Having Kurama isn't what makes Naruto special

[soparaamigoseeu]

I agree... But Naruto is still special with or without kurama's chakra...

 

[Gerkak]

no but with out it he would be fodderized. and naruto only has so much chakra be cause of the nine tails

Just stop what is sasuke without sharingan even sakura will solo him. Naruto has alot of chakra because of uzumaki DNA.

 

[AlphaScythian]

High chakra reserves are useless if your base stats are fodder level. SM doesnt cut it.
Through whole manga kurama was saving naruto's ass and does it up to now along with its powerful chakra that boosts naruto's performance.

 

[Smd]

omg lol.

w/o kurma naruto has Sage Mode Perfect with ma n pa

big deal.

 

[BlackFlame44]

omg lol.

w/o kurma naruto has Sage Mode Perfect with ma n pa

big deal.

Without sharingan Sasuke has..... Chidori

 

[Gerkak]

High chakra reserves are useless if your base stats are fodder level. SM doesnt cut it.
Through whole manga kurama was saving naruto's ass and does it up to now along with its powerful chakra that boosts naruto's performance.

his base stats won't be fodder if he is able to master sage mode. The thing people should understand is if you take something away the whole manga changes. If you take sasuke's sharingan he is fodder. if you take obitos sharingan and senju DNA he is worse than fodder. if you take kurama you have to give naruto's parents back. The argument that if someone didn't have that is stupid in my opinion.

 

[Microsword57]

Some Sasuke fanboys will go to unreal lengths to derail Nartuo's feats to make Sasuke look better. When people say anyone would be as strong Naruto if they had Kurama as well. However, the manga clearly states otherwise.

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It's very clear that it's not common to have someone to be compatible with a tailed beast. Also, Naruto trained to use Kurama's chakra, so there is skill involved.

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Also, some people actually claim that Naruto requires Kurama for SM. I'm not even joking. #82

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The above scan clearly proved that Naruto has immensely high chakra reserves, and that and a strong will is what's required for SM. Also, Naruto did comply with Yamato's suggestion.

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Since Naruto didn't have fox eyes or red chakra during training, he didn't have Kurama's support for SM.

This is so obvious that it doesn't need an explanation. However, the bashing is getting out of hand.

I Agree. Naruto is not special because of him having the Nine-tails. Even without Kurama he has enormous Chakra and Naruto was skilled enough to use Kurama and still use Sage mode with Kurama holding him back.

 

[Dantee]

why do Naruto fanboys make threads everytime a Sasuke fan bashes Naruto. lol

 

[AlphaScythian]

his base stats won't be fodder if he is able to master sage mode. The thing people should understand is if you take something away the whole manga changes. If you take sasuke's sharingan he is fodder. if you take obitos sharingan and senju DNA he is worse than fodder. if you take kurama you have to give naruto's parents back. The argument that if someone didn't have that is stupid in my opinion.

But sharingan is KKG, kurama is not so dont make silly comparisons.
Picture actual sasuke with KCM to understand mk?

 

[Turson]

High chakra reserves are useless if your base stats are fodder level. SM doesnt cut it.
Through whole manga kurama was saving naruto's ass and does it up to now along with its powerful chakra that boosts naruto's performance.

Hate is surely strong in this one.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

also it has been stated by tsunade that nobody could control the kyuubi like naruto evidence in naruto being the 2nd person to become friends with kurama the 1st being the sage

The problem with this is that naruto didn't control Kurama at all.Until meeting Killer Bee naruto had no control over Kurama.Even after taking Kurama chakra, naruto still couldn't control kurama.Only when Madara showed up and Kurama willingly gave his chakra to naruto because he didn't want to be control by Madara, that you can say naruto had full control over Kurama, with Kurama consent of course.So your Tsunade comment is either some bull%^&* you made up, which is highly likely, or was said in the manga long before naruto ever had control of kurama, which would make it bulls%^&* nevertheless.

kurama had nothing to do with naruto learning SM, i forget what scan it is but since naruto had kurama it was harder for naruto to even control his own chakra. So he always had to put in 2x the effort for anything.

