Help me understand tobi and obito

[TheWillofFire]

Guys im a little confused
You guys seem sure that tobi is obito, if thats the case can you clear some stuff for me? Just confusing for me



Tobi claimed to be madara he told to naruto that he can see great senju in him
Theres no way obito can claim that naruto has senju like hashirama, and be obitos concious

But thats how i see it, how would you explain obitos thoughts here? You really think obito knows senju like hashirama dwells in naruto?

 

[Simple Math]

Obito even knew everything about so6p.. so sure

 

[Sasske]

the half of obito´s body is a artificial body of hashirama SENJU. of course he can see it in naruto ..

 

[TheWillofFire]

Lol...no obito did not know that either he barely just knows hes in hell

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Anyone who talked to madara and became his disciple knows everything. I wouldn't be surprised about any fact he knows.

 

[TheWillofFire]

the half of obito´s body is a artificial body of hashirama SENJU. of course he can see it in naruto ..

So you tellin me obito can make a hashirama reference thanks to his senju dna and naruto? But tobi even said hashirama was his best friend, not obitos
Is senju dna also tellin obito that hashi was a good friend of his?

 

[GiantShuriken]

Its a plot hole. Tobi was originally supposed to be Madara up to a certain point, then Kishi for whatever reason decided to throw a twist and make it Obito instead.

 

[xjimbox]

The tobi zetsu clone fuses with obito that's what I think so the clone gained knowledge from madara so I feel like the knowledge was gains through that. And the zetsu clone come from the gedo statues which has hashi DNA

 

[TheWillofFire]

Anyone who talked to madara and became his disciple knows everything. I wouldn't be surprised about any fact he knows.

Madara and tobi are one in the same knowlege yes
They both synced to gedo, there lies their common knowlegde
Madaras mentor is obitos mentor, gedo

 

[Simple Math]

Its a plot hole. Tobi was originally supposed to be Madara up to a certain point, then Kishi for whatever reason decided to throw a twist and make it Obito instead.

that doesnt make sense.. if obito was supposed to be madara, then explain the space time/kamui dimension from the beginning of shippuden?

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Madara and tobi are one in the same knowlege yes
They both synced to gedo, there lies there common knowlegde

I don't know if gedo holds memories lol, but I do know that Madara told stuff to obito/tobi. So.

 

[TheWillofFire]

Its a plot hole. Tobi was originally supposed to be Madara up to a certain point, then Kishi for whatever reason decided to throw a twist and make it Obito instead.

Exactly thank you!!!
I have the answer for this plot hole.....

 

[itootchi]

Its a plot hole. Tobi was originally supposed to be Madara up to a certain point, then Kishi for whatever reason decided to throw a twist and make it Obito instead.

thats not quite how it worked. im sure kishi will explain that madara wanted obito to use his name because its known and feared. they even explained it, they said that madara is more than a name itself.

 

[Sasske]

So you tellin me obito can make a hashirama reference thanks to his senju dna and naruto? But tobi even said hashirama was his best friend, not obitos
Is senju dna also tellin obito that hashi was a good friend of his?

yeah ... artificial body of senju hashirama.... zetsu is made of hashi´s dna ... zetsu = the best friend of Obito/tobi . he also could lie IDK we will find out

 

[TheWillofFire]

Its a plot hole. Tobi was originally supposed to be Madara up to a certain point, then Kishi for whatever reason decided to throw a twist and make it Obito instead.

Thank you, i agree this is a plot hole
And i have just the thing to fill it up...

 

[JojocIaw]

Well if you follow within reason, Obito knows what he knows credit to Madara. Madara is quite knowledgeable as was his now deceased rival, Hashirama. Don't forget that the Tablet in the Uchiha Sanctuary contains some information to which we are not privy to. I would deduce no less that some information about the S06Ps is contained there as well. Also remember that Tobi (Obito) visited the Shrine but was spotted by Itachi. Information as a whole is not hard to obtain irregardless of technology or not. You just have to know how to talk to people and be able to persuade them to which Tobi seems to be really good at.

 

[TheWillofFire]

thats not quite how it worked. im sure kishi will explain that madara wanted obito to use his name because its known and feared. they even explained it, they said that madara is more than a name itself.

Kishi will explain that obito went under the name of madara
Because madara and obito share the same knowledge

 

[itootchi]

Kishi will explain that obito went under the name of madara
Because madara and obito share the same knowledge

okay weren't you confused about this? i don't think you still understand..

 

[SilverSlick]

Zetsu...........

 

[Zerofnaruto]

that doesnt make sense.. if obito was supposed to be madara, then explain the space time/kamui dimension from the beginning of shippuden?

IKR? It makes no sense.... Madura, as we already know by the manga, is not tobi.... its obito, and always has been, get over the fact that you were wrong like the rest "but obito isn't tobi!" people, seroiusly common sence at this point for a naruto fan... Also, madura dosn't have space-time justu/kamui lol, or at least, has never seen using it or heard him using it.... Also, obito obvosly gained knowlege by madura or the zetzus..... beucase you seriously think he knew about it already? lol? Did you know that the Senju's are related to the uzamakis? but only that.... so it might be possible that obito spoted it... I don't think it has much signifigant value anyways....