Hiashi and Orochimaru vs Itachi and Hinata

[madvictory]

So who'd win? Team 1, or team 2 and why?

Location: Where Nagato and Itachi fought Naruto and Bee
Restrictions: Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror.

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[HiddenSound]

If it's current Orochimaru, team 1. Hinayana is a non-factor.

 

[LustyLover]

If it's current Orochimaru, team 1. Hinayana is a non-factor.

Itachi has KA and Oro has no ET due to Itachi's ability to undo the jutsu. Team 2 takes it.

 

[Draegod]

Itachi has KA and Oro has no ET due to Itachi's ability to undo the jutsu. Team 2 takes it.

Itachi cannot use KA! Only scrubs and noobs seem to think this! lmmfao Fact of the manga!

 

[TheEvilOne]

Itachi solos with low-mid difficulty.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi cannot use KA! Only scrubs and noobs seem to think this! lmmfao Fact of the manga!

?_? If everyone here is at their prime, yes he can.


Even if it gets restricted, Itachi can still undo Edo Tensei. Hiashi and Oro will both get one shotted by Tsukuyomi.

 

[HiddenSound]

Itachi has KA and Oro has no ET due to Itachi's ability to undo the jutsu. Team 2 takes it.

Kotoamatsukami is really the only way Itachi can win.
Genjutsu won't work on current Orochimaru.
Ninjutsu is ineffective.
And Susano'o without Totsuka isn't putting down Orochimaru.

 

[LustyLover]

Kotoamatsukami is really the only way Itachi can win.
Genjutsu won't work on current Orochimaru.
Ninjutsu is ineffective.
And Susano'o without Totsuka isn't putting down Orochimaru.

How is he resistant to Genjutsu again?

 

[Draegod]

?_? If everyone here is at their prime, yes he can.


Even if it gets restricted, Itachi can still undo Edo Tensei. Hiashi and Oro will both get one shotted by Tsukuyomi.

In his "prime" KA had to rest TEN YEARS!!!!! He literally stated it couldn't have been used PERIOD!!!

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SO basically I'll break it down for you:

Shisui used his KA before he died and gave his eye to itachi.
Itachi while in possession of his Eye had to wait 10 years to even have the MS active again.
Itachi knew this, and that is why he planned and gave it to Naruto (knowing he was about to die to sasuke)

When itachi was alive (not edo) KA was not active and he couldn't use it in his "prime" based on the manga and Itachi himself! Please tell me you get it now.

 

[LustyLover]

In his "prime" KA had to rest TEN YEARS!!!!! He literally stated it couldn't have been used PERIOD!!!

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SO basically I'll break it down for you:

Shisui used his KA before he died and gave his eye to itachi.
Itachi while in possession of his Eye had to wait 10 years to even have the MS active again.
Itachi knew this, and that is why he planned and gave it to Naruto (knowing he was about to die to sasuke)

When itachi was alive (not edo) KA was not active and he couldn't use it in his "prime" based on the manga and Itachi himself! Please tell me you get it now.

When did Shisui use KA before he gave Itachi his eye? Show me scans of that please. That's pretty inaccurate, seeing as how when KA is activated, the Sharingan goes back to 3T. When he gave Itachi his eye, it was in MS form. He couldn't of used KA.

 

[Strict]

In his "prime" KA had to rest TEN YEARS!!!!! He literally stated it couldn't have been used PERIOD!!!

He programmed Kotoamatsukami for plot's sake. But it's still his ability. Shisui gave Itachi his eye so he can decide to use his on his purpose. It's definitely his ability.

Itachi solos.

 

[Draegod]

When did Shisui use KA before he gave Itachi his eye? Show me scans of that please. That's pretty inaccurate, seeing as how when KA is activated, the Sharingan goes back to 3T. When he gave Itachi his eye, it was in MS form. He couldn't of used KA.

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He literally stated he used KA. That was before the events. Itachi died at age 21, ten years before would be 11 years of age around Shusi's death wellllll before the massacre. Plus the fact Itachi literally mentions he couldn't have used it! Fact of the manga no disputing! Use common sense now, if itachi had KA alive why not use it on Tobi/Nagato to save the ninja world?

He programmed Kotoamatsukami for plot's sake. But it's still his ability. Shisui gave Itachi his eye so he can decide to use his on his purpose. It's definitely his ability.

Itachi solos.

If ten years past then yes! Otherwise it is just an extra sharingan. Their is no denying manga facts that itachi Stated he couldn't have used KA until the ten years had pass. Their is nothing to discuss, only desperate or retarded uchiha fans will deny the manga facts. Are you denying the manga facts my dude?

 

[Haizaki]

Team 1 takes this

No Totsuka, No Yata?....Hinata gets knocked out quickly and Hiashi joins Oro in taking down Itachi

 

[Strict]

You forget that this is a vs thread; the combatants techniques aren't restricted by plot, they fight with anything they have. You wouldn't restrict Shisui's KA in a battle as well, as well as you wouldn't restrict Danzo's Izanagi in vs threads despite it's a one shot technique. Once Danzo used Izanagi, he loses his Sharingan and that move is restricted. That's for plot's sake, but not for vs threads. A little longer, and the interval would have passed. This is a vs thread, and here, Itachi possesses the eye.

