Hebi vs Orochimaru

Who wins?

  • HEBI

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Orochimaru alone solos

    Votes: 4 50.0%
  • Orochimaru with Manda and weak Edo-Hiruzen and Edo-Tobirama

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Total voters
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madvictory

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So it's basically all of Hebi: Sasuke (Hebi), Karin, Suigetsu and Jugo vs UNSEALED Orochimaru (it was stated by Suigetsu that Sasuke only beat Orochimaru because he was really sick and had his hands sealed.

Restrictions: Kirin, no Manda for Sasuke, Orochimaru can only summon the weak version of Hashirama and Tobirama we saw against Hiruzen. Orochimaru also has access to all his summonings.


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Note: OROCHIMARU AIN'T GONNA PLAY LIKE HE DID AGAINST THE 4 TAILS (whom he fought against with his hands sealed).
 

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how is the team going to seal the edo ? does hebi win if they manage to kill oro regardless of whether the edos are still present ?
 

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Remember the weak Edo-Hashirama and Edo-Tobirama that fought against Hiruzen? Well, those 2 could distract and go toe-to-toe against Suigetsu and Juugo. Manda would then kill those 2 when they were distracted, and Karin would get stomped by Orochimaru. Then, it would be Sasuke vs Orochimaru, basically. That's my opinion, but who knows, maybe if Suigetsu used his Giant-Demon Fish (which tanked the Hachibi and his TBB), he would kill Manda.
 
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how is the team going to seal the edo ? does hebi win if they manage to kill oro regardless of whether the edos are still present ?
Yes, if they kill Orochimaru, the Edos will disappear.
 

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No sealing jutsu...no way for Hebi to win.
Anyway, I think Orochimaru wins, Edo Tensei or not.
 

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I'd say Orochimaru mid-high diff. Like you said those Edos will preoccupy the other two and it'll be Hebi Sauce vs. Oro. Oro's just better.
 

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Oro wins imo. Sasuke's Genjutsu is leagues below Itachi's and Oro isn't falling for it.
 

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Orochimaru doesn't need Edo Tensei to win.
 

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Orochimaru loses he has no counter for Genjutsu. Honestly CM2 Juugo should be able to take on that version of Edo Tobirama with the utter most ease since he only has that water slicing suiton tech. Suigetsu and Karin should be able to find off Hashirama. Hebi wins extreme high diff.
 

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Orochimaru loses he has no counter for Genjutsu. Honestly CM2 Juugo should be able to take on that version of Edo Tobirama with the utter most ease since he only has that water slicing suiton tech. Suigetsu and Karin should be able to find off Hashirama. Hebi wins extreme high diff.

Sasuke's Genjutsu is ineffective against Orochimaru.


And against the Edos, it's a losing battle. No Sealing Jutsu.
 

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Orochimaru wins mid diff without ET.
 

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Sasuke's Genjutsu is ineffective against Orochimaru.


And against the Edos, it's a losing battle. No Sealing Jutsu.
What did that scan prove? There only there so they can stall while Sasuke takes Orochimaru out.
 

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What did that scan prove? There only there so they can stall while Sasuke takes Orochimaru out.
Sasuke cast a Genjutsu on Orochimaru. Orochimaru broke it like a twig.
Hebi Sasuke already admitted inferiority to Orochimaru. And Suigetsu agreed with them.
 

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Sasuke cast a Genjutsu on Orochimaru. Orochimaru broke it like a twig.
Hebi Sasuke already admitted inferiority to Orochimaru. And Suigetsu agreed with them.
Admitting inferior doesn't mean anything in a vs section. Feats is all that matters. Where in that scan is Orochimaru in a genjutsu is there something im missing? Also Kishi does that alot and what i mean by that is making victors of battle say they would have lost. Examples- Pain vs Jiraiya Sasuke vs Orochimaru etc...
 

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Orochimaru wins edos or not.
 

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Admitting inferior doesn't mean anything in a vs section. Feats is all that matters. Where in that scan is Orochimaru in a genjutsu is there something im missing? Also Kishi does that alot and what i mean by that is making victors of battle say they would have lost. Examples- Pain vs Jiraiya Sasuke vs Orochimaru etc...
Maybe it's clearer in the anime.

Go to 11:04.
 

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Admitting inferior doesn't mean anything in a vs section. Feats is all that matters. Where in that scan is Orochimaru in a genjutsu is there something im missing? Also Kishi does that alot and what i mean by that is making victors of battle say they would have lost. Examples- Pain vs Jiraiya Sasuke vs Orochimaru etc...

It is confusing if you don't know the type of genjutsu Sasuke used. The Genjutsu he used is suppose to stop movement completely, yet oru in an instant no diff on his death bed broke it as if it wasn't even cast. Even when Itachi used it Oru was playing and about to break it.

Basically that genjutsu is sasuke's only hope (from feats), the other versions of genjutsu are disspelled with "Genjutsu release" because of how weak they are. unless sasuke keeps them close to reality as possible, and even then sasuke doesn't have a way to kill oru.
 

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Oro wins this obviously
 
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