Having two gay parents will cause a dysfunctional family

[Saro1020]

By definition as of October 25th 2012 it's dysfunctional due to it not being what's considered normal in my country. However that label has no bearing on whether or not that home is a good home. It can be an amazing home but due to definition it's dysfunctional.

I hate to point this out, but it can't be considered thus by definition until it's widely accepted. I think it's pretty clear to say just from the feed back I've read, that it's not openly accepted. It can be your personal definition, but not a wide standing definition xd

 

[Unbiased]

I hate to point this out, but it can't be considered thus by definition until it's widely accepted. I think it's pretty clear to say just from the feed back I've read, that it's not openly accepted. It can be your personal definition, but not a wide standing definition xd

right I meant in regards to my country specifically lol

 

[Saro1020]

right I meant in regards to my country specifically lol

Lol. Well I think this was a very good debate. And if you have any further questions about anything, feel free to ask me anytime. With that, I am heading off for a bit. Going to listen to some music and play some ME3.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

I know who he is lol. More then likely 70 percent of active users on this base know.

Lol okay you almost gave me a heart attack , no seriously though lol

 

[SoundBar]

I wouldn't be as intelligent as I am today not because of having same gender parents but because I would of never questioned things in regards to what's normal.

Also moderators if you're reading this thanks for not closing this thread.

I think you're getting your wording wrong. Dysfunctional means not operating properly or deviating from the norms of social behavior. What is defining social behavior when two males or two females have a child? Is it the aspect that it is a homosexual relationship and not heterosexual? Is that what defines the social behavior that is abnormal? One could also say that they are perfectly normal, it is socially normal to want to pursue a family, so in a since, they are normal. Remember, language is Arbitrary, it is perceived only how someone defines it, and no matter what, it constantly changes.

I also have to dispute your definition on Dysfunctional family. A dysfunctional family is a family in which conflict, misbehavior, and often abuse on the part of individual members occur continually...etc. This definition has no bearing on abnormalities with the people themselves, but more with the behavior and dynamic of the family. A heterosexual family with an abusive father, suicidal teen-aged daughter and a pill popping mother is not "normal" because they are heterosexual, they are dysfunctional because of the dynamic each individual plays on the family that doesn't follow a social norm of what a family should be like.

 

[origin29]

Who gives a ****?

winner, winner, chicken parm dinner.

 

[UchihaBrat]

dysfunctional in regards to definition
By definition dysfunctional is outside the normal. Meaning until it is normal to have same gender parents by definition it's dysfunctional. I'm not saying the kid will grow up awkwardly but it sure wouldn't be a normal situation. Apparently people don't understand and are makings assumptions that i the child would be dysfunctional.
Aaaaand with this you wanted to say?

For the definition I used dictionary.com

Just that people are misunderstanding what dysfunctional means in the said sense??
Sure, it is quite important that everyone knows the difference if they're to hold a comprehensive discussion.
But really, say it out straight to our faces instead of doing it in this roundabout way, that which you really mean, because you sound like a kid trying to find a loophole in his parents' "No, you can't have that lollipop", so you pick another..

nothing is normal in reality

There is, and it's that which is regularly occurring. Now trying to figure out what that is, is not really hard, but takes time.

I'm not sure if you're just joking or if you're actually serious, but remembering some of your other posts I'd probably guess the latter.

Don't, leaving him be is for the best, it just is..

Edit: also what Soundbar says above^, mostly.

 

[Unbiased]

I think you're getting your wording wrong. Dysfunctional means not operating properly or deviating from the norms of social behavior. What is defining social behavior when two males or two females have a child? Is it the aspect that it is a homosexual relationship and not heterosexual? Is that what defines the social behavior that is abnormal? One could also say that they are perfectly normal, it is socially normal to want to pursue a family, so in a since, they are normal. Remember, language is Arbitrary, it is perceived only how someone defines it, and no matter what, it constantly changes.

I also have to dispute your definition on Dysfunctional family. A dysfunctional family is a family in which conflict, misbehavior, and often abuse on the part of individual members occur continually...etc. This definition has no bearing on abnormalities with the people themselves, but more with the behavior and dynamic of the family. A heterosexual family with an abusive father, suicidal teen-aged daughter and a pill popping mother is not "normal" because they are heterosexual, they are dysfunctional because of the dynamic each individual plays on the family that doesn't follow a social norm of what a family should be like.

Well dysfunctional means anything that deviates from what's normal but as satero put it.
What I'm trying to say is this: You can't claim something is normal or not normal. Because to do so you must first determine what is right and what isn't right. In this situation there is no fundamentally right or wrong way in which a home can function and exist in the world, as compared to saying that murder is right or wrong. Given this it means that you, by your definition of dysfunctional, have to list all households as dysfunctional or no household as dysfunctional. But even this puts a "right or wrong" spin on the situation. Of which there is none because as I've previously stated to determine whether some is right or wrong your looking at it from a individualistic view or a society view. These views are limiting in nature and in some cases (such as this one) attempt to force things into a black or white understanding.

So the only way to find out something is normal is find the most basic fundamental aspects of life which I believe is survival and reproduction due to everything developing in terms of sexuality and see if it violates any of the basic fundamentals. That's my theory though It still needs more refinement but in order to understand if anything is normal I know for a fact it needs to be studied at the most basic level.

 

[Young Thug]

> Implying that non-gay parents are exempt from being dysfunctional.

 

[Unbiased]

> Implying that non-gay parents are exempt from being dysfunctional.

unfortunately I never said that. I only said it puts a homosexual couple immediately in a dysfunctional family only in regards to definition. How they act and treat each other could mean it's not dysfunctional but according to definition since out deviates from the norm it's dysfunctional

 

[Saro1020]

Nice to see misunderstandings regarding the original post are still popping up. The original purpose was to state that home that have same *** parents are abnormal in society. Ample evidence to narrow down this view point have are been provided. I suggest reading some of the comments before blatantly posting but that's just me lol. xD

 

[shogun973]

2 males is very bad imagine walkin in on them when ur young... your life would be different

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

why do threads like this make it so far

 

[repulse]

Can you attest to this? Your name says Unbiased, but you clearly are biased. Were you raised by two gay parents? If not, then how can you say being in a family with two gay parents is dysfunctional?

 

[Shinobi Train]

Nice, this thread hasn't been closed yet, congrats. xd

OT: The real question though is how would humanity survive if everyone was gay? I realize this is a common question, but it's very valid. I'm certainly not an evolutionist, but if I was, I'd say homosexuality was against evolution simply because its very nature does not assist in the preservation of humanity. So really, there's nothing "functional" about a gay relationship in any way, shape or form.

 

[Saro1020]

Nice, this thread hasn't been closed yet, congrats. xd

OT: The real question though is how would humanity survive if everyone was gay? I realize this is a common question, but it's very valid. I'm certainly not an evolutionist, but if I was, I'd say homosexuality was against evolution simply because its very nature does not assist in the preservation of humanity. So really, there's nothing "functional" about a gay relationship in any way, shape or form.

I ask you a question in reply. What do you say to the heterosexuals that use contraceptives to prevent reproduction? This also goes against evolution yet is commonly accepted. Also your question is completely illogical in it's basis. The fact that you suggest 100% of individuals would be homosexual would be a push at an extremist view. Your view would suggest a complete lack of options within society. You also assume that in an all homosexual environment there wouldn't deviants to this if it was the case. Also what does oral intercourse, **** intercourse, masturbation play in the role of evolution? This things exist for individualized pleasure, and partner pleasure, and is apparent in heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual relationships.