This has been a repeated lie that for some reason get spread around the base like the common cold.Naruto had poor chakra control because of naruto , not kurama.

his base stats won't be fodder if he is able to master sage mode. The thing people should understand is if you take something away the whole manga changes. If you take sasuke's sharingan he is fodder. if you take obitos sharingan and senju DNA he is worse than fodder. if you take kurama you have to give naruto's parents back. The argument that if someone didn't have that is stupid in my opinion.

This make no sense.Why would we take away Sasuke and Obito's sharingan when it's there power?They are no some ouside sources, the sharingan is in Obito's and Sasuke's DNA.And if you take away Sasuke and Obito's sharingan, you have to take away Naruto high chakra reserves, meaning he can never become a Sage or even a jonin for that matter because Naruto high chakra is his only real advantage as a shinobi.Without it, naruto isn't skilled in any of the shinobi arts.Sasuke on the other hand would still be somewhere around Kakashi's level before the time skip.

 

[Smd]

why do Naruto fanboys make threads everytime a Sasuke fan bashes Naruto. lol

cuz they mad lol

 

[Turson]

This has been a repeated lie that for some reason get spread around the base like the common cold.Naruto had poor chakra control because of naruto , not kurama.

Actually, it was Ebisu who stated that Kyuubis chakra that was leaking from the seal was making Narutos own chakra unstable, and therefore hard to control.

 

[Cosman]

Without sharingan Sasuke has..... Chidori

Not true. He has a bad attitude as well.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

why do Naruto fanboys make threads everytime a Sasuke fan bashes Naruto. lol

It helps me let off some steam after dealing with idiots.

 

[Amaterasuice]

Without sharingan Sasuke has..... Chidori

You just took away Sasuke's genetics. Sasuke without his brother's eyes would be a better comparison.

It helps me let off some steam after dealing with idiots.

I agree with the fact that without Kurama, Naruto would still be mid/high kage level. But this thread won't change anything.

 

[Itachi Minato 🥈]

naruto is special because he is the main character. If he didnt have kurama he would have something else. Deal with sasuke fanboys. Oh and sasuke without ems= naruto SM

 

[Bronze]

lmao. lets see how many times kyuubi had to save naruto's ass:

1-against haku
2-against orochimaru in chunnin exam
3-summoning jutsu
4-against neji
5-against gaara
6-against itachi and kisame
7-against sasuke in valley
8-against 30% itachi
9-against deidara
10-against orochimaru
11-against pain
12-against Ay
13-against zetsu
14-against edo madara
15-against the jinch
16-against obito
17-against juubi
18-against juuobito

kyuubi had to save naruto so many times. so if it wasn't for kyuubi, naruto would be dead so he is nothing without it.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Actually, it was Ebisu who stated that Kyuubis chakra that was leaking from the seal was making Narutos own chakra unstable, and therefore hard to control.

Where is this manga scan of Ebisu saying it.

There is only a flashback of Kakashi saying

Well!on the other hand, it can also be said that because of the of the influence from the kyubi, who is at the root of that stamina...The chakra become more difficult to control

Pay close attention to the wording.Kakashi never said it was difficult to control because of the Kyubi, but it could be.That's not a definitive statement, just a assumptions.Furthermore, there are two parts Ebisu explain is neccessary for using a jutsu.Creating chakra and controling chakra.Naruto was inept at both creating chakra for his jutsus and controling it.Even if you take Kakashi assumptios as fact, that would still leave naruto inept at building up chakra which has nothing to do with the Kurama.

 

[Itachi Minato 🥈]

lmao. lets see how many times kyuubi had to save naruto's ass:

1-against haku
2-against orochimaru in chunnin exam
3-summoning jutsu
4-against neji
5-against gaara
6-against itachi and kisame
7-against sasuke in valley
8-against 30% itachi
9-against deidara
10-against orochimaru
11-against pain
12-against Ay
13-against zetsu
14-against edo madara
15-against the jinch
16-against obito
17-against juubi
18-against juuobito

kyuubi had to save naruto so many times. so if it wasn't for kyuubi, naruto would be dead so he is nothing without it.

half of these he didnt use the kyuubi and he was not in a life or death situation