Hebi sasuke didn't need plot to beat Deidara

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That's what I meant... He was out maneuvering him the entire fight. But the way Sasuke escaped was of plot protection.

ehh idk. it seems pretty plausible. I mean doton is the basis for Deidara's bombs. and Raiton>Doton
 

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Of course he didn't need plot, his lightning style was just conveniently the weakness of Deidara's explosive clay, whats so hard to believe about that?

would it have been plot if it was kakashi? or the raikage or killer bee, or darui?
 
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Yes he did plot jutsu happened 2 3 times in that fight. fyi did you know a small clash fish wad strong enough to knockout the 3tail? imagine what a human size clay bomb could do to a human.....oh wait.....nothing-_-
 

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Sasuke won fair and square
 

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Yes he did plot jutsu happened 2 3 times in that fight. fyi did you know a small clash fish wad strong enough to knockout the 3tail? imagine what a human size clay bomb could do to a human.....oh wait.....nothing-_-

imagine if the first reference was cannon?
 

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Hey look! a Giant Ball of exploding clay! Should I eat it with my chest and die, or make animals with it that explode right on top of Sasuke while he's battered and beaten?

Nah I'll just eat it and explode.
 

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You mean apart from the part where he pulls out a summon in his almost depleted state, controls it with gen jutsu and climbs into its mouth all within a fraction of a second.

he was clearly bluffing. if he wasn't his sharingan wouldn't be active. what is far fetched about that? sasuke can move great distances in an instant

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no time had passed in the real world
 

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Hey look! a Giant Ball of exploding clay! Should I eat it with my chest and die, or make animals with it that explode right on top of Sasuke while he's battered and beaten?

Nah I'll just eat it and explode.

considering he had nullified all the others, what would make this different in deidara's mind?

EDIT: and he tried that just seconds earlier with no success

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he was clearly bluffing. if he wasn't his sharingan wouldn't be active. what is far fetched about that? sasuke can move great distances in an instant

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no time had passed in the real world

None of that can explain how Sasuke can summon Manda, control it, and get inside to protect himself, all within fractions of a second.

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None of that can explain how Sasuke can summon Manda, control it, and get inside to protect himself, all within fractions of a second.

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my point is the fight should have never gotten that far. Sasuke could have killed him here

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You mean apart from the part where he pulls out a summon in his almost depleted state, controls it with gen jutsu and climbs into its mouth all within a fraction of a second.

The only thing that implies he was depleted was Deidara's assumptions, since he later pulled out a Summon, used a Genjutsu and Transportation tech clearly proves otherwise, if he truly was depleted he wouldn't be able to supress Oro

There was nothing wrong with jumping in Manda's mouth its not like Deidara's explosion was instant, Sasuke won fair and square #DealWithIt
 
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There was nothing wrong with jumping in Manda's mouth its not like Deidara's explosion was instant, Sasuke won fair and square #DealWithIt
It doesnt have to be. It was however fast enough or should be fast enough to cover the few feet between Sasuke and Deidara before Sasuke was able to even summon. But no, not only did he have time to summon, but he also had time to cast a gen jutsu and climb into Manda's mouth.
 

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my point is the fight should have never gotten that far. Sasuke could have killed him here

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Don't get me wrong, I am agreeing with you, but with or without that, there are things that either didn't make sense, or simple attacks would have ended it.

AKA Sasuke using Chidori Sharp Spear while they were both on the ground
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Deidara using C1 bombs and remotely detonate them in front of Sasuke (that way they wouldn't be hit by Chidori Current and would still be hit by the blast radius.)
 

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It doesnt have to be. It was however fast enough or should be fast enough to cover the few feet between Sasuke and Deidara before Sasuke was able to even summon. But no, not only did he have time to summon, but he also had time to cast a gen jutsu and climb into Manda's mouth.

did you read the op? the fight would have never gotten that far. It was plot that deidara even got the chance to kill himself
 

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if he didn't this would happen

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Well to point something out if you look st what Zetsu says it is important. Sasuke tried to draw out MORE chakra when he was practically dry. Comparatively here Sasuke did not TRY to pull out more chakra.





OT: Sasuke won the fight; however, the survival was poorly done. It should have been s chidori or chidori sword stopping Deidara from blowing up.


1. Sasuke was pretty much shown and mentioned to have little if not any chakra remaining.

2. Even if he did have chakra, it was seemingly low enough to where he couldn't perform a summon (otherwise why even bother waiting for his suicide bomb, and just chidori his ass?!

3. Even if he has the chakra, can you REALLY believe the timing. He jumps into Manda and Suigetsu summons him st the perfect timing to prevent Sasuke's desth. For not planning on starting a fight, it is too much coincidence he even tells Suigetsu to summon Manda let alone summon him at the EXACT time it is needed



Which is why he should have stabbed the ball Deidara with a lightning sword and have the explosion stop. As it was mentioned, Sasuke's Ranton is superior in element, but the minute Deidara's bombs go off it is mo longer SM earth jutsu but an explosion...which lightning doesn't counter.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I am agreeing with you, but with or without that, there are things that either didn't make sense, or simple attacks would have ended it.

AKA Sasuke using Chidori Sharp Spear while they were both on the ground
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Deidara using C1 bombs and remotely detonate them in front of Sasuke (that way they wouldn't be hit by Chidori Current and would still be hit by the blast radius.)

he tried that

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he admitted it was pointless
 
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