Lol This guy, you misunderstand the point of me talking about the madara reference, whether or not mukoton requires a clap is of little important when we take into factor of the golem's originally speed. The golem having it's weight lightened makes no difference as it is not touching sasuke with his shunshin and reaction time.
lol? Its of little importance? Madara couldn't evade and had to resort to Susanoo, meaning that the combo was too much for him to simply evade it. Shunshin isn't a factor here when Madara couldn't even made Naruto coming down at him with Cho Oodama Rasengan, Sasuke isn't going to evade the golem, whose speed will be increased by its weight being lightened.
Don't say he's going to Shunshin out of the way when the Mobile Core+Aerial attack combo was too much for Madara to simply evade.
Lol really? The golem evading chidori spear with it's massive size and width? you're overrating the hell out of Onoki's lightening jutsu if you think his golem will evade chidori spear when it's length is
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and all sasuke has to do is wave the spear around :|. Please show me a scan of Onoki flying with that huge ass golem? Either way it will make no difference as the golem isnt touching sasuke nor hardly is it evading Chidori when sasuke can use his katana similar to how he did with Deidara to strengthen his jumping power and end the golem right there along with onoki potentially. I mentioned the offensive power lacking because you clearly said Onoki would lighten the golem did you not?
Considering he can fly with the golem, yes he can possibly evade Chidori Sharp Spear. Don't even say he can't when the golem was clearly in the air here, not to mention saying that he can't fly with the golem is nothing but a baseless assertion despite him being able to fly with whatever he makes contact with.
If you believe that he can't fly with the golem. Go get me some proof.
Even if Sasuke cuts it, all Onoki needs to do is reform it.
Lol you have No idea what the hell your talking about. First off the technique does isnt restricted to only the fist. The scan you showed of Onoki's fist covered in rock wasnt due to him performing any form of enhanced weight technique on his fist, he simply performed his
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, You Tard. Yes god like speed, the Databook clearly states that.:| As you can see Onoki has no technique that would only effect the fist of the Golem, if he does his super aggravated technique on the golem it will effect the whole body making it slower, not that it would even touch sasuke. the rock fist technique is different then the super aggravated technique you useless piece of trash!
Smh that you think a damn golem is going to touch sasuke.
LMAO When did I ever say that his fist was covered in rock due to his Weight increasing Jutsu? Never, that's when. Onoki used the attack to make himself hit harder, but it really doesn't matter since he has already shown to be able to use these techniques in perfect timing of each other so that the interval where the speed is slowed down is so small that its completely irrelevant, as shown in the manga, so don't mention it again unless you feel like arguing against manga fact now.
lol. Databook also says Totsuka cuts down any enemy. Madara also said PS cuts all creation. Sasuke's speed is FAR from god like. Nor is it as good as you are making it seem.
Smh that you think Sasuke is going to effortlessly evade a combo that forced Madara to react with Susanoo, with his "god like speed" lmfao.
Oh my god, stop with this non sense! A mother fken Doton golem isnt touching sasuke with his speed and reaction!
Not even sure if serious. Madara had to use Susanoo to survive Mobile Core+Aerial Rasengan. Sasuke isn't going to Shunshin out of the way, not a chance in hell. And he isn't tanking it either.
No Tard, Your not even taking into factor of the potentially distance of sasuke and the golem before the golem can even reach over to sasuke. Sasuke would have more than enough time to slice the golem with CS U_U.
The golem simply needs to get close to Sasuke, then Onoki uses mobile core, why would he use mobile core and then wait for the golem when the whole point is to use mobile core to push Sasuke into the golem's attack from above? So Sasuke isn't going to slice shit with Chidori Spear before he becomes nothing but a mere smear on the ground.
-Golem hits Sasuke
-On impact he makes the golem's fist hard and Sasuke dies.
It becoming slower isn't a factor as Sasuke is already going to be hit by hit.
Not to mention Onoki can simply form a golem right behind Sasuke just like he did to block Madara's Magatama, while Mobile Core is pushing him upwards, practically pushing him into the golem's fist. Then it crushes him.
