Healthy Nagato vs BM Naruto

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BM Naruto obviously rapes.
One more thing: Characters in this manga do NOT always use their top shunshin speed, as it's impossible to fight properly by always moving at your top speed.
 

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The only issue Naruto has here is Preta, as everything else is either too weak to hurt him, or weak enough for him to overpower. If he uses Shunshin and hits Nagato before he can react and activate Preta, its GG.

Damn, thread done in two freaking lines.
 

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What the heck? How in the world do you get Naruto can't use his max shunshin in a versus thread because he's not always using it in the manga?
Because it's not IC for Naruto to do so. If he's not always using it in the manga when he's had so many opportunities to blitz a character, why would we use it here? He's used his speed to blitz only one character and that's when he didn't know what he was capable of (this is against Kisame). It's just not his style to blitz his opponents.
Yeah, he looked like the yellow flash because he moved so fast that his speed resembled minato's teleportation within that short distance. Naruto used his maximum shunshin on Kisame which is why Bee thought that. If Naruto didn't display far greater speed than what he had previously used against Ei, Bee and Tsunade have no reason to suddenly exclaim how his speed made him look like the yellow flash as he would have been using that same speed the entire time.
He looked like the Yellow Flash only because he dodged Ay's fastest attack. The fact that Bee likened Naruto to Minato right after thinking, "He dodged it...!?" shows it was only due to dodging his fastest attack. KCM Naruto's speed doesn't even come close to Hiraishin's speed, and Minato doesn't leave yellow streaks each time he uses Hiraishin considering it's teleportation; there'd only be yellow streaks if he moved.
None of that shows that his striking speed is slower than his shunshin speed. Sasuke's 3 tomoe reacted to V1 Ei coming straight at him. Ei was only moving as fast as darui and both stopped their shunshin and had no momentum when they tried to attack sasuke.
Of course it does. If we're looking at striking speed alone then that proves his striking speed is slow. Striking speed isn't using the momentum of Shunshin to strike, when we look at striking speed, we look at striking alone so we see how fast they strike when they're not incorporating Shunshin with their strikes.
Naruto wouldn't have moved before Ei got that close since naruto doing so would have allowed Ei to course correct, he needed to wait till Ei's punch almost hit him and then dodge. The manga blatantly shows Naruto looking at Ei while he's coming and the lack of any exclamation points proves that he didn't just react to Ei once he appeared in front of him.
Course correct? When you're moving at top speed? And Naruto knew V2 Ay was coming, it's not like he tried to blitz him out of nowhere without giving him any sign of a warning [ ].
You need to reread this manga if you believe that to be true. Does Juubito go around blitzing everyone like he did to Hashirama and Tobirama? Does Jiraiya run around blitzing the paths of pain with the same speed he used to get to preta? Does SM Naruto constantly move at the speeds he used to blitz asura across konoha with? Does ei always shunshin with his maximum speed? Does Hebi Sasuke always move at his shunshin speed?
You so obviously misread what I said. I was talking about using Shunshin in battle. If you're going to use Shunshin in battle, you're using it to blitz, otherwise there'd be no reason to use Shunshin.
The answer is obviously no, characters don't always move at their top speed, yet that doesn't mean that they aren't able to do so when the situations requires it.
And every time an opportunity presented itself to Naruto to blitz, he didn't. Like I've said before, I'm pretty sure he's only blitzed one character in KCM, and that's Kisame.
 

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Because it's not IC for Naruto to do so. If he's not always using it in the manga when he's had so many opportunities to blitz a character, why would we use it here? He's used his speed to blitz only one character and that's when he didn't know what he was capable of (this is against Kisame). It's just not his style to blitz his opponents.
Except there are reasons why naruto doesn't blitz characters with his speed.
And again, if naruto has an easy way to beat his opponent, yet chooses not to use it, then it's not IC it's PIS. If flash shunshin is a necessary option to beat his opponent then he is going to use it.

He looked like the Yellow Flash only because he dodged Ay's fastest attack. The fact that Bee likened Naruto to Minato right after thinking, "He dodged it...!?" shows it was only due to dodging his fastest attack. KCM Naruto's speed doesn't even come close to Hiraishin's speed, and Minato doesn't leave yellow streaks each time he uses Hiraishin considering it's teleportation; there'd only be yellow streaks if he moved.
That makes absolutely no sense, no one looks like the yellow flash because you dodge an attack that the yellow flash dodged, you only look like the yellow flash when you move like the yellow flash. Bee likened Naruto to the yellow flash the first time he used his shunshin and naruto didn't dodge anything there. It wasn't about minato leaving streaks, it was about bee and tsunade perceiving naruto's shunshin as instant teleportation as in hirashin-level when he traveled from point A to B. That's the blatantly obvious, explicitly stated point about Naruto's encounter with Ei and all the parallels between him and minato.

Of course it does. If we're looking at striking speed alone then that proves his striking speed is slow. Striking speed isn't using the momentum of Shunshin to strike, when we look at striking speed, we look at striking alone so we see how fast they strike when they're not incorporating Shunshin with their strikes.
But we aren't looking at striking speed alone because we know Ei uses his shunshin in order to power his hits, so it's Ei's shunshin speed plus his striking speed.

Course correct? When you're moving at top speed? And Naruto knew V2 Ay was coming, it's not like he tried to blitz him out of nowhere without giving him any sign of a warning [ ].
So you agree that Naruto fully perceived Ei coming at him and decided to wait until his punch was inches away from his face before he shunshined? good, next point.

You so obviously misread what I said. I was talking about using Shunshin in battle. If you're going to use Shunshin in battle, you're using it to blitz, otherwise there'd be no reason to use Shunshin.
really now, there's no reason to use shunshin other than to offensively blitz your opponent? How did Ei dodge amaterasu?

And every time an opportunity presented itself to Naruto to blitz, he didn't. Like I've said before, I'm pretty sure he's only blitzed one character in KCM, and that's Kisame.
What are these opportunities you're speaking of? And so what, characters get held back all the time due to plot. If blitzing is naruto's only option for beating an opponent, then he's going to blitz, especially when it's an opponent who's not even on his tier.
 

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You mean gets raped via multiple Bijuudama?

charged bijudama alongside bee didnt do squat,it survived being the core of a ct the size of the moon for generations. Multiple unexploding bijudamas arent doint squat
 
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