[VS] Hiashi vs Mei and Tsunade

[Apêx1]

Thanks for posting the scan, you can clearly see the spikes aren't exactly human sized as you claim and some of them are pretty small when the others are somewhat larger. They aren't the same in size.
I still don't see your point though, Choji- who is himself Bijuu sized when transformed- was able to easily hold one of the tails. With his hands.

Clearly the Mokutons right next to him are all human sized. Here again, you see FRS, which has the width equivalent to the length of a human being dwarfed by half these Mokuton branches. Don't see where you are going with this, even if it is 1 meter 50, doesn't change anything now does it, not that it is. So either way, they are a point on the Juubis finger, so a point multiplied by a 50 would only add up to the Juubi's finger, and we're already at 75 meters.


Choji is only Bijuu sized? Based on what exactly? Super expansion pt 1. Choji was Bijuu sized or greater, how is pt. 2 Choji not larger, or are you basing this off of a direct comparison?

They weren't bigger than they usually used to be, the difference between them and the humans under their feet is the same when they transformed without Naruto's cloak. I'm not biased, but feats and manga scans >>> your opinion.

Haha. Part 1 Choji [

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]. Part 2 Choji>Part 1 Choji. What does this conclude? Kyuubi cloak war arc Choji>Part 1. Smh.

 

[Exaar]

Not sure if he beats them both, But tsunade aint Soloing

 

[Strict]

Don't you dare to start this again. you are trying to argue with manga facts. Last time you did this I proved you wrong.

It may be invisible, but it isn't instant and it isn't impossible to counter. If it would be instant, Hiashi would be above the likes of Itachi, which is ridiculous at best. When using it, Hiashi has to hold up his hand at first. So Mei will have plenty of time to create a layer of suitons between herself and Hiashi.

lol which Manga facts? That Hiashi pushed away a huge object with a mass of dozen of tones away for 50 meters, simultaneously creating a crater under his feet?

Mei couldn't react with a Suiton in time against Madara's Katon, yet you say she reacts to Hiashi raising his hand and releasing an invisible shock wave which instantly hits the target. Interesting.

Don't argue with Itachi, we are not talking about Itachi, we talk about Mei and Tsunade, who are slow, can't use feints, distractions, have no defense like Susanoo, etc.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Clearly the Mokutons right next to him are all human sized. Here again, you see FRS, which has the width equivalent to the length of a human being dwarfed by half these Mokuton branches. Don't see where you are going with this, even if it is 1 meter 50, doesn't change anything now does it, not that it is. So either way, they are a point on the Juubis finger, so a point multiplied by a 50 would only add up to the Juubi's finger, and we're already at 75 meters.


Choji is only Bijuu sized? Based on what exactly? Super expansion pt 1. Choji was Bijuu sized or greater, how is pt. 2 Choji not larger, or are you basing this off of a direct comparison?



Haha. Part 1 Choji [

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]. Part 2 Choji>Part 1 Choji. What does this conclude? Kyuubi cloak war arc Choji>Part 1. Smh.

You just proved my point. Choji's size hasn't changed after the cloak.

But that's irrelevant, because we were talking about the sticks fired by the Juubi at Hiashi's direction. And those sticks are clearly different in size.

 

[TheEvilOne]

lol which Manga facts? That Hiashi pushed away a huge object with a mass of dozen of tones away for 50 meters, simultaneously creating a crater under his feet?

Mei couldn't react with a Suiton in time against Madara's Katon, yet you say she reacts to Hiashi raising his hand and releasing an invisible shock wave which instantly hits the target. Interesting.

Don't argue with Itachi, we are not talking about Itachi, we talk about Mei and Tsunade, who are slow, can't use feints, distractions, have no defense like Susanoo, etc.

This is the point where I realized you aren't serious. You just said they are slower than the character who has no speed feats at all. Wow.

 

[Apêx1]

You just proved my point. Choji's size hasn't changed after the cloak.