Mobile Core also lets him
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, and Onoki can spawn Rock Golem limbs from wherever he wants in the battlefield,
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This combo would allow him to crush Sasuke after Mobile Core has lowered him into the hole allowing the rock golem's hand to crush him like I mentioned already.
You can say he'd fly out of the hole using CS2, but of course, Onoki can have the main, large golem waiting at the top of the hole blocking Sasuke's path and killing him if he tries to get free.
Yeah because we all know Deidara's explosion contains raiton which has a advantage over doton? Dum ass.
Raiton having an advantage over Doton doesn't mean that any Raiton attack can fodderize it. That makes no damn sense. That's like saying any weak ass Fire attack will overcome Rasen Shuriken when that is clearly not true.
2-3 seconds?
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Learn to counter mother fker, this is clearly more than 2-3 seconds. Again Please show me this scan of the golem flying with Onoki? Because I only recall onoki
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Count One One Thousand, Two One Thousand, Three One Thousand and tell me if that is more than 3 seconds. It was charged and ready to fire in the last panel. He simply had to aim it correctly since Kabuto and Deidara were going to two different directions.
Not to mention I already posted a panel of him using it quickly. If Sasuke doesn't die to Golem+Mobile Core then he dies to Jinton. Fact is Onoki can fly faster than Sasuke can, can move in the air far better than Sasuke can, and most of his moves are pointless once Onoki gets high enough. Jinton ends it.
Until he finds sasuke? or until katons are being throw at him from behind?
lol, not even sure if serious. Deidara was able to see this guy move when he used Shunshin, saying he's going to Shunshin so fast Onoki can't even see him any more is nothing but pure wank of Sasuke's speed.
And don't come here saying, that's a feat for Deidara, cause reactions aren't going to let Deidara see him when Onoki supposedly can't according to you.
Chidori is easily destroying :| Raiton>doton. Deidaras explosive are not raiton you damn clown.
Deidara's explosives are extremely powerful, again, Ration>Doton doesn't justify the fact that any Raiton attack isn't going to destroy any Doton attack based on that alone.
By your logic, Fire Ball Jutsu should counter FRS despite FRS being far more powerful than Fire Ball Jutsu.
By your logic, Water Dragon Jutsu should counter Madara or Obito's Katon because Suiton>Katon without factoring in the actual strength of the technique.
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Lol doubting the speed of the windmills? And please dont give Deidara reaction time feats to Deidara!
lmfao. What the hell was this suppose to prove? All this shows is that Shuriken came out of nowhere from an unspecified location and were even effortlessly evaded by Deidara.
Not to mention if push comes to shove, all Onoki needs to do is stop charging Jinton, evade, and then rinse and repeat. Though Sasuke has no move that will hit Onoki when he is high enough in the air, before Jinton is charged and fired.
Still waiting on that scan of the golem flying with Onoki you piece of crap.
Still waiting for some evidence that he can't do so. Saying he's only done it with human beings ain't gonna cut it pal.
Not to mention he is going to be flying WITH the golem here, just like he was flying with Ay, he isn't going to transfer the ability to the golem like he did to his granddaughter.
Ok you have a point here but coming in at different angles means being a risk as seeing he would have to swoop in at Manda and perform the jutsu, In that time frame sasuke can easily shunshin over to Onoki's location, a first glace from onoki mean's getting caught in genjutsu. Pre knowledge on the sharigan doesn't always mean one will not look into the persons eyes considering even danzo got trapped in sasukes genjutsu, a man of his knowledge and past experience.
lol? Onoki has no reason at all to look at Sasuke's eyes or even his face altogether once he's lightened Manda. Its not like Sasuke is going to Shunshin from the top of Manda or the ground (Two places he'll either be when Manda is summoned) down to Onoki, who will be at the farthest possible angle from Sasuke when he attempts this.
Danzo was in CQC with Sasuke, up close and personal. Onoki isn't going to do so, so your Danzo example doesn't hold.
Not to mention Onoki can use the Weighted Rock Technique with his golem as well,
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He can just have a limb touch Manda and its over for him, no need for him to get close to Sasuke. The same can go for Sasuke. The golem doesn't even need to smash him, once it touches him its GG for him as he will end up like Susanoo, immobile.