[VS] Hiashi Hyuuga vs Mei and Tsunade

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Lol this may be true, Kabuto's chakra scapel couldnt and in a way it almost works in the same way as closing a point.

My reasoning exactly

Thats if he hits her. Jiraiya acknowledged her superiority in combat above the hyuuga

Oh no, he gets blitz like Sakura blitz neji/zesty as soon as he approached her

Mei she is immune to her acid, and all he have against it is air palm and rotation
 

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Lol this may be true, Kabuto's chakra scapel couldnt and in a way it almost works in the same way as closing a point.

Incorrect. It still got through and he was only trying to disable her rather then kill her. Not to mention Gentle Fist is far more powerful then a mere Chakra scalpel. 1 Juubi sized air palm smashes Mei and all her Futtons/Mists and her Suitons. Tsunade doesn't need to be crushed for a win.
 

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Tsunade whoop his ass

Mei whoop his ass

Together they slaughter
 

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Incorrect. It still got through and he was only trying to disable her rather then kill her. Not to mention Gentle Fist is far more powerful then a mere Chakra scalpel. 1 Juubi sized air palm smashes Mei and all her Futtons/Mists and her Suitons. Tsunade doesn't need to be crushed for a win.

The chakra scalpel uses way more chakra than the tiny bit that is used to close a point, if the larger amount of chakra used in a scalpel could hardly get throught than neither is gentle fist.

Not really, scalpel pretty much does the same damage as closing a point aside from actually touching the tenkestu.
 

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The chakra scalpel uses way more chakra than the tiny bit that is used to close a point, if the larger amount of chakra used in a scalpel could hardly get throught than neither is gentle fist.

Not really, scalpel pretty much does the same damage as closing a point aside from actually touching the tenkestu.

Um what? Based on what are the mechanics similar? They both do internal damage, but Gentle Fist is superior in every way. 0 reason to assume he can't go through any amount of flesh, especially when he can choose the amount of chakra he will exert as shown in the Juubi sized shockwave he created with the palm of his hand.
 

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An enhancement which allows Ino to run faster than Naruto? "Still"..

Ino ran faster than Naruto? When? Besides, Hinata passed out over a rock with the same enhancement...
 

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Going with the females here. Acid Mist and Katsuya will be the reason they pull out the win.
 

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The fight can start in two different ways.

1) Tsunade decides to charge at Hiashi in CQC while Mei watches her back from a distance.

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2) Tsunade decides to give her chakra to Mei and therefore decides to boost Mei's jutsus.

1) If Tsunade fights Hiashi in CQC, Hiashi would dominate Tsunade in CQC but this gives Mei the time to keep distance. Mei can easily use water pillar from underneath catching Hiashi off guard. He can see the chakra being prepared but due to the AoE of the water pillar and the short amount of time it takes for it to erupt from the ground, Hiashi won't dodge especially when he is busy engaging Tsunade in CQC. This allows Tsunade to summon Katsuyu which will envelop Hiashi.

2) Boosted jutsus from Mei easily keeps Hiashi on his tiptoes and he won't close the distance nor will he outlast Mei and Tsunade.

Can't see Hiashi winning, Mei and Tsunade win mid difficulty.
 

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The fight can start in two different ways.

1) Tsunade decides to charge at Hiashi in CQC while Mei watches her back from a distance.

OR

2) Tsunade decides to give her chakra to Mei and therefore decides to boost Mei's jutsus.

1) If Tsunade fights Hiashi in CQC, Hiashi would dominate Tsunade in CQC but this gives Mei the time to keep distance. Mei can easily use water pillar from underneath catching Hiashi off guard. He can see the chakra being prepared but due to the AoE of the water pillar and the short amount of time it takes for it to erupt from the ground, Hiashi won't dodge especially when he is busy engaging Tsunade in CQC. This allows Tsunade to summon Katsuyu which will envelop Hiashi.

2) Boosted jutsus from Mei easily keeps Hiashi on his tiptoes and he won't close the distance nor will he outlast Mei and Tsunade.

Can't see Hiashi winning, Mei and Tsunade win mid difficulty.

No boosted form of Mei's Jutsu stands any chance against air palm. Not only would Hiashi's vacuum palm no diff any and all ninjutsu, it would plow through it and one shot mei nigh instantly! That strategy gets mei killed fast.
 

