Hebi Sasuke=SM Naruto

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto has device tactics before the Pain arc, Naruto can use clones which gave him info on how to approach Kakuzu in order to land his Rasenshurikan.

FRS is big noisy technique, naruto will never surprise sharingan with that.

I'm talking about 3 tomoe sharingan and yes its futile against Sm Naruto in almost every aspect.Ma and Pa can snap him out of genjtusu and his Sm mode extend his punching reach something the 3 tomoe could never track.
Sasuke's sharingan is nothing his genjutsu won't even work on Naruto.

A sharingan that can suppress biju is not nothing. With CM 3T was enough to brake tsukuyomi
Ma and Pa? Pain arc naruto is yet to show he can even summon them. Nahashi has bigger range then kumite.

He's still able to use tactics during the Pein arc, the how intelligence thing is the only thing you can agree against since Naruto completely nullifies Sasuke's attacks.He created clones without a Rinngegan user knowing, he can easily accomplish this against a puny 3 tomoe Uchiha cub.

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.He can create summonings such as Ma and Pa who can start up the sound genjutsu from the get go.

Again, he has never shown to able to summon ma n pa. Jiraya took whole lot to do that. Genjutsu isnt from get go. It takes time as seen with pain, countered by self inflicted pain lol.
Sharingan has enhanced perception it doesnt fail to spot minor details like rinnegan does. Clone spam isnt tactics, its the only shit he could do actually. Sasuke has summons too u know.

He's done that against Kakuzu and Sasuke won't be able to keep track of the real one unless you have real evidence of him doing so.

A sharingan can see chakra levels. To fool it naruto would have to create even amount of chakra in clones and himself, that would be huge waste of SM power, it would deny him ability to make any FRS. Sasuke has AOE attacks to deal with them.

 

[Optimistic]

FRS is big noisy technique, naruto will never surprise sharingan with that.

He doesn't even need FRS his frog kumit and rasengan can knock him out cold.

A sharingan that can suppress biju is not nothing. With CM 3T was enough to brake tsukuyomi

A none factor in this fight, there will be no genjutsu battles in this fight unless Ma and Pa use their frog song.
Suppressing a Biju that wasn't under control isn't a huge feat.

Ma and Pa? Pain arc naruto is yet to show he can even summon them.

He can summon any toad due to signing the contract, its been stated many times in many different threads.I can't be bothered to dig up threads that completely crushes everything you believe in.

Nahashi has bigger range then kumite.

Clones can attack from the ground or Naruto and his clones can sense the incoming danger and dodge it accordingly.

Again, he has never shown to able to summon ma n pa.

Clearly you don't know anything about frog summonings all together.

Jiraya took whole lot to do that. Genjutsu isnt from get go.

Naruto can stall with his clones/Sm clones which outnumber Sasuke completely.

It takes time as seen with pain, countered by self inflicted pain lol.

Still gives Naruto enough time to approach Sasuke and one hit Ko him.

Sharingan has enhanced perception it doesnt fail to spot minor details like rinnegan does.

But Rinnegan allows the user to sense things easily, Nagato didn't sense any clones through Deva Path.
Either way Sasuke isn't taking down the large number of clones each being able to use Odama rasengan.

Clone spam isnt tactics, its the only shit he could do actually.

Like i give a shit, still gives Naruto the win does it not?

Sasuke has summons too u know.

FRS kills them and toads can keep them busy anyway.Sm naruto can throw summonings and Kurumah.Sasuke's snakes will do nothing.

A sharingan can see chakra levels. To fool it naruto would have to create even amount of chakra in clones and himself, that would be huge waste of SM power, it would deny him ability to make any FRS. Sasuke has AOE attacks to deal with them.

Naruto can make a lot of clones without effecting his overall performance.

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.Each clone can user rasengan(this is base Naruto by the way) Naruto can also enlarge them by keeping a clone or himself back and perform the Sm stance to make the Rasengan into an advanced larger version.

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Naruto only needs one or two clones anyway but i feel like throwing in the fact that Naruto can beat him by using an even larger scale of clones.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

lol stfu fanboy

I'll debate you on it any day.

Until then, you're just a troll.

