Healthy 3T Itachi VS Konoha Kunoichi

[Icelerate]

Restrictions: Summons
Location: Middle of the ocean
Starting Distance: 30 m
Intel: Full
Conditions: Sakura and Tsunade start in Byakogou. Itachi gets Sasuke's sword. Tenten gets the Sage's fan.

Konoha kunoichi include, war arc versions of Sakura, Hinata, Ino, Tenten, Tsunade, Kurenai, Anko, etc. Add Temari (she does eventually become a Konoha kunoichi but for simplicity let's assume these are all war arc versions).

 

[Icelerate]

I think Itachi can win mid difficulty.

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who has better reactions than any of the kunoichi here because he's used to high speed combat in his chakra modes as well as the fact he spins around very fast using his sword dance. None of the kunoichi will be able to track his shunshin which can allow him to get behind anyone he wants to take out.

To avoid this, the kunoichi can group in a circular formation where they have no blind spot. In that case, Itachi can still defeat everyone other than Sakura and Tsunade one by one when he shunshins into their face and kills them with his sword.

None of the kunoichi are fast enough or have any technique that can actually hit Itachi while Itachi can hit whoever he wants.

Once the fight is down to Sakura and Tsunade. Itachi can then go on to use clone feints as well as

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them as a distraction while using a subtle genjutsu against Tsunade in such a manner that Sakura doesn't realize her master is under genjutsu. This allows Itachi to get behind Sakura and finish her off because she'll think Tsunade is covering her back. Then all that remains is Tsunade who'll be easy to take care of.

 

[EZQ]

Kunoichi would win. Itachi can beat them all one on one but, tsunade + sakura in a healthy state they culd summon around 15% katsuyu or even more. Itachi gets outnumbered. His fire is fodder in front of temari's wind scale, and the only thing that remains is 3t genjutsu. But he'd have a hard time casting a powerful one on so many high level shinobis

 

[EZQ]

I think Itachi can win mid difficulty.

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who has better reactions than any of the kunoichi here because he's used to high speed combat in his chakra modes as well as the fact he spins around very fast using his sword dance. None of the kunoichi will be able to track his shunshin which can allow him to get behind anyone he wants to take out.

To avoid this, the kunoichi can group in a circular formation where they have no blind spot. In that case, Itachi can still defeat everyone other than Sakura and Tsunade one by one when he shunshins into their face and kills them with his sword.

None of the kunoichi are fast enough or have any technique that can actually hit Itachi while Itachi can hit whoever he wants.

Once the fight is down to Sakura and Tsunade. Itachi can then go on to use clone feints as well as

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them as a distraction while using a subtle genjutsu against Tsunade in such a manner that Sakura doesn't realize her master is under genjutsu. This allows Itachi to get behind Sakura and finish her off because she'll think Tsunade is covering her back. Then all that remains is Tsunade who'll be easy to take care of.

This implies they'd have physical contact. What if all of the kunoichi stand on top of giant katsuyu?

 

[Icelerate]

This implies they'd have physical contact. What if all of the kunoichi stand on top of giant katsuyu?

I conveniently restricted summons or else Itachi would have to deal with the super fast Kamatari and the super large Katsuyu. Itachi can no longer summon crows though.

If there were no restrictions, Sakura and Tsunade could simply use medical ninjutsu if Itachi stepped on Katsuyu liquid which is bound to happen. Also Itachi can't deal with Kamatari when he has to deal with all sorts of attacks simultaneously.

Edit: What if Sakura and Tsunade pump in a lot of chakra into Temari in order to increase her AoE to a level where Itachi is bound to get hit?

 

[EZQ]

I conveniently restricted summons or else Itachi would have to deal with the super fast Kamatari and the super large Katsuyu. Itachi can no longer summon crows though.

If there were no restrictions, Sakura and Tsunade could simply use medical ninjutsu if Itachi stepped on Katsuyu liquid which is bound to happen. Also Itachi can't deal with Kamatari when he has to deal with all sorts of attacks simultaneously.

Well without summons then i agree with your first post to some extent. I still dont see itachi winning med diff. If he wins, its a high diff definitely. Ino is the only chance for the females, i think they could pull it off.