Itachi with KA > unrestricted Team 1 > Itachi > Team 1 without Edo Tensei.

 

[HiddenSound]

How is he resistant to Genjutsu again?

He's a sensor now. He doesn't need to look at Itachi to know where he is. Plus, his Senju DNA May have boosted his already existinant Genjutsu resistance. I'm not saying Orochimaru > Tsukuyomi, but he's not an idiot. He won't be looking at Itachi.

 

[HiddenSound]

How is he resistant to Genjutsu again?

He's a sensor now. He doesn't need to look at Itachi to know where he is. Plus, his Senju DNA May have boosted his already existinant Genjutsu resistance. I'm not saying Orochimaru > Tsukuyomi, but he's not an idiot. He won't be looking at Itachi.

 

[Draegod]

You forget that this is a vs thread; the combatants techniques aren't restricted by plot, they fight with anything they have. You wouldn't restrict Shisui's KA in a battle as well, as well as you wouldn't restrict Danzo's Izanagi in vs threads despite it's a one shot technique. Once Danzo used Izanagi, he loses his Sharingan and that move is restricted. That's for plot's sake, but not for vs threads. A little longer, and the interval would have passed. This is a vs thread, and here, Itachi possesses the eye.

Itachi with KA > unrestricted Team 1 > Itachi > Team 1 without Edo Tensei.

Fact is:

1. Itachi has never shown KA ever!
2. Itachi has never used KA whiel alive
3. Itachi couldn't use KA in his "prime"

With the facts, for itachi t o use KA he would either have to have been able to use it while alive (whether he showed it or not, he couldn't use it while alive, manga facts). Plus the fact he said he already programmed it to "Save konaha" when it seen his own eyes. So their are too many variables to say he cannot use KA! Since it is afact it wasn't even availiable to him while in the manga alive (like ever, it wasn't even an option).

That is not the same with Danzo or Shisui. They actually used it while alive and in the manga. That is fact! You cannot make up and change manga facts. It isn't even hinted he could use it while alive or dead (since when dead it was inside naruto). So unless he fights naruto in edo form, it isn't being activated.

Basically even in vs threads, at the very least it has to be hinted that they can use something for it to even be viable. Itachi literally could not use KA ever! That is fact! When it was able to be used, Shisui used it already and he had it, so that takes away any thought itachi using it while alive or in "prime".

Do you not take manga into consideration at all when debating? If not, what do you go off of?

 

[Optimistic]

Give itachi a different teammate.

 

[LustyLover]

He's a sensor now. He doesn't need to look at Itachi to know where he is. Plus, his Senju DNA May have boosted his already existinant Genjutsu resistance. I'm not saying Orochimaru > Tsukuyomi, but he's not an idiot. He won't be looking at Itachi.

Just because he's a sensor doesn't mean he has resistance to Genjutsu. Itachi is the best Genjutsu user in the whole series. He'll find a way. He always does. He already did it to Oro when he was 13.

 

[LustyLover]

Fact is:

1. Itachi has never shown KA ever!
2. Itachi has never used KA whiel alive
3. Itachi couldn't use KA in his "prime"

With the facts, for itachi t o use KA he would either have to have been able to use it while alive (whether he showed it or not, he couldn't use it while alive, manga facts). Plus the fact he said he already programmed it to "Save konaha" when it seen his own eyes. So their are too many variables to say he cannot use KA! Since it is afact it wasn't even availiable to him while in the manga alive (like ever, it wasn't even an option).

That is not the same with Danzo or Shisui. They actually used it while alive and in the manga. That is fact! You cannot make up and change manga facts. It isn't even hinted he could use it while alive or dead (since when dead it was inside naruto). So unless he fights naruto in edo form, it isn't being activated.

Basically even in vs threads, at the very least it has to be hinted that they can use something for it to even be viable. Itachi literally could not use KA ever! That is fact! When it was able to be used, Shisui used it already and he had it, so that takes away any thought itachi using it while alive or in "prime".

Do you not take manga into consideration at all when debating? If not, what do you go off of?

I'm not gonna bother responding to something so stupid when Strict already did.

You forget that this is a vs thread; the combatants techniques aren't restricted by plot, they fight with anything they have. You wouldn't restrict Shisui's KA in a battle as well, as well as you wouldn't restrict Danzo's Izanagi in vs threads despite it's a one shot technique. Once Danzo used Izanagi, he loses his Sharingan and that move is restricted. That's for plot's sake, but not for vs threads. A little longer, and the interval would have passed. This is a vs thread, and here, Itachi possesses the eye.

Itachi with KA > unrestricted Team 1 > Itachi > Team 1 without Edo Tensei.