Hebi vs Kisame

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Intel: Manga

Intent: Kill
 

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Kisame dies a bad death.
 

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Honestly going to go with Kisame here.
If he avoids getting hit by a Genjutsu he wins, seeing as Sasuke is the only real threat here, and he can beat him in a one-on-one.
 

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Kisame rips this guy into pieces... 0_o

The over zealous akatsuki member has been taking out jinchuurikis left and right.

He soloed Roshi and Hachibi who was losing until Ay showed up.

Even MS Sasuke no Susanoo needed help taking out Hachibi.
(which ended with the ultimate deceit)
 

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Kisame rips this guy into pieces... 0_o

The over zealous akatsuki member has been taking out jinchuurikis left and right.

He soloed Roshi and Hachibi who was losing until Ay showed up.

Even MS Sasuke no Susanoo needed help taking out Hachibi.
(which ended with the ultimate deceit)

Essentially this. Even before Bee went Hachibi mode on team Taka, Sasuke was getting himself wrecked left and right even with the aid of his formidable team. Kisame on the other hand was defeating Killer Bee without a whole lot of struggle. Match ups are match ups, but Kisames in a whole different league if we compare both fights. Sasukes only saving grace is genjutsu, which is still iffy.
 

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Essentially this. Even before Bee went Hachibi mode on team Taka, Sasuke was getting himself wrecked left and right even with the aid of his formidable team. Kisame on the other hand was defeating Killer Bee without a whole lot of struggle. Match ups are match ups, but Kisames in a whole different league if we compare both fights. Sasukes only saving grace is genjutsu, which is still iffy.

We gonna be turning up on 2 threads bruh.

- You know B never resorted to his sword dance against Kisame? He didn't fully transform against him as well.

- Sasuke wasn't at his best. Not using that as an excuse but he still tried considering B only hit him while throwing throwing his sword at him.


Kisame has nothing in this match that would deal with Hebi together. Especially with Manda around and Sasuke use of the Curse mark.
 

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We gonna be turning up on 2 threads bruh.

- You know B never resorted to his sword dance against Kisame? He didn't fully transform against him as well.

- Sasuke wasn't at his best. Not using that as an excuse but he still tried considering B only hit him while throwing throwing his sword at him.


Kisame has nothing in this match that would deal with Hebi together. Especially with Manda around and Sasuke use of the Curse mark.

Well shit were always debating on the same side it seems, so fk it, let's get it.

Kisame is way too much of a brute for that sword dance to be as effective as it was on Sasuke. One simple swing with Samehada far reach would disrupt that dance or force Bee to fall back. Kisame can take being stabbed multiple times like it's nothing. Not to mention, his healing capabilities. Bee never using that tactic on Kisame doesn't make a slightest difference. And I'm aware Bee never transformed, that's why I specifically said in my post even before Bee went Hachibi mode, he was shitting on team Taka.

V1 & V2 still would of been too much for Sasuke anyways. His raiton and Katons wouldn't penetrate/be effective and he knew he couldn't take Bee head on in either in these forms; which is why he resulted in using genjutsu, which backfired as well.

Lol, throw up some arguments then. I'll counter everything Hebi Sasuke has to offer. Manda? Lol. Try it.
 

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Kisame low difficulty. Come at me.
 

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Well shit were always debating on the same side it seems, so fk it, let's get it.

Kisame is way too much of a brute for that sword dance to be as effective as it was on Sasuke. One simple swing with Samehada far reach would disrupt that dance or force Bee to fall back. Kisame can take being stabbed multiple times like it's nothing. Not to mention, his healing capabilities. Bee never using that tactic on Kisame doesn't make a slightest difference. And I'm aware Bee never transformed, that's why I specifically said in my post even before Bee went Hachibi mode, he was shitting on team Taka.

V1 & V2 still would of been too much for Sasuke anyways. His raiton and Katons wouldn't penetrate/be effective and he knew he couldn't take Bee head on in either in these forms; which is why he resulted in using genjutsu, which backfired as well.

Lol, throw up some arguments then. I'll counter everything Hebi Sasuke has to offer. Manda? Lol. Try it.


Haha true bro. I'll agree Kisame wins if he can take out Manda but his durability is why I doubt Kisame can win. Btw Sasuke can take flight as well with his wings and leave Kisame's range.
 
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Kisame uses the water dome , then Suigetsu becomes the dome.
 

