Hiashi Hyuuga vs 3T Itachi Uchiha

[Touken]

No it's not. (._.) Itachi's has moved faster than the Sharingan can discern on multiple occasions man. Hiashi has no such feats.

Care to bring up feats? Hiashi's never fought an Uchiha but he's still landed multiple blows in the space of a few seconds and every blow is as deadly as the next.

 

[~Sky~]

Care to bring up feats? Hiashi's never fought an Uchiha but he's still landed multiple blows in the space of a few seconds and every blow is as deadly as the next.

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And he has many other Shunshin speed feats to go along with those hand speed feats.. Moving faster than the Sharingan can see is above anything we've seen from Hiashi, but mkay, he's leagues superior to Itachi in battle speed.

 

[Haizaki]

Your statement is implying he has no knowledge on the Hyuga, or that Itachi's analytical skills ain't on that level not to realize the Bykugan doesn't have a blind spot. Itachi would be easily able to create space him and Hiashi due to his superior speed and pre cog would allow him to counter Hiashi from a distance.


As for you points for the blind spot are wrong him being able to take out fodder doesn't compensate for his blind spot he hasn't show a counter to his blind spots and Itachi's shuriken would be able to hit Hiashi if aimed correctly we've seen how fatal this has been.


Aagain Itachi is no idiot and he couldn't want to go straight in to CQC his air palm would be ineffective due to pre cog would allow him to see the palm thrust movement before it even happens. At range Hiashi is a sitting duck for Itachi. As for the shuriken argument that won't matter if they come at a distance he wouldn't be able to see them if you hit the blind spot. Due to the new no restrictions ama easily takes out Hiashi. ​

If there are no restrictions then itachi wins due to his ms..and amaterasu doesn't take hiashi down..gentle fist one body blow should be able to blast it away similar to what shinra tensei did..but itachi would win against hiashi with his ms.
as for the shurikens, hiashi should be able to react fast enough to defend against it, but him knowing where it comes from is the problem..neji back then was slower and definitely not as strong as hiashi..also hiashi can definitely see further than 10 km and 800m(hinata and neji is shippuden)..so he should have less problem detecting it.

 

[shelke]

Itachi wins. His mastery over Shuriken-Jutsu - Below Sasuke's *W* - has shown repeatedly how he can deal with Blind spots. He took out Rinnegan's eyes in the summons during his fight with Nagato as well. In CQC, matching an Uchiha would be highly problematic. He's pretty damn fast with his clones as well, as Sasuke with a Superior Sharingan couldn't detect them, when Sasuke has never faltered in this front, other than this one time - *w*

I'm afraid Itachi wins. His Great Fireball technique tore through the ground and Kaiten has a cool down period. Itachi can close the gap and use the technique again. Hiashi has no perticular speed feats. Even Kakashi barely dodged it, when he was standing several feet away. It shouldn't have been impossible for Sasuke though. *W*

Itachi takes this mid difference.

Hyuuga wank is probably worst than Minato wank. At least with the latter the character has plot relevance.

I wouldn't go that far; Minato wank is disgusting.

 

[Touken]

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And he has many other Shunshin speed feats to go along with those hand speed feats.. Moving faster than the Sharingan can see is above anything we've seen from Hiashi, but mkay, he's leagues superior to Itachi in battle speed.

What? Executing fast hand signs doesn't compare to combat speed. Can Itachi throw a punch as fast as he weaves hand seals? That's something completely different.

 

[~Sky~]

What? Executing fast hand signs doesn't compare to combat speed. Can Itachi throw a punch as fast as he weaves hand seals? That's something completely different.

Oh sure, weaving hand seals faster than the Sharingan can perceive is absolutely no indication of hand speed.

 

[Touken]

Oh sure, weaving hand seals faster than the Sharingan can perceive is absolutely no indication of hand speed.

Itachi still isn't throwing a punch as fast as he weaves hand seals. He didn't against Kakashi. He didn't against Itachi.

 

[~Sky~]

Itachi still isn't throwing a punch as fast as he weaves hand seals. He didn't against Kakashi. He didn't against Itachi.

You say that like it makes a difference.

Restrict this to a pure taijutsu battle where Itachi can fight with nothing except Taijutsu and you may have a point.

 

[Touken]

You say that like it makes a difference.

Restrict this to a pure taijutsu battle where Itachi can fight with nothing except Taijutsu and you may have a point.

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That's what I was talking about in the first place. I made that comment after AGoodBoy stated Itachi would wreck Hiashi in a Taijutsu fight.

