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TheAncientCenturion said:
Danzo's never shown to respawn beyond what, five-ten meters at most from his original position. I doubt he'd cross around and behind Hiashi with it, suddenly. Don't even think that it'd make a large difference, though. The Air Palm is a quick jutsu, he can hit Baku almost instantly once he appears or the suction starts.
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Didn't danzo get killed on the bridge and respawn on top of a stone pillar. That's a significant distance. And if you refer to danzo's speed feat against sasuke while kidnapping karin, his shunshin speed is quite fast as well. At worst he can respawn pretty near Hiashi andthen shunshin to cross the remaining distance.

Is this manga intel? If so Hiashi definitely isnt using air palm the instant its suction begins. It took Sasuke a little time while he turtled in Susanoo before he came up with the strategy of using fire style. I doubt Hiashi can perform air palm while hurtling through te air towards Baku. Or he uses rotation, which means he cant sinultaneously use air palm.
 
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beansandcornbread2 said:
Didn't danzo get killed on the bridge and respawn on top of a stone pillar. That's a significant distance. And if you refer to danzo's speed feat against sasuke while kidnapping karin, his shunshin speed is quite fast as well. At worst he can respawn pretty near Hiashi andthen shunshin to cross the remaining distance.
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Again, not the largest amount of distance covered in that. He spawned on the edge, when he wasn't that far away to begin with[
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]. Yeah, he's got not the worst shunshin, but it wasn't a spectacular distance he traveled, nor did Sasuke have his sharingan active at that point. If he wants, he can do as you say which requires the following:

  • Summon Baku
  • Activate Izanagi if it's not on/Kill himself
  • Respawn, cover the rest of the distance but avoid Baku's suction
  • Use Fuuton
Where Hiashi needs to do what, use one jutsu with both hands and throw him back? A jutsu that requires little to no build up time before hand. Yeah, I hope ya' can see why I am a bit skeptical on Baku/Danzo getting off this combo before Hiashi can do a thing.


Is this manga intel? If so Hiashi definitely isnt using air palm the instant its suction begins. It took Sasuke a little time while he turtled in Susanoo before he came up with the strategy of using fire style. I doubt Hiashi can perform air palm while hurtling through te air towards Baku. Or he uses rotation, which means he cant sinultaneously use air palm.
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It's full intel, but even if it were manga, why wouldn't Hiashi use the air palm on Baku? It's a summon that makes even Susano'o look like a shrimp, and is an added factor. I don't see a reason why Hiashi wouldn't use air palm on him at the first possible chance, which is right away. Get rid of as many enemies as quickly as you can.

I mean, it's not like Baku's going to immediately begin to suck when he comes out, nor is the air palm a technique that takes much time at all. I don't see it going too long without being hit and thrown away. Nor do I see why the air palm can't be used when the suction begins, it's literally just throwing your hands forward.
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Ey man, waters fine whenever you wanna jump on in.
 
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Danzo takes this high difficulty.

His ordinary fuuton will prove to be ineffective and the threat of his massive vacuum wall palm would force Danzo to keep using Izanagi to prevent himself from getting one shotted. Nonetheless, Izanagi gives Danzo an ample amount of time to adjust to Hiashi's fighting style much like it did against Sasuke.

Danzo will have to resort to using Baku to win this fight whose suction was strong enough to immobilize susanoo. If a strong entity like susanoo can't move in it, neither will Hiashi, thus he won't be able to rotate any longer. Danzo can suicide and spawn right behind Danzo, stabbing him with a fuuton enhanced kunai. If Hiashi can manage to somehow use vacuum palm on Baku, my point still stands because while Hiashi does that, Danzo appears behind him and stabs him. Hiashi won't be able to counter while focussing on Baku as he'll be on the offensive and will be trying his hardest not to get sucked in.
 