 

[AlphaScythian]

He doesn't even need FRS his frog kumit and rasengan can knock him out cold.
A none factor in this fight, there will be no genjutsu battles in this fight unless Ma and Pa use their frog song.
Suppressing a Biju that wasn't under control isn't a huge feat.
He can summon any toad due to signing the contract, its been stated many times in many different threads.I can't be bothered to dig up threads that completely crushes everything you believe in.
Clones can attack from the ground or Naruto and his clones can sense the incoming danger and dodge it accordingly.
Clearly you don't know anything about frog summonings all together.
Naruto can stall with his clones/Sm clones which outnumber Sasuke completely.
Still gives Naruto enough time to approach Sasuke and one hit Ko him.
But Rinnegan allows the user to sense things easily, Nagato didn't sense any clones through Deva Path.
Either way Sasuke isn't taking down the large number of clones each being able to use Odama rasengan.
Like i give a shit, still gives Naruto the win does it not?
FRS kills them and toads can keep them busy anyway.Sm naruto can throw summonings and Kurumah.Sasuke's snakes will do nothing.
Naruto can make a lot of clones without effecting his overall performance.

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.Each clone can user rasengan(this is base Naruto by the way) Naruto can also enlarge them by keeping a clone or himself back and perform the Sm stance to make the Rasengan into an advanced larger version.

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Naruto only needs one or two clones anyway but i feel like throwing in the fact that Naruto can beat him by using an even larger scale of clones.

All mere opinions not worth countering. It all plays out nicely withing ur own plot. Now if ur any knowledgeable on manga try to make counters for ur own arguments here. Lets see how many will be left out.

Ma n pa are toads yes but they are sage toads thus much more powerful it takes much more to summon them. Base jiraya couldnt do that naruto is far worse then that. But hey for genjutsu song u need 2 frogs, what will happen if sasuke hits one with genjutsu?

 

[KidGamer65]

SM Naruto beats Hebi Sasuke, with ease.

 

[Optimistic]

All mere opinions not worth countering. It all plays out nicely withing ur own plot.

Either counter my so called 'unworthy' posts then leave.Got nothing useful to add then gtfo.

Now if ur any knowledgeable on manga try to make counters for ur own arguments here. Lets see how many will be left out.

If you was knowledgeable you would know that Sm Naruto > Hebi Sasuke.Too bad being knowledgeable = praising Sasuke.

Ma n pa are toads yes but they are sage toads thus much more powerful it takes much more to summon them.

dumbest ****ing pile of doodoo i've ever seen.Need me to post about how much chakra Naruto has?

Base jiraya couldnt do that naruto is far worse then that.

This is horrible, you can't even counter half of my ealier points.Your slipping man how about you have a cup of coffee to fuel yourself with more bs energy.The only person who agrees with your rubbish is the thread maker but sadly he's too scared to even counter any bodies points.

But hey for genjutsu song u need 2 frogs, what will happen if sasuke hits one with genjutsu?

All mere opinions not worth countering. It all plays out nicely withing ur own plot.Your bs words looks good when putting them under yours.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Since u've asked for this.

He doesn't even need FRS his frog kumit and rasengan can knock him out

BS. hebi sasuke has tanked big explosive from deidara the one that ripped his wing off.
Frog kumite or rasengan didnt even managed to destroy the body parts of pain. There is never gonna happen any of these due to nagashi superior range and due to genjutsu.

A none factor in this fight, there will be no genjutsu battles in this fight unless Ma and Pa use their frog song.
Suppressing a Biju that wasn't under control isn't a huge feat.

Genjutsu is always a factor. And kurama disagrees with you lol.

He can summon any toad due to signing the contract, its been stated many times in many different threads.I can't be bothered to dig up threads that completely crushes everything you believe in.

No, he can summon gamakichi on his own cuz he sux w/o kurama.

Clones can attack from the ground or Naruto and his clones can sense the incoming danger and dodge it accordingly.

Clones are visible underground due to chakra signature. They lack speed to dodge large aoe.

Clearly you don't know anything about frog summonings all together.

Enlighten me. Let me guess narutowikia?

Naruto can stall with his clones/Sm clones which outnumber Sasuke completely.