 

[~Sky~]

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That's what I was talking about in the first place. I made that comment after AGoodBoy stated Itachi would wreck Hiashi in a Taijutsu fight.

Mkay. My mistake.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

If there are no restrictions then itachi wins due to his ms..and amaterasu doesn't take hiashi down..gentle fist one body blow should be able to blast it away similar to what shinra tensei did..but itachi would win against hiashi with his ms.
as for the shurikens, hiashi should be able to react fast enough to defend against it, but him knowing where it comes from is the problem..neji back then was slower and definitely not as strong as hiashi..also hiashi can definitely see further than 10 km and 800m(hinata and neji is shippuden)..so he should have less problem detecting it.

You can't compare rotation to ST, also I doubt Hiashi would be able to act that quick due to the pain he would be in.


Hiashi has no such reaction feat to show he would be able to react to them, also it doesn't matter if he can see further the Byakugan in general has that blind-spot if Itachi uses his shuriken techinque it's game over.​

 

[Haizaki]

You can't compare rotation to ST, also I doubt Hiashi would be able to act that quick due to the pain he would be in.


Hiashi has no such reaction feat to show he would be able to react to them, also it doesn't matter if he can see further the Byakugan in general has that blind-spot if Itachi uses his shuriken techinque it's game over.​

Didn't compare rotation and ST...I said Gentle fist : One body blow should be able to blast amaterasu from hiashi similar to how ST did for nagato

 

[Draegod]

Hiashi wins. Didn't even know this thread got revived. lmao

 

[Prince Charles]

Hiashi wins. Didn't even know this thread got revived. lmao

owarij's argument sounded pretty convincing.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Didn't compare rotation and ST...I said Gentle fist : One body blow should be able to blast amaterasu from hiashi similar to how ST did for nagato

But it wouldn't.​

 

[Draegod]

owarij's argument sounded pretty convincing.

That is because neither you nor him know anything about the hyugas. If you did you would know Rotation does not work like he stated. And would Know Heavenly spin does not translate to Hakke Kuushou. lmmfao hahahahahahahaha I'll school you all one time.

People are failing to consider Itachi's body flicker speed here. Yes byakugan will allow him to see Itachi, but that doesn't matter does it?

There is a more than just a chance for Itachi considering his kunai skills. People are greatly underestimating this prodigy.

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We already know the weaknesses of they heavenly rotation. It's speed. It doesnt matter if they see the attack coming with they overly large radius of vision. If they can't REACT to it fast enough. they're dead

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Now the sharingan and the Byakugan have this weakness in common

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As I already showed, both Neji and hinato were unable to react fast enough to activate their rotation when the juubi let out its needles


To summarise. Byakugan has two weaknesses, Speed and Its BlindSpot. Two weaknesses Itachi is potentially a master of exploting.
Meaning he can either stay from afar and barrage Hiashi with thousdands of kunai (similar to his throwout with sasuke), and send a few aiming at the blindspot of byakugan, if and when he notices it , which he will.
Or he can approach this physically and get close.

Before people get their panties in a bunch. According to the databook, Hiashi's speed is only a mere 4. putting him below ALOT, of ninjas, even Neji.


And to end it, Byakugan simply will allow Hiashi to see in a nice wide range. Sharingan has its unique ability of precognition in battle.

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Unfortunately, Itachi was able to take out 3 mature 3 tomoe Police force Sharingan users all before they could even react with his speed. There would be nothing hiashi could do at that point.

If more info is required on how fast Itachi is

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1. Rotation is NOT Vaccum palm/kUUSHOU. Halve your argument was debunked with the fact you thought that. Plus the fact you did not know Hinato does not have nor know Rotaion.... lol Moving on.

2. You forget to list the fact All hyuga's know their

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Basically the "blind spot" claim is 100% out the window! plus the fact itachi doesn't even have the aresanal to expose and defeat that blind spot "THAT PARTICULAR BYUKUGAN" HAD. Neji in part 2 range wasnt a mear 50 meters any more. haha Unless itachi blah blah (magically) goes beyond 500 meters and attempt to find a moving hyugas blind spot... lol You get my drift! This is what A hyuga of neji's level see's when his byakugan is activated:

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And Hiashi's range is god levels beyond any other hyuga ever shown! Speed isn't the weakness and nothing shown has been fast enough that they cannot burst chakra out of their body then spin. And since it is from their body it is similar to the speed of susanoo (in pokemon it's priority would be Detect or Protect).

