[Discussion] 'He' is the Juubi

[Silverblade]

Of course Obito is the damn Juubi. Why the hell would he make a flamboyant facial expression saying "O..Bit..O?"

The Juubi is in charge right now.

 

[Mr Hiru]

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Look at my last added PS (PS2). Naruto deducted this based on what he sensed ("Which means..."). He could be right, or he could be wrong.

And read objectively what I said... do you have any rational answer to the fact of Obito using a high level fuuinjutsu to seal the Ten Tails after all the chakra he used in this war, with no resting? Do you know that Kakashi was able to transport Hachibi to the Kamui Dimension only when he got Kurama's chakra, right? Can you tell me how was Obito able to Kamui or Seal the Juubi in his current state? If you don't have an answer, then you should consider the possibility I'm giving.

I'm not saying that what I said is true, but it's not false either. It's just possible (highly if you ask me, because I don't believe that Obito has infinite chakra as much guys are assuming in NB).

 

[Bansho Tenin]

Naruto is the only person in the Manga who can feel/recognize this. Kurama is helping him.

And we do not know how a person that already has the sharingan and the rinnengan is affected when they become a jinchurriki.

 

[GhostProject]

Look at my last added PS (PS2). Naruto deducted this based on what he sensed ("Which means..."). He could be right, or he could be wrong.

And read objectively what I said... do you have any rational answer to the fact of Obito using a high level fuuinjutsu to seal the Ten Tails after all the chakra he used in this war, with no resting? Do you know that Kakashi was able to transport Hachibi to the Kamui Dimension only when he got Kurama's chakra, right? Can you tell me how was Obito able to Kamui or Seal the Juubi in his current state? If you don't have an answer, then you should consider the possibility I'm giving.

I'm not saying that what I said is true, but it's not false either. It's just possible (highly if you ask me, because I don't believe that Obito has infinite chakra as much guys are assuming in NB).

Don't underestimate a man whose ambition is to become a god. It is clear that there is a connection with the hand seals and sealing the Juubi within himself, however, I too dislike the idea to say that it was plot no jutsu, so try this rationale.

Naruto states that the hand seals were different from the start, so he wasn't performing Rinne Tensei, yet Obito's hair was still turning white as if it was Rinne Tensei. If we assume that Obito was pretty much out of chakra, then he must've used part of his own life force to seal it within himself.

OT: The Juubi does indeed appear to have some influence over Obito, but we will continue to see conscious slips from Obito. At least until his Rinnegan starts sprouting Tomoe or a Juubi Eye comes out of his forehead and he starts talking like Aizen Lol

 

[Mr Hiru]

Don't underestimate a man whose ambition is to become a god. It is clear that there is a connection with the hand seals and sealing the Juubi within himself, however, I too dislike the idea to say that it was plot no jutsu, so try this rationale.

Naruto states that the hand seals were different from the start, so he wasn't performing Rinne Tensei, yet Obito's hair was still turning white as if it was Rinne Tensei. If we assume that Obito was pretty much out of chakra, then he must've used part of his own life force to seal it within himself.

OT: The Juubi does indeed appear to have some influence over Obito, but we will continue to see conscious slips from Obito. At least until his Rinnegan starts sprouting Tomoe or a Juubi Eye comes out of his forehead and he starts talking like Aizen Lol

This is a logical point of view. But Obito doesn't have a high lifeforce as the Sage or Nagato, so his life is nothing compared to what is needed to seal that entity. I even could believe that the seals Obito made was related to the aura surrounding Madara.

Anyways, I think my statements are possible, but not necessarily a truth.

If there isn't proof that counters any of my statements, then my hypothesis is just good.

 

[GhostProject]

This is a logical point of view. But Obito doesn't have a high lifeforce as the Sage or Nagato, so his life is nothing compared to what is needed to seal that entity. I even could believe that the seals Obito made was related to the aura surrounding Madara.

Anyways, I think my statements are possible, but not necessarily a truth.

If there isn't proof that counters any of my statements, then my hypothesis is just good.

Indeed *_* I especially like the comparison that his emotions seem to be infant/childlike. We'll probably see something close to this, but I think Obito's recognition of his name as a conscious slip is an important factor in the equation. I wouldn't count Obito out yet

 

[beast7960]

Look at my last added PS (PS2). Naruto deducted this based on what he sensed ("Which means..."). He could be right, or he could be wrong.

And read objectively what I said... do you have any rational answer to the fact of Obito using a high level fuuinjutsu to seal the Ten Tails after all the chakra he used in this war, with no resting? Do you know that Kakashi was able to transport Hachibi to the Kamui Dimension only when he got Kurama's chakra, right? Can you tell me how was Obito able to Kamui or Seal the Juubi in his current state? If you don't have an answer, then you should consider the possibility I'm giving.

I'm not saying that what I said is true, but it's not false either. It's just possible (highly if you ask me, because I don't believe that Obito has infinite chakra as much guys are assuming in NB).

