Hebi Sasuke was not kage level!!!

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ohnoki-Neggs him with jinton like he did to MS sasuke
Ay-Neggs him with his lighting armour speed and he doesn't have susanoo to negate those attacks
Mei-Mist and lava solo
Gaara-this fight mainly depends on location but sasuke wins in a place with little to no extra sand.Grand Sand Mausoleum Seal though.anyway I give this to sasuke 3/5
Tsunade-I just need to know his counter for byakugou and katsuyu > Manda.

From that it's pretty evident hebi was not kage level unless you can prove otherwise. MS Sasuke maybe but people should stop over hyping hebi

P.S yes I know you think 'sasuke neggs All' so no need to say it
 

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Hebi Sasuke defeated Kage Level opponents, even in a near 2v1 scenario. /thread.
 

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In my honest opinion, Hebi Sasuke was more Anbu level like Itachi back in the day and Kakashi.
 

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But you also have to consider that he defeated Deidara, who also defeated a kage(Gaara).

So by default Hebi Sasuke should be Kage level.
 

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But you also have to consider that he defeated Deidara, who also defeated a kage(Gaara).

So by default Hebi Sasuke should be Kage level.

Yes. And in a near 2v1 at that.
 

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If Kakashi (no sharingan) can be kage then Hebi Sasuke damn well is Kage level


But in my personal opinion he was more hokage candidate level but not there yet. Still wet behind the ears but the most promising prospect.
 

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And also, the OP is trying to compare a low ranked kage to a bunch of experienced high ranking kages. Nice work.
 

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Which one is low ranked?
(Old) Hiruzen, Tsunade, Kakashi, Danzo, and Gaara. Mei is pretty average, but her lava style techniques keep her from being trash.
 

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I see why the Uchiha rebelled. They had the strongest Members of the leaf yet not one if them were elected Hokage.
 

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Hiruzen, Tsunade, Kakashi, and Gaara. Mei is pretty average, but her lava style techniques keep her from being trash.

None of them are low ranked especially not Hiruzen, and damn well not Garra you crazy as hell.

I put Garra>Hebi Sasuke without a second thought
 

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None of them are low ranked especially not Hiruzen, and damn well not Garra you crazy as hell.

I put Garra>Hebi Sasuke without a second thought
Hiruzen is garbage, maybe in his prime he was some sort of god, but for all we've seen him as in the manga, he's an average ninja, making him a low tier kage. Lets not forget he died fighting Part I Orochimaru. Me calling Gaara low rank is really pushing it, but compared to the other kages like Hashirama, Onoki, Tobirama, Muu, the 3rd Raikage, etc, Gaara is low tier.
 

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Hebi Sasuke defeated Kage Level opponents, even in a near 2v1 scenario. /thread.
what? tobi acting like an idiot and laying a few mines makes kage level? wow

And also, the OP is trying to compare a low ranked kage to a bunch of experienced high ranking kages. Nice work.

well yeah! that was the gokage we saw at the time. who do you want?

If Kakashi (no sharingan) can be kage then Hebi Sasuke damn well is Kage level


But in my personal opinion he was more hokage candidate level but not there yet. Still wet behind the ears but the most promising prospect.

This I can understand

But you also have to consider that he defeated Deidara, who also defeated a kage(Gaara).

So by default Hebi Sasuke should be Kage level.

this argument doesn't hold any merit in the naruto verse.think of this sm naruto >/= hebi sasuke but he gets negged by deidaras C4 karura.plus for him to have kage he must be able to defeat the kages of the time himself cementing himself as the strongest of that village
 

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what? tobi acting like an idiot and laying a few mines makes kage level? wow

The mines were 90% of Sasuke's troubles. He based his entire strategy against Deidara around those mines, and Deidara based his entire strategy against Sasuke around those mines.

So yes. It's a big deal. Sasuke fought 2v1 in that fight while holding back in order to capture Deidara alive for questioning, and while having to maintain enough chakra to keep Orochimaru sealed within him.
 

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Hebi sasuke beat deidara who is considered kage level since he literally beat the kazekage. In my opinion garaa was somewhat weak for a kage early p2, so i would consider hebi sauce low kage level, and believe most of the current kage at the time would defeat him.

"Kage level" imo is a pretty broad term. Reason being there are many characters of pretty varying strength that can be considered kage level. The sannin, the akatsuki members, some of the high level jonin like kakashi and darui, kabuto, ect. This doesnt make them all equals it is simply true all or their ability can be considered comparable in strength to current and past kage. No one is going to argue that because hebi sasuke beat deidara, who is kage lvl, he could also beat hiruzen or minato.

My point being kage level is broad just as jonin, chunin, and genin Are. People of the same level are not perfectly equal, and you not liking sasuke doesnt take away the feats he accomplished during his hebi days.
 

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ohnoki-Neggs him with jinton like he did to MS sasuke
Ay-Neggs him with his lighting armour speed and he doesn't have susanoo to negate those attacks
Mei-Mist and lava solo
Gaara-this fight mainly depends on location but sasuke wins in a place with little to no extra sand.Grand Sand Mausoleum Seal though.anyway I give this to sasuke 3/5
Tsunade-I just need to know his counter for byakugou and katsuyu > Manda.

From that it's pretty evident hebi was not kage level unless you can prove otherwise. MS Sasuke maybe but people should stop over hyping hebi

P.S yes I know you think 'sasuke neggs All' so no need to say it
So much wrong here.
 

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Hiruzen is garbage, maybe in his prime he was some sort of god, but for all we've seen him as in the manga, he's an average ninja, making him a low tier kage. Lets not forget he died fighting Part I Orochimaru. Me calling Gaara low rank is really pushing it, but compared to the other kages like Hashirama, Onoki, Tobirama, Muu, the 3rd Raikage, etc, Gaara is low tier.

(Old) Hiruzen, Tsunade, Kakashi, Danzo, and Gaara. Mei is pretty average, but her lava style techniques keep her from being trash.

so in your opinion hebi sasuke > hiruzen and kazekage gaara?
 

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Hebi and MS Sasuke are both kage level. They both do not fit in the jounin level for sure.
 
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