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TheAncientCenturion said:
Again, not the largest amount of distance covered in that. He spawned on the edge, when he wasn't that far away to begin with[
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]. Yeah, he's got not the worst shunshin, but it wasn't a spectacular distance he traveled, nor did Sasuke have his sharingan active at that point. If he wants, he can do as you say which requires the following:

  • Summon Baku
  • Activate Izanagi if it's not on/Kill himself
  • Respawn, cover the rest of the distance but avoid Baku's suction
  • Use Fuuton
Where Hiashi needs to do what, use one jutsu with both hands and throw him back? A jutsu that requires little to no build up time before hand. Yeah, I hope ya' can see why I am a bit skeptical on Baku/Danzo getting off this combo before Hiashi can do a thing.




It's full intel, but even if it were manga, why wouldn't Hiashi use the air palm on Baku? It's a summon that makes even Susano'o look like a shrimp, and is an added factor. I don't see a reason why Hiashi wouldn't use air palm on him at the first possible chance, which is right away. Get rid of as many enemies as quickly as you can.

I mean, it's not like Baku's going to immediately begin to suck when he comes out, nor is the air palm a technique that takes much time at all. I don't see it going too long without being hit and thrown away. Nor do I see why the air palm can't be used when the suction begins, it's literally just throwing your hands forward.


Ey man, waters fine whenever you wanna jump on in.
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This is a bad match up for Danzo.

-Genjutsu is counter by closing eye and use Byakugan

-Futon/projectiles are countered by rotation or repel by air palm

-Izanagi spawn countered by 360 vision

-Nearly impossible to land a hit on Hiashi due to Hyuuga experience of Taijutsu. Plus can create a wall of chakra to block any "
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That being said, Danzo's only option of victory is using Baku, and reading these comments seems like he is being heavenly underrated. Like battlestatio mentioned, the feats of Baku's suction was capable of immobilizing complete Susanoo (as it was protecting Sasuke from getting dragged in). How does one get in conclusion that Hiashi will be capable of doing better then what Susanoo can't?

The way I see it, as Hiashi best option, when getting picked up in the suction, to use air palm, which will leave him vulnerable in mid air. Even then he still will be vulnerable as much as Sasuke, except not having a proper defense to protect him.

Plus theres the fact that Baku shouldn't even be viewed as a one trick pony. Its not a Chimera for no reason. Chimera are built to use all the genes it has in his possession. I'm sure its tiger-like limbs and elephant trunk is as dangerous as of any basic summon in CQC.

Baku pressure gives Danzo the win for me.

Scenario 2: Im sure Hiashi doesn't start off with his eye's close and isn't aware that Danzo carries the Sharingan so he will be vulnerable against Genjutsu from the beginning. As they both will activate their Dojutsu, and most likely will be too late to respond.
 
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Brother Numpsay said:
This is a bad match up for Danzo.

-Genjutsu is counter by closing eye and use Byakugan

-Futon/projectiles are countered by rotation or repel by air palm

-Izanagi spawn countered by 360 vision

-Nearly impossible to land a hit on Hiashi due to Hyuuga experience of Taijutsu. Plus can create a wall of chakra to block any "
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That being said, Danzo's only option of victory is using Baku, and reading these comments seems like he is being heavenly underrated. Like battlestatio mentioned, the feats of Baku's suction was capable of immobilizing complete Susanoo (as it was protecting Sasuke from getting dragged in). How does one get in conclusion that Hiashi will be capable of doing better then what Susanoo can't?

The way I see it, as Hiashi best option, when getting picked up in the suction, to use air palm, which will leave him vulnerable in mid air. Even then he still will be vulnerable as much as Sasuke, except not having a proper defense to protect him.

Plus theres the fact that Baku shouldn't even be viewed as a one trick pony. Its not a Chimera for no reason. Chimera are built to use all the genes it has in his possession. I'm sure its tiger-like limbs and elephant trunk is as dangerous as of any basic summon in CQC.

Baku pressure gives Danzo the win for me.

Scenario 2: Im sure Hiashi doesn't start off with his eye's close and isn't aware that Danzo carries the Sharingan so he will be vulnerable against Genjutsu from the beginning. As they both will activate their Dojutsu, and most likely will be too late to respond.
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near 360 vision, Kotoamatsukami rapes.
 
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