Can stall? Sasuke with superior speed will be the one stalling here. He will play on pathetic 5 minutes naruto has. His katon and nagashi aoe will be owning waves of clones lol.

Still gives Naruto enough time to approach Sasuke and one hit Ko him.

I dont think so. Its some manga supported proof u got there. /sarcasm

But Rinnegan allows the user to sense things easily, Nagato didn't sense any clones through Deva Path.
Either way Sasuke isn't taking down the large number of clones each being able to use Odama rasengan.

Only KCM time line naruto was able to do that. We'r talking of pain arc here. Nagato can sense, pain cannot

Like i give a shit, still gives Naruto the win does it not?

No, he does not. User divided his power among clones, with that many they are all fodders.

FRS kills them and toads can keep them busy anyway.Sm naruto can throw summonings and Kurumah.Sasuke's snakes will do nothing.

*****. Pain was able to dodge FRS along with its blast range. Did u see last chapter, those snakes are damn fast. Not happening. Snakes beat toads manda was taking on other summons alone.

Naruto can make a lot of clones without effecting his overall performance.

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.Each clone can user rasengan(this is base Naruto by the way) Naruto can also enlarge them by keeping a clone or himself back and perform the Sm stance to make the Rasengan into an advanced larger version.

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Naruto only needs one or two clones anyway but i feel like throwing in the fact that Naruto can beat him by using an even larger scale of clones.

Clones dont affect performance if he gives them small power only. It creates chakra difference and sasuke can easily spot real one thus finish him with genjutsu+attack combo. And again ur linkin KCM naruto timeline.

Naruto is too close range to beat sasuke. CM is basically SM and sasuke has much stronger base.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

The Curse Seal is a poor imitation of Sage Mode.

It's stated that MS = SM.

 

[TrollingSage]

Since u've asked for this.
BS. hebi sasuke has tanked big explosive from deidara the one that ripped his wing off.

He used his wing to shield himself from the explosion. That's why only that wing was affected.

*****. Pain was able to dodge FRS along with its blast range

Pain was able to dodge it's blast range because he knew it had a blast range, after it had killed one of his paths. Sasuke wont get a second chance. Unless he knows how FRS works, he'll most likely end up like the first paths Naruto used FRS on.

 

[Draegod]

It really depends on the conditions. We all know naruto cannot stay in sage mode long.

 

[Lilt]

Even FRS Naruto beats Hebi Sasuke ...

The Naruto that lost to Itachi's clone via genjutsu?

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People in this thread aren't taking into acount that Pain Arc Naruto needed substantial prep.

Give that prep to Hebi Sasuke and he has Kirin.

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So yeah, they're about even. With prep, Kirin evens things out plenty.

Without prep, Hebi Sasuke has a significant edge over Naruto by Naruto's own admission.

Now, post-Pain Sage Naruto became much, much stronger.

As he needed less/no prep and wasn't severely limited in the number of clones he could use.

 

[Smd]

Cursed Seal is a variant of senin mode. Sasuke also has orochimaru's powers and 3 tomoe sharigan....

Hebi Sasuke gets K.O'ed by one punch or rasengan.

alitte bit harsh.

Hebi sasuke was able to best itachi before he use MS...

He also beat deidara a S rank ninja an also an akatsuki member

i do think sm naruto might win but not by one punch...

 

[Genetics]

i dont think hebi sasuke=sm naruto. more like MS Sasuke=SM Naruto

 

[MyPainHurtsMe]

The Naruto that lost to Itachi's clone via genjutsu?

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People in this thread aren't taking into acount that Pain Arc Naruto needed substantial prep.

Give that prep to Hebi Sasuke and he has Kirin.

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So yeah, they're about even. With prep, Kirin evens things out plenty.

Without prep, Hebi Sasuke has a significant edge over Naruto by Naruto's own admission.

Now, post-Pain Sage Naruto became much, much stronger.

As he needed less/no prep and wasn't severely limited in the number of clones he could use.

1) Naruto knows to don't look directly at the sharingan, he has been never put in a genjutsu looking at one. It just that Itachi is to tricky with the genjutsus (finger and crow genjutsus).

2) SM Naruto =/= Pain arc SM Naruto