 

[Icelerate]

Well without summons then i agree with your first post to some extent. I still dont see itachi winning med diff. If he wins, its a high diff definitely. Ino is the only chance for the females, i think they could pull it off.

Read my edit. Also why do you think Ino is a factor when she doesn't have a chance at hitting Itachi?

 

[EZQ]

Read my edit. Also why do you think Ino is a factor when she doesn't have a chance at hitting Itachi?

If Itachi ever lets his guard down (or his movements get restrained for a second) mind transfer could end it instantly. For example, not dodging Sakura's fist, and coming back to her body right before the impact. I think she's the only chance for Itachi not dodging.

 

[Icelerate]

If Itachi ever lets his guard down (or his movements get restrained for a second) mind transfer could end it instantly. For example, not dodging Sakura's fist, and coming back to her body right before the impact. I think she's the only chance for Itachi not dodging.

True, Ino and Kurenai are the only ones with the power to restrain Itachi so it makes sense for him to kill them off ASAP.

However, a boosted Temari's fuuton could overwhelm Itachi or at least force him to retreat which would allow Kurenai and Ino to do their thing.

 

[LoZelda101]

I conveniently restricted summons or else Itachi would have to deal with the super fast Kamatari and the super large Katsuyu. Itachi can no longer summon crows though.

If there were no restrictions, Sakura and Tsunade could simply use medical ninjutsu if Itachi stepped on Katsuyu liquid which is bound to happen. Also Itachi can't deal with Kamatari when he has to deal with all sorts of attacks simultaneously.

Edit: What if Sakura and Tsunade pump in a lot of chakra into Temari in order to increase her AoE to a level where Itachi is bound to get hit?

Why don't you just cut itachi's balls off while you're at it. lol

 

[LoZelda101]

without full experience and intel against him, itachi should win (assuming his healthy stamina/chakra is close to GKS sasuke's)

since sick itachi had low stamina, he trained himself how to use small amounts of chakra, however in return he benefited from it because it allowed him to use his jutsus precisely and at the most effective of times, even if the opponent had intel on how to counter it. (i'm assuming healthy itachi has sick itachi feats)

note1: just because someone can counter gen, still requires them to realize they're in it first. skilled genjutsu users like itachi can replicate real time to the point that even KB had to be told by itachi he was already in gen for him to break it.

note2: his shuriken/kunai skill and distraction is one if not the best in the series.

note3: giving itachi sasuke's sword was a big mistake :lol

note4: I skipped tenten and hinata, they're both featless (especially in manga) not worth my time.

note5: crow stun is severely underrated. it managed to distract DSM kabuto, naruto and ems sasuke.

note6: despite all the impressive feats itachi has done, we've yet to see itachi go all out killing intent.

acknowledging itachi's IQ. he'd keep his distance from tsunade and sakura until he takes out the fodder. likely he'd play it out with fire style jutsu as his first attack as bait to low key summon clone to take his place, -insert female- will block the attack (probably temari) which will turn out to be shurikens to neg temari(however they will dodge it), knowing tsunade or sakura, by then they'd had dashed towards itachi to CQC him however of course his precog and speed will make sure not to get hit. however the real itachi appears behind temari and decapitates her while he's at it since long range would be an annoyance for him. then the fake itachi tsunade and sakura were trying to finish off turned out to be a clone which disperse into crows while the real itachi finishes off ino. as sakura and tsunade turns around to see their dead teammates, itachi apologizes and said "they were a nuisance, so I had to take them out" since they're out in the ocean, the female's AOE is really not all that effective. at this point, their only savior is to tank itachi's attacks since they're clearly inferior to him in speed.

itachi uses fireball as a diversion to summon several clones to which the girls easily dodged, then sakura and tsunade stays close to each other to prepare for genjutsu and to not look at his eyes however itachi blitz towards tsunade to challenge her in CQC, he easily reacts to prevent from getting OTK'ed, while the sakura tries to get him but itachi easily kicks her to the side effortlessly. meanwhile, the shadow clone appearing several feat back away from the fight uses his expert kunai skills to avoid detection and stab tsunade in the back of the head, it distracts her long enough for the real itachi to genjutsu her, while the remaining clone explodes it underwater to distract sakura long before she realizes tsunade is trapped in genjutsu, then finishes her by decapitating her. as for tsunade. it's up to itachi to decide to cut off her head, activate susanoo and seal her away or fondle her before she realizes she's in a genjutsu.