Nagato had no chakra left when he revived everyone, and neither did obito, which is why both of their hair turned white.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Nagato had no chakra left when he revived everyone, and neither did obito, which is why both of their hair turned white.

Nagato would been dead if he hadn't chakra left, this is a basic statement on the whole manga, and it was explicited when Sasuke asked Kakashi what happened if he surpasses the limit of chidoris he could executed in a day.

The reason Nagato was able to revive a lot of Shinobi was him being an Uzumaki with a tremendous lifeforce and physical energy, so his conversion rate of lifeforce to chakra was high.

In the other hand, Obito is an Uchiha... even if he had a high spiritual energy, his body don't have a high lifeforce (he had half of Zetsu body). This, and the fact that Zetsu wasn't as strong as Hashirama, so the current Obito's DNA isn't even near to the quality present in Nagato's DNA.

This said, it's not very wise to compare Obito with Nagato, when they have very different DNA to start with.

 

[Smd]

I think he's a but hurt fan But Obito is Obito... Also he>Ur favorite character

yeah your right.

denial is a powerfull emtion.

 

[altaire uchiha]

yeah your right.

denial is a powerfull emtion.

who is that chick?

 

[Mr Hiru]

I don't know but her sarcastic comments are kinda funny.

 

[GhostProject]

Nagato would been dead if he hadn't chakra left, this is a basic statement on the whole manga, and it was explicited when Sasuke asked Kakashi what happened if he surpasses the limit of chidoris he could executed in a day.

The reason Nagato was able to revive a lot of Shinobi was him being an Uzumaki with a tremendous lifeforce and physical energy, so his conversion rate of lifeforce to chakra was high.

In the other hand, Obito is an Uchiha... even if he had a high spiritual energy, his body don't have a high lifeforce (he had half of Zetsu body). This, and the fact that Zetsu wasn't as strong as Hashirama, so the current Obito's DNA isn't even near to the quality present in Nagato's DNA.

This said, it's not very wise to compare Obito with Nagato, when they have very different DNA to start with.

Obito accomplished it, the Senju Dna must have been enough life force and energies to use. He may not be equivalent to Hashirama's pure Senju life force and energy, or Nagato's Uzumaki life force that was used to raise multiple people, but he does have access to legitimate Senju Blood that will give his life force and physical energy a boost.

Naruto noticed the chakra moving into Obito at the moment he started the hand signs. His hair also turned white as someone who overuses their lifeforce for chakra does. The life force boost from his Senju Dna was enough, and never was required to be on Nagato's level to accomplish this feat.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Obito accomplished it, the Senju Dna must have been enough life force and energies to use. He may not be equivalent to Hashirama's pure Senju life force and energy, or Nagato's Uzumaki life force that was used to raise multiple people, but he does have access to legitimate Senju Blood that will give his life force and physical energy a boost.

Naruto noticed the chakra moving into Obito at the moment he started the hand signs. His hair also turned white as someone who overuses their lifeforce for chakra does. The life force boost from his Senju Dna was enough, and never was required to be on Nagato's level to accomplish this feat.

As I said before, Naruto 'deducted' that these seals were for Obito becoming a Jinchuuriki. But Naruto doesn't know about these sealing techniques. He could be right, he could be wrong...

 

[GhostProject]

As I said before, Naruto 'deducted' that these seals were for Obito becoming a Jinchuuriki. But Naruto doesn't know about these sealing techniques. He could be right, he could be wrong...

You just gotta trust in Naruto man

 

[Byron123]

I'm glad to see that there are still people around who think with subjectivity and don't jump into conclusions just because of their obession with their favourite characters.

 

[beast7960]

Nagato would been dead if he hadn't chakra left, this is a basic statement on the whole manga, and it was explicited when Sasuke asked Kakashi what happened if he surpasses the limit of chidoris he could executed in a day.

The reason Nagato was able to revive a lot of Shinobi was him being an Uzumaki with a tremendous lifeforce and physical energy, so his conversion rate of lifeforce to chakra was high.

In the other hand, Obito is an Uchiha... even if he had a high spiritual energy, his body don't have a high lifeforce (he had half of Zetsu body). This, and the fact that Zetsu wasn't as strong as Hashirama, so the current Obito's DNA isn't even near to the quality present in Nagato's DNA.

This said, it's not very wise to compare Obito with Nagato, when they have very different DNA to start with.

If minato can seal kurama into naruto while already being impaled, then an injured obito can seal the juubi into himself with madara controlling him.

 

[Mr Hiru]

If minato can seal kurama into naruto while already being impaled, then an injured obito can seal the juubi into himself with madara controlling him.

Minato said Kurama's Yin chakra was heavy, and then he died for the impale, because he hadn't any regenerative abilities. In the other hand Obito had Zetsu cells to regenerate himself, and based on their appearance before death/transformation, Minato was less exhausted than Obito.

...ah yes, and Minato found his own death using the Death Reaper Seal voluntarely, but Obito was forced to be turned into Jinchuuriki, so there isn't much of a point of comparison. Minato didn't die because of lack of chakra.