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Sasuke solos

Ancient,FT, i want yall to come at me sideways

reasons why -

Speed goes to sasuke my a margin

Genjutsu shark skin will not be so quick to react

Curse mark negates Absorbing chakra

Manda swims underground if Sasuke's ever caught in Water dome

Kirin > WSB and kills Kisame
 

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Haha true bro. I'll agree Kisame wins if he can take out Manda but his durability is why I doubt Kisame can win. Btw Sasuke can take flight as well with his wings and leave Kisame's range.

But what does Manda to do Kisame? Worst case scenario, Manda swallows Kisame whole, as that's what snakes due [ ] Okay, then what? Kisame isn't getting digested right away; seeing as Naruto didn't and the Kin and Gin bros lived and fed off Kuramas insides for two whole weeks. So just like Naruto was able to himself out, Kisame should have no problem doing the same by spewing out an entire lake within Mandas stomach. That's all under the assumption that Kisame even get's swallowed, which I find unlikely, as a slower Tsunade was able to contend with Mandas speed with a giant sword in her hand. A bunch of shark summons should be able to inflict enough pain for Manda to poof back. That or the time limit. Manda isn't an issue here at all.

I don't see what's flying going to accomplish. None of Sasukes jutsu are going to do anything to Kisame barring sharingan genjutsu and karin, which are both unlikely to successfully work.

Sasuke solos

Ancient,FT, i want yall to come at me sideways

reasons why -

Speed goes to sasuke my a margin

Genjutsu shark skin will not be so quick to react

Curse mark negates Absorbing chakra

Manda swims underground if Sasuke's ever caught in Water dome

Kirin > WSB and kills Kisame

-Kisame's reaction and body reflexes > V1 Killer Bee. That's enough to handle Sasukes speed.

-If anyone understands the method of avoiding Sharingan genjutsu the best; it's Kisame. He has had to of witnessed the means Itachi takes forcing eye contact with his targets hundreds of times, and shouldn't fall easily to a much less proficient genjutsu user.

-No it doesn't. Absorbing more natural energy then Kisames own chakra only makes it a threat.

-"Swims underground"

-Subterranean Voyage>Kirin, assuming Sasuke miraculously is able to prep it.
 

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This is a better match up 4 hebi, as suigetsu becomes useful.

all members of taka can break handheld water prison & kisame can't really put any of them down efficiently/1-shot.

kisame needs to dictate the progression in his fights, but Taka has too many interruptions to give.

but Kisame would beat hebi sasuke alone
 

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But what does Manda to do Kisame? Worst case scenario, Manda swallows Kisame whole, as that's what snakes due [ ] Okay, then what? Kisame isn't getting digested right away; seeing as Naruto didn't and the Kin and Gin bros lived and fed off Kuramas insides for two whole weeks. So just like Naruto was able to himself out, Kisame should have no problem doing the same by spewing out an entire lake within Mandas stomach. That's all under the assumption that Kisame even get's swallowed, which I find unlikely, as a slower Tsunade was able to contend with Mandas speed with a giant sword in her hand. A bunch of shark summons should be able to inflict enough pain for Manda to poof back. That or the time limit. Manda isn't an issue here at all.

I don't see what's flying going to accomplish. None of Sasukes jutsu are going to do anything to Kisame barring sharingan genjutsu and karin, which are both unlikely to successfully work.

Good point actually regarding Manda swallowing him. Though I'm assuming Manda's use would be to counter the Dome. Hebi as a team is what the real problem is considering Kisame would have to take them all out at the same time. The worst part is Jugo here considering Kisame would try to absorb his attacks which involves him absorbing Senjutsu. He turns into a frog and we have the fact that swimming underground is not helpful with Karin being able to sense him. Manda can assist and protect them till his time is up while Sasuke prepares Kirin or even takes advantage of Water's weakness to Lightning. The sharks shouldn't be an issue when Manda can just go underground or even take their attacks which won't do much.

Sasuke being able to fly would help him considering his can avoid Kisame's attacks easier than he could.
 

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Once Sasuke goes CM2 his arsenal cannot be absorbed therefore it's gameover Kisame...
 

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Hebi wins med-diff...

Sasuke alone could nearly solo... Sasuke would summon Manda which would pressure Kisame extremely... Juugo cannot be absorbed by Samehada since it's quite clear Juugo is senjutsu in-hanced while he able to use that tech meaning Samehada is rendered moot to that ability... WD is escaped by Manda carrying the team inside of his mouth and proceeds to go underground... Kisame just can't win...​
 
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