 

[Icelerate]

without full experience and intel against him, itachi should win (assuming his healthy stamina/chakra is close to GKS sasuke's)

since sick itachi had low stamina, he trained himself how to use small amounts of chakra, however in return he benefited from it because it allowed him to use his jutsus precisely and at the most effective of times, even if the opponent had intel on how to counter it. (i'm assuming healthy itachi has sick itachi feats)

note1: just because someone can counter gen, still requires them to realize they're in it first. skilled genjutsu users like itachi can replicate real time to the point that even KB had to be told by itachi he was already in gen for him to break it.

note2: his shuriken/kunai skill and distraction is one if not the best in the series.

note3: giving itachi sasuke's sword was a big mistake :lol

note4: I skipped tenten and hinata, they're both featless (especially in manga) not worth my time.

note5: crow stun is severely underrated. it managed to distract DSM kabuto, naruto and ems sasuke.

acknowledging itachi's IQ. he'd keep his distance from tsunade and sakura until he takes out the fodder. likely he'd play it out with fire style jutsu as his first attack as bait, -insert female- will block the attack (probably temari) which will turn out to be shurikens to neg temari(however they will dodge it), knowing tsunade or sakura, by then they'd had dashed towards itachi to CQC him however of course his precog and speed will make sure not to get hit. however the real itachi appears behind temari and decapitates her and finishes off ino and while he's at it since long range would be an annoyance for him. then the fake itachi tsunade and sakura were trying to finish off turned out to be a clone which disperse into clones while the real itachi finishes off tenten. as sakura and tsunade turns around to see their dead teammates, itachi apologizes and said "they were a nuisance, so I had to take them out" since they're out in the ocean, the female's AOE is really not all that effective. at this point, their only savior is to tank itachi's attacks since they're clearly inferior to him in speed.

itachi uses fireball as a diversion to summon several clones to which the girls easily dodged, then sakura and tsunade stays close to each other to prepare for genjutsu and to not look at his eyes however itachi blitz towards tsunade to challenge her in CQC, he easily reacts to prevent from getting OTK'ed, while the sakura tries to get him but itachi easily kicks her to the side effortlessly. meanwhile, the shadow clone appearing several feat back away from the fight uses his expert kunai skills to avoid detection and stab tsunade in the back of the head, it distracts her long enough for the real itachi to genjutsu her, while the remaining clone explodes it underwater to distract sakura long before she realizes tsunade is trapped in genjutsu, then finishes her by decapitating her. as for tsunade. it's up to itachi to decide to cut off her head, activate susanoo and seal her away or fondle her before she realizes she's in a genjutsu.

I've given Tenten the Sage's fan. Now with Temari and Tenten combining their attacks which are enhanced by Tsunade and Sakura, would the combo be too much for Itachi to handle?

 

[LoZelda101]

I've given Tenten the Sage's fan. Now with Temari and Tenten combining their attacks which are enhanced by Tsunade and Sakura, would the combo be too much for Itachi to handle?

Depends on the distance and who makes the first move.


with sharingan, He should be able to precog long before the whole female team pulls off that full combo. itachi was fast enough to react to kakashi's water style and still managed to get behind him to which even kurenai couldn't keep up.

his running speed feats against kakashi and KB ensures he knows how to quickly close the gap and distance himself effortlessly, where (E)MS sasuke usually would have to depend on his susanoo rib cage or partner to intervene.

and his ability to put pressure on opponents and still manage to make a hand seal assured me it'd be no problem to replicate the same scenerio i've given. I think in order to neg itachi in this case, would require them use shadow clones or some kind of sensory skill, I don't know if any of them have that.