3. Byakugan allows them to detect and sense every moving thing accurately the moment it happens. Byakugan also allos one to see any and all chakra build up before it even happens to the ninja. Shunshin is a ninjutsu that uses chakra (manga fact), Hiashi easily see's it before it happens. Sharigan cannot predict chakra nor something that can happen last second or is un orthodox. Hyugas out class them in taijutsu it isn't even funny. Lets say Itachi dodges a standard punch from Hiashi; the moment after is ear/face is instanly blasted by a shit load of chakra that will instantly pin point a chakra sourse thus possibly deactivating his Sharingan (lets pretend it wouldn't though). Basically they would'nt even need 64 divinity, when there instant chakra would come from no where when ever they please.

So in short no matter how fast they are at dodging or striking, they have a way to combat it. And with hiashi no speed feat shown is beyond his eyes unfortunately (unless it is massively hyper sonic aka Beyond DBZ and bleach levels)

And I can use hiashi destroying fodders no diff as well if you wanna use hype on no names. Uchihas of that level got owned through the manga by fodders. Itachi is wayyyyy above them so it is nothing to brag about. And btw sharingan does not grant them immunity to taijutsu as seen through the manga.

 

[Haizaki]

That is because neither you nor him know anything about the hyugas. If you did you would know Rotation does not work like he stated. And would Know Heavenly spin does not translate to Hakke Kuushou. lmmfao hahahahahahahaha I'll school you all one time.





1. Rotation is NOT Vaccum palm/kUUSHOU. Halve your argument was debunked with the fact you thought that. Plus the fact you did not know Hinato does not have nor know Rotaion.... lol Moving on.

2. You forget to list the fact All hyuga's know their

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Basically the "blind spot" claim is 100% out the window! plus the fact itachi doesn't even have the aresanal to expose and defeat that blind spot "THAT PARTICULAR BYUKUGAN" HAD. Neji in part 2 range wasnt a mear 50 meters any more. haha Unless itachi blah blah (magically) goes beyond 500 meters and attempt to find a moving hyugas blind spot... lol You get my drift! This is what A hyuga of neji's level see's when his byakugan is activated:

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And Hiashi's range is god levels beyond any other hyuga ever shown! Speed isn't the weakness and nothing shown has been fast enough that they cannot burst chakra out of their body then spin. And since it is from their body it is similar to the speed of susanoo (in pokemon it's priority would be Detect or Protect).

3. Byakugan allows them to detect and sense every moving thing accurately the moment it happens. Byakugan also allos one to see any and all chakra build up before it even happens to the ninja. Shunshin is a ninjutsu that uses chakra (manga fact), Hiashi easily see's it before it happens. Sharigan cannot predict chakra nor something that can happen last second or is un orthodox. Hyugas out class them in taijutsu it isn't even funny. Lets say Itachi dodges a standard punch from Hiashi; the moment after is ear/face is instanly blasted by a shit load of chakra that will instantly pin point a chakra sourse thus possibly deactivating his Sharingan (lets pretend it wouldn't though). Basically they would'nt even need 64 divinity, when there instant chakra would come from no where when ever they please.

So in short no matter how fast they are at dodging or striking, they have a way to combat it. And with hiashi no speed feat shown is beyond his eyes unfortunately (unless it is massively hyper sonic aka Beyond DBZ and bleach levels)

And I can use hiashi destroying fodders no diff as well if you wanna use hype on no names. Uchihas of that level got owned through the manga by fodders. Itachi is wayyyyy above them so it is nothing to brag about. And btw sharingan does not grant them immunity to taijutsu as seen through the manga.

^^This^^...some guy even said itachi beats hiashi in cqc...LOOL

 

[Prince Charles]

That is because neither you nor him know anything about the hyugas. If you did you would know Rotation does not work like he stated. And would Know Heavenly spin does not translate to Hakke Kuushou. lmmfao hahahahahahahaha I'll school you all one time.

I mean I never said I agree with him but your argument sounds convincing as well for the matter, but congratulation on knowing more about a anime character than me

 

[Draegod]

I mean I never said I agree with him but your argument sounds convincing as well for the matter, but congratulation on knowing more about a anime character than me

I made that comment because you tip ride any one who disagree's with me. It gets old bruh

Sounds like you're in your feelings bro. Not that serious. haha

 

[Prince Charles]

I made that comment because you tip ride any one who disagree's with me. It gets old bruh

Sounds like you're in your feelings bro. Not that serious. haha

I said the niga's argument sounds convincing, that automatically means im tip riding -____-

and no one takes this serious, as soon as a hyuuga is mentioned you go all preach mode, like niga calm down

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