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No boosted form of Mei's Jutsu stands any chance against air palm. Not only would Hiashi's vacuum palm no diff any and all ninjutsu, it would plow through it and one shot mei nigh instantly! That strategy gets mei killed fast.
How would it oneshot Mei when Tsunade is there healing her? Then there is the fact that all that suiton will soften the air pressure. Then there is the fact that the force of a vacuum palm will diminish over a longer range, the range at which a boosted Mei can easily fight.
 

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How would it oneshot Mei when Tsunade is there healing her? Then there is the fact that all that suiton will soften the air pressure. Then there is the fact that the force of a vacuum palm will diminish over a longer range, the range at which a boosted Mei can easily fight.
Lol jyuken nullifies all chakra related substance! So it wouldn't be a "force on force", it would be a eraser plowing through something that doesn't compete! And with vacuum palm be light years faster plus byakugan seeing the build up, he fires before she even opens her mouth to inhale and spit water out. It isn't wind style btw
 

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Lol jyuken nullifies all chakra related substance! So it wouldn't be a "force on force", it would be a eraser plowing through something that doesn't compete! And with vacuum palm be light years faster plus byakugan seeing the build up, he fires before she even opens her mouth to inhale and spit water out. It isn't wind style btw
Suiton having chakra doesn't mean that jyuken can completely nullify it without difficulty. Jyuuken is also made of chakra so to nullify other chakra, some of it has to be used up. If that were not the case, vacuum palm would plow through PS with no difficulty. Your eraser analogy actually proves my point. Eventually the eraser will run out.

Mei doesn't have to spit water out, water pillar erupts immediately from the ground. It requires only and managed to erupt before the katon, , could burn Tsunade. Pretty sure using a single hand seal is faster than pushing your palm forward.

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From underground a violent solid pillar of water explodes forth. In an instant hell fire is erase. Godaime Mizukage Mei Terumi activated this jutsu to perfectly block Madara's Katon Jutsu.

Byakugan seeing chakra buildup is irrelevant because the water pillar serves its purpose and it's not like vacuum palm doesn't require chakra buildup either.
 

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Suiton having chakra doesn't mean that jyuken can completely nullify it without difficulty. Jyuuken is also made of chakra so to nullify other chakra, some of it has to be used up. If that were not the case, vacuum palm would plow through PS with no difficulty. Your eraser analogy actually proves my point. Eventually the eraser will run out.

Mei doesn't have to spit water out, water pillar erupts immediately from the ground. It requires only and managed to erupt before the katon, , could burn Tsunade. Pretty sure using a single hand seal is faster than pushing your palm forward.

Suiton Suijinchuu
From underground a violent solid pillar of water explodes forth. In an instant hell fire is erase. Godaime Mizukage Mei Terumi activated this jutsu to perfectly block Madara's Katon Jutsu.

Byakugan seeing chakra buildup is irrelevant because the water pillar serves its purpose and it's not like vacuum palm doesn't require chakra buildup either.

It is manga fact Jyuken destroys chakra related Jutsu with no difficulty. Mei's water jutsu doesn't even compare to the force of the juubi so you have no point there. It is fact on Elemental ninjutsu and Chakra related substance, no disputing. Not only would He see the water from her or the ground before it is even a factor, he moves his hands at a much much much faster rate then she can move her hands to preform said jutsu. Plus she would have to wait for tsunade to get in place and aid her in that sitting duck strategy, and Hyuga's build chakra faster then mei could ever muster it up due to perfect insight and perfect chakra control.

Mei is not fast, nor can she move faster then Hyugas can move there arms. She couldn't even move faster then yet you think she is faster then Ultra high speed Vacuum palm in hand speed? lol Cool story.
 

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hiashi would win vs either mei or tsunade 1 on 1 but he doesn't quite have the versatility to beat both of them.

air palm can't hurt mei from range, in a clash or not & Tsunade can tank it any range.
katsyuu clones provide them plenty margin for error in this regard.

I believe boosted lava & water attacks can overwhelm kaiten & that air palms range is misunderstood.

I also can't see hishi winning a cqc portion of the fight simply because he is out numbered, despite his vast superiority.
''lolblitz'' is never a proper arguement in my view, but in a 2 on 1 it becomes an unacceptable one
 
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