I think the female team would have a better chance to neg itachi on ground, however the shannaro duo's AOE would be a double edge sword if they're all grouped together, and if they're seperated from each other, that'd only benefit itachi more. imo, I think the only way to neg itachi or push him to MS lvl is if you have an legit counter, if you don't. you don't stand a chance at winning (unless it's the ridiculous rikudou related nonsense kishi incorporated in the climax of the war arc)

 

[Icelerate]

Depends on the distance and who makes the first move.


with sharingan, He should be able to precog long before the whole female team pulls off that full combo. itachi was fast enough to react to kakashi's water style and still managed to get behind him to which even kurenai couldn't keep up.

Itachi was very close to Kakashi in that scenario. That water style was just a defensive barrier. A fuuton + katon combo used by enhanced Temari + enhanced Tenten should far surpass Kakuzu's katon + fuuton combo.

his running speed feats against kakashi and KB ensures he knows how to quickly close the gap and distance himself effortlessly, where (E)MS sasuke usually would have to depend on his susanoo rib cage or partner to intervene.

But Tenten and Temari would simply spam their attacks in front of them forcing Itachi to veer off around but he'd have to travel dozens of meters and by that time, they would simply adjust their direction. In the scenarios involving Kakashi and KB, the distance was smaller and Itachi didn't have to worry about running into a powerful katon.

and his ability to put pressure on opponents and still manage to make a hand seal assured me it'd be no problem to replicate the same scenerio i've given. I think in order to neg itachi in this case, would require them use shadow clones or some kind of sensory skill, I don't know if any of them have that.

He can use clones but AoE attacks can deal with them unless of course the clones are also fast enough to dodge those attacks and they all go in opposite directions. Ino is a skilled sensor and

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and number of clones at all times.

I think the female team would have a better chance to neg itachi on ground, however the shannaro duo's AOE would be a double edge sword if they're all grouped together, and if they're seperated from each other, that'd only benefit itachi more. imo, I think the only way to neg itachi or push him to MS lvl is if you have an legit counter, if you don't. you don't stand a chance at winning (unless it's the ridiculous rikudou related nonsense kishi incorporated in the climax of the war arc)

The water does help Itachi cast water fangs all around them like he did against part one Kakashi. Though the water fangs in front of Tenten and Temari get overtaken by their ninjutsu while Hinata can deal with the ones behind them with a well aimed vacuum palm much like against the Juubi spikes.

Eventually, Kurenai's genjutsu will get him and that will give them the opportunity to finish him off.

 

[LoZelda101]

Itachi was very close to Kakashi in that scenario. That water style was just a defensive barrier. A fuuton + katon combo used by enhanced Temari + enhanced Tenten should far surpass Kakuzu's katon + fuuton combo.

Lol gotta be honest, this is the first 1vs multi foes debate I had that didn't involve naruto, madara and hashirama. especially with such restrictions like susanoo, so i can't fully grasp how'd it play out.

But Tenten and Temari would simply spam their attacks in front of them forcing Itachi to veer off around but he'd have to travel dozens of meters and by that time, they would simply adjust their direction. In the scenarios involving Kakashi and KB, the distance was smaller and Itachi didn't have to worry about running into a powerful katon.

Yeah, that's why I said it depends on the distance they're in. personally considering itachi's IQ, he wouldn't even initate a fight if he were that far away to give long distance users the advantage, so i'm assuming they're about mid distance. I would factor in subsitution spam to get closer, but I don't exactly know how effective that is considering the terrain they're in. now again: IF the distance is as close as i'd originally thought, itachi should be the first to make the move before all of them or atleast before both foes create their combo.

He can use clones but AoE attacks can deal with them unless of course the clones are also fast enough to dodge those attacks and they all go in opposite directions. Ino is a skilled sensor and

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and number of clones at all times.

