Healthy nagato and konan vs BM naruto and kakashi
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The Riddlerr
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Everyone is saying that Nagato can still beat Naruto but I don't see it, at least no one has presented a good reason for me to believe it.
IMO Kakashi can take Konan while Naruto can take Nagato.
-I think Kakashi has the power and intelligence to beat Konan if she doesn't have her paper ocean tech.
-Naruto at this point I believe is the strongest character b/c of BM. He has the power of 5 TBB, he has the speed that equals Minato or even greater. Nothing Nagato can do can stop Naruto's attacks at this point in my eyes
IMO Kakashi can take Konan while Naruto can take Nagato.
-I think Kakashi has the power and intelligence to beat Konan if she doesn't have her paper ocean tech.
-Naruto at this point I believe is the strongest character b/c of BM. He has the power of 5 TBB, he has the speed that equals Minato or even greater. Nothing Nagato can do can stop Naruto's attacks at this point in my eyes
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Are you joking? Firstly there's the abilities that each of his paths has in the one body... And if you're referring to a Healthy Nagato, I'm assuming it's the one we saw as an Edo Tensei without the mobility problem.
He can absorb Chakra, which means almost every technique that both Naruto and Kakashi have is rendered useless... And he has also been shown to be capable of absorbing Naruto's chakra cloak.
Secondly, Kakashi has no where near enough Chakra to be able to fight Nagato for an extended period of time, which means he goes from becoming an asset to a liability... Making Naruto's workload even more strenuous than it should be.
From there we move onto Nagato's ability to remove souls from a person's body with a single touch... I shouldn't need to explain why this is so deadly, seeing as they need to rely almost solely on Taijutsu to fight him due to his Ninjutsu absorbing ability.
Then we have the fact that Nagato can manipulate gravity, use every element and summon a large demon which is capable of absorbing people's souls from their bodies again... Said demon is quite large, really strong and deceptively fast making it far from easy to dodge.
And even if you use the fact that Naruto has fought Nagato before, without them being in the Paths, Naruto has no way of knowing precisely which technique Nagato is going to use or when he's going to use them.
Look at the last time Naruto fought against Nagato, it was 3v1 and they still had their hands full until Itachi used his Totsuka Sword to seal Nagato away... Something which Naruto doesn't possess... PLUS, that Nagato wasn't even fighting as himself, it was Kabuto controlling him which means you could argue that Nagato was weaker in that fight even though he was physically stronger because he was being controlled by someone who doesn't know of or how to use his abilities like Nagato would.
All in all, Nagato > Naruto and Kakashi.
He can absorb Chakra, which means almost every technique that both Naruto and Kakashi have is rendered useless... And he has also been shown to be capable of absorbing Naruto's chakra cloak.
Secondly, Kakashi has no where near enough Chakra to be able to fight Nagato for an extended period of time, which means he goes from becoming an asset to a liability... Making Naruto's workload even more strenuous than it should be.
From there we move onto Nagato's ability to remove souls from a person's body with a single touch... I shouldn't need to explain why this is so deadly, seeing as they need to rely almost solely on Taijutsu to fight him due to his Ninjutsu absorbing ability.
Then we have the fact that Nagato can manipulate gravity, use every element and summon a large demon which is capable of absorbing people's souls from their bodies again... Said demon is quite large, really strong and deceptively fast making it far from easy to dodge.
And even if you use the fact that Naruto has fought Nagato before, without them being in the Paths, Naruto has no way of knowing precisely which technique Nagato is going to use or when he's going to use them.
Look at the last time Naruto fought against Nagato, it was 3v1 and they still had their hands full until Itachi used his Totsuka Sword to seal Nagato away... Something which Naruto doesn't possess... PLUS, that Nagato wasn't even fighting as himself, it was Kabuto controlling him which means you could argue that Nagato was weaker in that fight even though he was physically stronger because he was being controlled by someone who doesn't know of or how to use his abilities like Nagato would.
All in all, Nagato > Naruto and Kakashi.
I see where you are coming from don't get me wrong. But Naruto now with BM is to OP.
I understand Nagato has the power to absorb chakra based attacks but that must have a limit. If Naruto was to release a TBB that has the power of 5 tailed beast I don't see that being absorbed or repelled. He hasn't shown the ability to stop such an attack of that power.
Nagato can remove souls and can most likely pull in Naruto to do this. But at the same time Naruto can make a KM and SM clones that are both quite powerful and easily help him get out of this situation with simple taijutsu based attacks.
With the help of Kakashi, Naruto can figure out how Nagato will react to each tech Naruto uses. Don't forget Sharigan can help predict movements before they happen.
The last time Naruto fought Nagato; Naruto only had KM and not BM. This time around Naruto holds the full power of the 9 tails plus some from the others. Even if Nagato is in full control of his own powers his attacks still become inferior to Naruto's attacks.
At this point Naruto>Nagato. Naruto has surpassed him in sheer power at this point.
While Kakashi can fight Konan and most likely win
NOemotions
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Funny how people are actually saying that nagato is dumb... ye.. former leader of S-rank ninjas is dumb as left foot shoe.. if they are going for kill.. then nagato and konan will win hands down.
Gingka Uzumaki
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I don't believe Nagato could touch anymore, I believe Naruto's BM cloak and aura is superheated, almost like a quasar. LOL Jk, but it is pretty hot.
u leftout a few things 1.bm taijutsu is very fast and accompanied with a massive ttb would be a handful 4 nagato 2 absorb and giving d perfect opening 4 a direct hit.2,nagato's weakness is genjutsu and we know dat kakashi possess d sharingan.3.and in sage mode we know dat naruto has techs that cant be seen so 1careless close range attack by nagato might lead 2 his death
No one is saying Nagato is dumb, but the experience both Naruto and Kakashi had with fighting Nagato would be a great assist in this fight. Knowing how Nagato fights would give the edge to Naruto. Nagato can never really learn how Naruto fights do to the fact Naruto's powers are constantly changing and increasing
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Nagato can absorb Ninjutsu, and if he's at his strongest point, then it can go either way about him absorbing the attack because TBB is still a Ninjutsu attack.
And how can a clone help Naruto out of getting his soul sucked out? Nagato grabs him and literally rips his arm up and the Soul goes with it... So a clone isn't gonna do anything.
As for Kakashi helping him figure out what Nagato would do... I doubt it. Kakashi won't be able to tell Naruto everything Nagato is going to do within a second.
Plus - where was it ever said that Nagato's weakness is Genjutsu? Just because Jiraiya put him in Frog Song doesn't mean Nagato is weak to it... Frog Song is arguably the strongest Genjutsu we've seen.
And how can a clone help Naruto out of getting his soul sucked out? Nagato grabs him and literally rips his arm up and the Soul goes with it... So a clone isn't gonna do anything.
As for Kakashi helping him figure out what Nagato would do... I doubt it. Kakashi won't be able to tell Naruto everything Nagato is going to do within a second.
Plus - where was it ever said that Nagato's weakness is Genjutsu? Just because Jiraiya put him in Frog Song doesn't mean Nagato is weak to it... Frog Song is arguably the strongest Genjutsu we've seen.
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Does bm me base mode or bijuu mode? If its bijuu, theyre gonna get wrecked by naruto while kakashi just sits back and laughs.