[Discussion] He never showed 'his pace' again!

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One of Mingos 'secret technique' that Law and [somehow] Usopp (which leads me to believe it isn't so 'secret' unless he's been a super secret double-timing Strawhat spying Donquixote Pirate since chapter 1) mentioned in chapter 700, His Pace, was never explored any further.

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It really surprised me when he was defeated without any further explanation for this, especially since it was revealed on a 100th chapter and was able to put Luffy in a trance over the phone. A couple theories state this was a 'corrupted version of CoC' which seems highly possible, but manga confirmation would be nice.

Thoughts on this?
 
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Is this a serious post? Although the translations are a little different to the one I read, even from this page I can tell exactly what's happened and a technique called "pace" isn't being used and in fact, it's not a technique at all... Law is trying to tell Luffy not to let Doffy control him and with Luffy being very very susceptible to meat, that's what's put him in a "meat" trance, not CoC or anything lol.
As for Usopp, he knows exactly what Luffy is like, in the way that I previously mentioned and doesn't want him to fall for Doffy's temptations of meat, which is why he quotes Law's previous comment.

And a couple of theories? Where are these theories, I've never seen anything posted on this...
 

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Is this a serious post? Although the translations are a little different to the one I read, even from this page I can tell exactly what's happened and a technique called "pace" isn't being used and in fact, it's not a technique at all... Law is trying to tell Luffy not to let Doffy control him and with Luffy being very very susceptible to meat, that's what's put him in a "meat" trance, not CoC or anything lol.
As for Usopp, he knows exactly what Luffy is like, in the way that I previously mentioned and doesn't want him to fall for Doffy's temptations of meat, which is why he quotes Law's previous comment.

And a couple of theories? Where are these theories, I've never seen anything posted on this...
The chapter is called variations of 'his pace' in all translations, it was specifically referred to as an attack in the manga and the anime refers to it as an attack as well.

[video=youtube;xNZfDTmNuUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNZfDTmNuUg[/video]

This is the theory I was talking about.
 
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Couldn't you consider Doflamingos "pace" his ability to manipulate his enemies emotions on his own. in fact thats all it is. its not a special technique at all. Law admitted that he fell for Doflamingos tactics the first time he fought him by green bit, he let Doffy get him angry. He also warns luffy not to let him do the same thing when they were first confronting him together. That was when luffy hit doffy with red hawk. You can consider it an ability but its nothing special, its just words that he uses.
 

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is the manga better than anime? i want to get through the series fast
Well an episode of the anime is equal to or in some cases less than 1 chapter of the manga. you could probably read at least 5 chapters in the time it takes to sit and watch an episode of the anime so I could say that the manga is muuuuch faster. Also the manga isn't dragged out and the art quality of the manga is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The animation quality of the anime.
 

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It's not some kind of physical technique or ability, let alone a 'secret technique'. There are no need for theories for something like this because it's nothing complicated nor particularly special. There is nothing to theorize about, DD is simply a very intelligent and charismatic person and he knows how to play people. It has nothing to do with any kind of fantasy ability or technique, it's the complete opposite of that. It's a down to the core human quality many people in the real world have, in fact there are many people who are required to have it for their jobs. He simply knows what makes people tick and acts according to it. He knew that Luffy would do anything for the Mera Mera no Mi, hence he orchestrated that entire tournament. In the end it's just a social skill, he knows how to deal with people efficiently, there is nothing mysterious about it, but the degree to which it can be used, depends severely on the kind of people you deal with and the situations they are in and the current situation is the worst possible scenario for DD. Everyone knows what kind of person he is, everyone has seen it, so trying to sway people at this point has become impossible, he however has been using it nearly the entire time as it's part of his personality.

The only reason Usopp described it as a 'secret technique', is because otherwise Luffy wouldn't be able to understand it. If you want another example, Boa Hancock has something similar. She knows that the human heart is very easily taken by her beauty and that she can get away with nearly everything just because she is beautiful, she doesn't need her DF ability for that.
 
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The chapter is called variations of 'his pace' in all translations, it was specifically referred to as an attack in the manga and the anime refers to it as an attack as well.

[video=youtube;xNZfDTmNuUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNZfDTmNuUg[/video]

This is the theory I was talking about.
First off, that link doesn't work, and secondly, the only person who referred it to as an attack was Usopp and he's a liar, he was just trying to say anything that would make Luffy not put them in danger as he has a knack for doing just that... Law, was basically just telling Luffy to not let Doflamingo control the flow of the conversation so that they could remain in the stronger position for the deal they were about to make. This is such a simple play of words that I don't get how this is an issue, situations like this happen constantly throughout this manga which leads me to believe this is just a troll post :/

And after just reading it, Caliburn's post above explains in a lot better detail than mine, please give it a read!
 

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One of Mingos 'secret technique' that Law and [somehow] Usopp (which leads me to believe it isn't so 'secret' unless he's been a super secret double-timing Strawhat spying Donquixote Pirate since chapter 1) mentioned in chapter 700, His Pace, was never explored any further.

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It really surprised me when he was defeated without any further explanation for this, especially since it was revealed on a 100th chapter and was able to put Luffy in a trance over the phone. A couple theories state this was a 'corrupted version of CoC' which seems highly possible, but manga confirmation would be nice.

Thoughts on this?
I think you're over thinking things or you're trolling. Usopp didn't know anything about it he was just mimicking Law because he's scared of trouble. His Pace is also just a way of saying don't get sucked into his game, don't fight his fight. His Pace isn't a special tech or anything, it's just Doffy psyching out his opponent.
 
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