I thought the clones were fast enough to not only go underwater, but transform and fool kurenai, no?

water does help Itachi cast water fangs all around them like he did against part one Kakashi. Though the water fangs in front of Tenten and Temari get overtaken by their ninjutsu while Hinata can deal with the ones behind them with a well aimed vacuum palm much like against the Juubi spikes.

right, but will they noticed it's just a distaction for another clone? :lol the battle between kakashi and itachi in part 1 feats is the massive amount of speed and spam it did with clones to close in on each other to the point it fooled 3 jounin's. overall, I think depending on the distance. if it's close-mid, itachi can win. itachi just like kakashi, is that he is able to manipulate clones in any distraction, whether it's smoke bombs(naruto) or trees(kakashi vs hidan) or the opponents own attack, what's to stop itachi from using that fire/wind combo as his distraction for the clones?

Eventually, Kurenai's genjutsu will get him and that will give them the opportunity to finish him off.

Well that depends how skilled her genjutsu is. if she starts it as an "obviously an genjutsu" like she did against itachi the first time, it's likely he'll neg that and still react in time before getting solo'ed by another femme. lol also, I didn't even factor her into this debate, still use to her being a preggo. :lol

edit: personally, if I do give the girls the win. it's only because kishi didn't reveal most of itachi's arsenal.

 

[Observer]

Pwns everyone except Temari, obviously. Not even Itachi is a universe buster.

 

[Jinrou]

I actually think the Kunoichi would win this. Anko isn't needed in this tbh but they will overwhelm Itachi imo

The major players for me in this include:
- Tsunade(because of her 5 in taijutsu)
- Sakura (who could support Tsunade in a taijutsu fight (even though her taijutsu ability isn't up to par) because of Byakugou)
- Kurenai(because you don't need to look into her eyes before you are trapped in her genjutsu + fast reactions)
- Hinata(she assisted Ino in sniping her consciousness into Obito from a distance + Byakugan)
- Temari (fast reactions)

lol almost all :lol but first a few things for consideration. Doesn't MS increase body abilities? Like Itachi's speed feats are because of MS?
Anyway, senju and uchiha were the most powerful and rival clans and despite the ability of precog for 3T sharingan which most of the uchiha have, the senju could fight on par with them. Tsunade is a senju and can fight on par with a 3 tomoe solely because of this imo.

Here's how i see it play out.

Kurenai, Ino, Hinata and Temari retreat a bit while Tsunade and Sakura engage in CQC. Tenten retreats farther than them. Sasuke's sword isn't an issue since it gets tanked by impalimg it into Sakura or Tsunade and it's rid of quickly.

Hinata has byakugan and should be able to distinguish an explosive clone (Kakashi could with sharingan) or the crow clones in general since they aren't kagebunshin and warn Sakura and Tsunade if that's the case. Tsunade can tank an explosive clone anyway as she tanked her body been ripped at the speed of light.

Itachi might escape the initial charge of CQC and look to target Hinata because of her eyes. He shunshins behind her to kill her but Kurenai who is beside Hinata as a precaution and has fast reactions is able to thwart that. Temari can too because Sharingan is not like Byakugan and when he's trying to settle with Kurenai he leaves himself open for Temari to harm him.

Itachi definitely retreats and probably prepares a katon to target them all but Tenten with the sage fan can counter that. At this point Tsunade and Sakura catch up to Itachi and engage in CQC again..he could use the clones again but what is the essence when Hinata can see through it?

Kurenai can target who she wants to put in genjutsu as she caught Itachi and Kisame in genjutsu without affecting Asuma [

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Either this scenario or Hinata helps Ino snipe her consciousness into him at some point and Ino walks him over to Tsunade who wrecks him with a punch. Ino leaves at the last second. Her war arc Shintenshin has considerably improved in speed. [

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They are just too many and too skilled for a 3 tomoe user to take them all at once. Different plans can be devised. The lowest in intelligence is Ino as at the third databook with a point of 3 which is still above average.

He probably defeats them all one on one bar Tsunade imo but they are too many and would overwhelm him.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Itachi relies too much on his MS when fighting strong opponents, he doesn't have many finisher jutsu if it doesn't involve MS.

Swap Itachi for Adult Sasuke minus the Ems and the rinnegan and he stomps.

Sasuke's got chidori variations, amazing fire variations and Kirin. If Itachi was more destructive with 3T than I would give it to him but he isn't.