But that's irrelevant, because we were talking about the sticks fired by the Juubi at Hiashi's direction. And those sticks are clearly different in size.

What? How exactly does Mokutons being human sized nearby Neji imply Choji isn't any larger from the cloak lmao?

Changes nothing, I showed you they were a point on his finger. A point that's about 1.5 meters. Multiply this point downwards from the tip of the finger and it exceeds several hundred meters.

 

[KameSennin]

Hashi will win

 

[Haizaki]

Lol Apex is TheEvilOne saying Choji didn't increase size after the Kyuubi cloak? I hope he's not saying so?

 

[RedRobin]

Team 2 med-low diff.

Its 2 kage level characters versus one kage level character, logically speaking he doesnt have chance, feats also say this.

 

[Apêx1]

Lol Apex is TheEvilOne saying Choji didn't increase size after the Kyuubi cloak? I hope he's not saying so?

Sadly, he is saying kyuubi cloak Choji hasn't increased in size in comparison to pt 1. Choji.

 

[Haizaki]

Sadly, he is saying kyuubi cloak Choji hasn't increased in size in comparison to pt 1. Choji.

Lol I'll post a reply shortly.

 

[Strict]

This is the point where I realized you aren't serious. You just said they are slower than the character who has no speed feats at all. Wow.

First of all, I compared Itachi to Mei to Tsunade, as you carried out a comparison. I never mentioned Hiashi's speed.
Secondly, whether you like it or not, the databook gives Hiashi a speed stat of 4, while Tsunade gets a stat of 3.5. So by facts, Hiashi has a better speed and reflexes. Get over it.

Just claiming that they will dodge or counter such a powerful air palm is simple nonsense. Tsunade may survives this thanks to her regeneration, but Mei is not debatable. Comparing it to Susanoo's punch makes no sense, as it didn't smash Mei into the ground but just punched her away. It punched Mei away 10 meters and she land on the sand which Gaara prepared to make her fall soft. And you seriously compare this to an impact which sends Juubi's huge tail 50 meters flying. Mei will end up with various broken bones. Denying it is nonsense. You have absolutely no arguments apart from the bullshit of considering her to counter an air palm with a Suiton attack.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Hiashi rapes them literally and then a wild Sasuke comes out of nowhere and brutalizes him for the lol's.

Nah, seriously, I can't see him winning this.

 

[Nattana]

Either of the Kage can solo.

 

[Apêx1]

Either of the Kage can solo.

How exactly do they win together, let alone solo?

 

[Haizaki]

Choji's technique works by converting his calories into chakra and we saw here that the Kyyubi chakra caused a massive increase as he and Kiba said

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. Naturally without it, he was around the GM Size as you can see with Choza's head(Who's about Choji's size) being on the same level with it

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and the GM is around a Bijuu's level or even bigger . Choji definitely got bigger than he usually was.

 

[Apêx1]

Choji's technique works by converting his calories into chakra and we saw here that the Kyyubi chakra caused a massive increase as he and Kiba said

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. Naturally without it, he was around the GM Size as you can see with Choza's head(Who's about Choji's size) being on the same level with it

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and the GM is around a Bijuu's level or even bigger . Choji definitely got bigger than he usually was.

Yea, this pretty much killed any argument you had EvilOne.

 

[Strict]

Hiashi should win.. U_U

Mei is one shotted with an air palm as none of the Kage supporters could prove it wrong.
Tsunade loses against Hiashi, as latter is faster and has better reflexes (Databook canon stats), rotation renders her punches useless and gentle fist manipulates her Chakra network.

Hiashi wins by feats, Tsunade and Mei by wank. U_U

 

[FemmeFatale]

LOL! Tsunade actually brings down Mei, since she can't use her boil release with her around. Hiashi shitstomps Tsunade and that cougar Mei.

Tsunade survived much worst,

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Featless boy wonder is crushed.