best in taijutsu. It's far from it. Hyugas are the best, and Hiashi is the strongest Hyuga

They have the strongest Form of Taijutsu. That Doesn't mean they're the best at taijutsu, if it came to a close range fight i would still have my money on a uchiha, with the Pre-Cog of Sharingan the hyuuga wouldn't land a blow.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Failed yet again to prove your baseless point
making pointless assumptions
look who is the butthurt kid?

You, I guess?

 

[Bogard]

They have the strongest Form of Taijutsu. That Doesn't mean they're the best at taijutsu, if it came to a close range fight i would still have my money on a uchiha, with the Pre-Cog of Sharingan the hyuuga wouldn't land a blow.

Sharingan has precognition, but it's useless if the opponents attack is unpredictable(Bee vs Sasuke). Hyuga's style is not randomly landing punches, it's a precise gentle fist style with many variants and pin-pointing chakra networks. So it's far from linear and too raffinate to be predictable by the sharingan. Byakugan on the other hand can see all incoming attacks around the user.

It can be comparable in some way to Rinnegan's share of vision and we have all seen how it's difficult to land a hit when the Rinnengan user have his vision shared with some others, but Byakugan is even better since it can also localize things/people from far distance and see the opening points(something that not even the Sharingan/Rinnengan could). And now they have their rotation defense they can easily and rapidely use in taijutsu even if they are caught off-guard, just releasing it doesn't only block the opponent attack, but also reflect it to him(so he receives the double damage). Hyuga are by far superior to Uchihas in taijutsu

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Nah
im not cuz i ve already proved my point
your fav char got trashed
so logically you are the butthurt one :y

 

[nakumaru]

Sharingan has precognition, but it's useless if the opponents attack is unpredictable(Bee vs Sasuke). Hyuga's style is not randomly landing punches, it's a precise gentle fist style with many variants and pin-pointing chakra networks. So it's far from linear and too raffinate to be predictable by the sharingan. Byakugan on the other hand can see all incoming attacks around the user.

It can be comparable in some way to Rinnegan's share of vision and we have all seen how it's difficult to land a hit when the Rinnengan user have his vision shared with some others, but Byakugan is even better since it can also localize things/people from far distance and see the opening points(something that not even the Sharingan/Rinnengan could). And now they have their rotation defense they can easily and rapidely use in taijutsu even if they are caught off-guard, just releasing it doesn't only block the opponent attack, but also reflect it to him(so he receives the double damage). Hyuga are by far superior to Uchihas in taijutsu

Nothing is unpredictable. There are just ways to get around it

Examples: Raikage and Naruto's Speed completely Escapes its sight (Excluding Madara in case of A, Only Naruto's Shunshin would be able to accomplish this with Shunshin)

Lee vs. Sasuke: Sasuke's Sharingan could see it, but his body couldn't react.

Bee vs Sasuke: Sasuke Sharingan could see it, but there were so many targets that Sasuke couldn't react to all of them.



Sharingan would easily be able to keep up with the Hyuuga's Strikes. 0tk Naruto was able to Match Neji in Taijutsu like it was nothing, Neji was going all out while Naruto was mocking him, And Sauske Obliterated a Higher Level of 0tk than what fought with Neji.

Im not trying to imply ABC Logic, but on a basic level it can apply here. A Sharingan user Can Trounce a Byakuugan User in Close Range.