Hebi Sasuke vs Kabuto (restricted)

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Hebi Sasuke (no summons) vs Kabuto (ET, SM, Manda 2, Mugen Onsa restricted)

Location/Distance: Sasuke vs Deidara
Intel: Manga
 

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Kabuto catches Sasuke in webs, which he has no method of breaking, and traps him in Doton Doro.
 

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Kabuto catches Sasuke in webs, which he has no method of breaking, and traps him in Doton Doro.

Shouldn't Sasuke have the necessary shunshin and precognition abilities to dodge the webs altogether?
 

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Shouldn't Sasuke have the necessary shunshin and precognition abilities to dodge the webs altogether?

He could but he can't dodge them forever, if he gets caught in even a single web its pretty much over.
 

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This.

Its a matter of out fooling Sasuke, in the end.

To be honest, I don't see why he can't just use a substitution jutsu to escape such situations lol. But really, if they are flammable he can burn them away with katons or perhaps bust through it with Chidori Nagashi. Oral Rebirth if necessary...
 

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To be honest, I don't see why he can't just use a substitution jutsu to escape such situations lol.

Substitution needs a subs, that only fools a character like once, so it isn't any factor when he can make more then one.

But really, if they are flammable he can burn them away with katons or perhaps bust through it with Chidori Nagashi.

Sasuke acknowledged/manga intel, that they can't be damage by any normal means and relied on Amaterasu and Enton, canonically. The jutsu you name aren't close to its power so no those aren't counters.

Oral Rebirth if necessary...

Sure if the webs isn't warped around Sasuke enough, still isn't an effective counter, especially when Doton Doro as soon as he is caught.
 

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webs arent even close to be factor, chidori nagashi counters it with ease, strong katon jutsu counters it
 

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Webs can be burned or cut via ration. Also that's a make believe feat anyways. Sasuke shits...
 

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Webs can be burned or cut via ration. Also that's a make believe feat anyways. Sasuke shits...

*Defying manga and states Enton and Amaterasu are make believe feats to counter webs*

*Make believes Katon and Raiton can burn and cut the webs*
 

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The webs are over hyped, especially here since they will be regular webs and not senjustu enhanced webs. Sasuke can see the chakra flowing through the webs, raiton, with Sasuke's mastery cuts through them.
 

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*Defying manga and states Enton and Amaterasu are make believe feats to counter webs*

*Make believes Katon and Raiton can burn and cut the webs*

Well why can't they? Because of one statement Sasuke said which was "those webs can't be cut by blades"? Gentle Fist cut it, I don't see why Chidori Stream or Chidori Sharp Spear can't pierce through it, or why spider silk can't be burned away. You tend to overrate these webs, I recall you saying that they can repel bijuudmas.
 

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Well why can't they? Because of one statement Sasuke said which was "those webs can't be cut by blades"? Gentle Fist cut it, I don't see why Chidori Stream or Chidori Sharp Spear can't pierce through it, or why spider silk can't be burned away. You tend to overrate these webs, I recall you saying that they can repel bijuudmas.

Gentile fist has the ability to nullify any chakra, so dont even bring up bad ABC logic. Its not just Sasuke's statement that makes it valid its his point of countering the justu, TWICE!

Wither you view of you thinking Im overrating the jutsu isn't change what had occurred in the manga.
 

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What Sasuke countered was SM enhanced webs completely different from regular webs with chakra in them.
 

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What Sasuke countered was SM enhanced webs completely different from regular webs with chakra in them.

I would of agreed with you. But Sasuke had no knowledge of SM capable of doing such.
 

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I would of agreed with you. But Sasuke had no knowledge of SM capable of doing such.

Ok good point however Kabuto and Sasuke talk about Jugo's ability and how Kabuto gained something like a curse Mark, Kabuto debunks that stating he has something stronger than a curse mark. Sasuke also simply states you cannot cut that with a sword, which he could have deduced from seeing chakra in it.

Later on in the war arc, Sasuke shows knowlegde of senjustu when he uses Jugo's chakra.
 

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Ok good point however Kabuto and Sasuke talk about Jugo's ability and Kabuto gained something like a curse Mark, Kabuto debunks that stating he has something stronger than a curse mark. Sasuke also simply states you cannot cut that with a sword, which he could have deduced from seeing chakra in it.

Later on in the war arc, Sasuke shows knowlegde of senjustu when he uses Jugo's chakra.

Sasuke cannot see natural energy flow in the webs so he wouldn't tell the difference between kidomaru used and Kabuto's.
 

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Sasuke cannot see natural energy flow in the webs so he wouldn't tell the difference between kidomaru used and Kabuto's.

I am saying he simply saw chakra flow in the webs and deduced that a regular sword is not cutting through.
 

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I am saying he simply saw chakra flow in the webs and deduced that a regular sword is not cutting through.

I am agreeing that he can, but that doesn't prove that he can tell the difference between Kabuto's and kidomaru's since it was stated in part 1 that a regular sword it not cutting them.
 
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