He power gap between Naruto & Sasuke was embarrassing..

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It seems Orochimaru wasn't wrong.

It says a lot that Orochimaru had just experienced the power of a kyubi and was able to say with confidence that Sasuke power was still greater than it.

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Sasukes speed>>>>>

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Kurama couldn't even help his homeboy out smh..

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Orochimaru saved the day though & people say he's a bad guy.

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It leads one to wonder,

what did Jiraiya teach him in those three years of training?






 

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You are talking about two different characters. Orochimaru fought the Kyuubi not Naruto. Naruto could never even lay a hand on Orochimaru at the time with his own power. Get real.
 

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Naruto's training, in a way, was really disappointing, but it's even more disappointing that Kakashi had to go and train him a couple arcs later. That just proves that his training was not successful at all. The only thing he got from it was a larger Rasengan which tired him out from just one use. That Genjutsu tactic is pretty much useless against anyone of Sasuke/Itachi's level.

His 2 years only improved on his basic skills and even then they were quite average at best when you compare him to Sakura and Sasuke's performance. Even his Kyubi submerges seemed worse than pre timeskip and he was supposed to get better?

Yeah right. Naruto should have learned about his wind affinity and more sage techniques during his training with Jiraiya.

IMO his training was a complete failure. Sasuke and Sakura were much better in their improvements than him.
 

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You are talking about two different characters. Orochimaru fought the Kyuubi not Naruto. Naruto could never even lay a hand on Orochimaru at the time with his own power. Get real.
Are you reading? The only reason why I mentioned Orochimaru is becuase he solidified Sasukes superiority over Naruro even with the addition of kurama's chakra.
 

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Are you reading? The only reason why I mentioned Orochimaru is becuase he solidified Sasukes superiority over Naruro even with the addition of kurama's chakra.
O okay. Naruto was weak at that time because he didn't learn sage mode yet. NAruto can only use rasengan and kage bunshin
 

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Your thread is a little outdated. Naruto in the end became superior to Sasuke. Thats all that matters.

Besides this thread only shows how much Naruto improved by the end of the series. Where as Sasuke regressed from having the upperhand in the begining of the series.
 
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The problem is with naruto himself, he depended too much on others to teach him, he never thought to teach himself.

Sasuke not only learned from oro but went on to develop techniques oro wasn't even aware of.

Naruto in comparison had to be told that he could improve the rasengan, had to be told that he could use KB for training etc. I have never seen naruto actively try to learn or create a jutsu on his own without guidance or someone to suggest he do so.

This is the reason why he was so poor after the time skip, he didn't put much effort into independent learning and depended way too much on his teachers.
 
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