 

[LoZelda101]

I actually think the Kunoichi would win this. Anko isn't needed in this tbh but they will overwhelm Itachi imo

The major players for me in this include:
- Tsunade(because of her 5 in taijutsu)
- Sakura (who could support Tsunade in a taijutsu fight (even though her taijutsu ability isn't up to par) because of Byakugou)
- Kurenai(because you don't need to look into her eyes before you are trapped in her genjutsu + fast reactions)
- Hinata(she assisted Ino in sniping her consciousness into Obito from a distance + Byakugan)
- Temari (fast reactions)

lol almost all :lol but first a few things for consideration. Doesn't MS increase body abilities? Like Itachi's speed feats are because of MS?
Anyway, senju and uchiha were the most powerful and rival clans and despite the ability of precog for 3T sharingan which most of the uchiha have, the senju could fight on par with them. Tsunade is a senju and can fight on par with a 3 tomoe solely because of this imo.

Here's how i see it play out.

Kurenai, Ino, Hinata and Temari retreat a bit while Tsunade and Sakura engage in CQC. Tenten retreats farther than them. Sasuke's sword isn't an issue since it gets tanked by impalimg it into Sakura or Tsunade and it's rid of quickly.

Hinata has byakugan and should be able to distinguish an explosive clone (Kakashi could with sharingan) or the crow clones in general since they aren't kagebunshin and warn Sakura and Tsunade if that's the case. Tsunade can tank an explosive clone anyway as she tanked her body been ripped at the speed of light.

Itachi might escape the initial charge of CQC and look to target Hinata because of her eyes. He shunshins behind her to kill her but Kurenai who is beside Hinata as a precaution and has fast reactions is able to thwart that. Temari can too because Sharingan is not like Byakugan and when he's trying to settle with Kurenai he leaves himself open for Temari to harm him.

Itachi definitely retreats and probably prepares a katon to target them all but Tenten with the sage fan can counter that. At this point Tsunade and Sakura catch up to Itachi and engage in CQC again..he could use the clones again but what is the essence when Hinata can see through it?

Kurenai can target who she wants to put in genjutsu as she caught Itachi and Kisame in genjutsu without affecting Asuma [

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Either this scenario or Hinata helps Ino snipe her consciousness into him at some point and Ino walks him over to Tsunade who wrecks him with a punch. Ino leaves at the last second. Her war arc Shintenshin has considerably improved in speed. [

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They are just too many and too skilled for a 3 tomoe user to take them all at once. Different plans can be devised. The lowest in intelligence is Ino as at the third databook with a point of 3 which is still above average.

He probably defeats them all one on one bar Tsunade imo but they are too many and would overwhelm him.

lol you know nothing of itachi. All of his speed feats were done with 3T not MS, also itachi =/= 3t users. he casually solo'ed 3 of the elite uchiha officers with just 3T and called out his clan for being weaklings and last but not least, his explosion clone is the shadow clone. hinata's byakugan is not figuring that out, the reason kakashi did is because the clone was transformed as kakashi. obviously he would know it's a clone and even if wasn't, it still fooled kurenai.

as for big breast, tsunade is half senju and she only manged to get a plus on madara because he clearly held back was focused on the other kages. also what is with the lack of genjutsu in your scenerio? and even if CQC with tsunade or sakura, itachi's IQ would know to easily avoid them and take out hinata with a clone (which alone is strong enough to fight the other females)


@haterftw

yes destructive is nice, but that's the bueaty of itachi. he doesn't need that crap to rape. genjutsu and clone bait backed by his precog and speed feats is enough. the only true deciding factor here in his defeat is simply the fire/wind combo w/ ino's sensory. he doesn't need to cop out with susanoo.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Sakura or tsunade allow would be highly difficult for him to defeat , having the both of them plus others is overkill

Did someone say Itachi can outsmart tsunade and Sakura in h2h combat ?

First of all Sakura is smarter than Itachi by feats, tsunade is a genius in h2h combat she just fights wrecklessly in Byakugou mode .

Genjutsu isn't working, tsunade looked madara in the eyes while punching him and breaking his susanoo, but when Ay did the same thing madara genjutsus him

Byakugou would instantly counter genjutsu