Sasuke was stated to have potential that exceeds Madara and Naruto needed Kurama to fight on par with EMS Sasuke. Naruto's own Base Chakras can't get him to the point where his Bijuu Mode reaches Madara's level.
Have we even seen Sasukes final form?
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gerizzyYMcrew
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and naruto was compared to hashirama and sasuke needed itachi's eyes to ever combat SAGE MODE naruto again...or to ever see ever again for that matter...what is your point?...ps the manga scans?
Naruto's ability to use Senjutsu and his ability to cooperate with Tobirama was what was compared to Hashirama, not his potential or power.
Nope, Sasuke only needed EMS to compete with Naruto's Full Bijuu Mode.
Naruto's Chakras need to compare to Kurama's to reach a level even relevant to Madara which he can't do for obvious reasons.
Scan of Sasuke having potential to surpass Madara:
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gerizzyYMcrew
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you proved me right on naruto being compared to hashirama...which I commented
sasuke needed EMS to ****ing see...also what is the difference between sasuke's EMS and MS besides triviality??
that 3rd comment made no damn sense whatsoever...also I asked for manga scans of the original comment I replied to
I proved you wrong as his power or potential wasn't compared, so what you presented is irrelevant.
Edit: I also realize that my scan does show Tobirama comparing Naruto to Hashirama, but he compared their personalities which is made clear when he refers to Hashirama as stupid and and indulgent brat. It's interesting how Tobirama compares Sasuke to Madara in terms of power claiming that Sasuke has similar potential as Madara yet doesn't even compliment Naruto's power. Maybe because Sasuke had the potential to exceed what Naruto's capable of? :sdo:
Chakra Potency, Stamina, Chakra Volume, Stronger MS techniques. Massive difference.
And nope, Naruto was referring to MS Sasuke specifically. Naruto himself doesn't even know about the EMS, nor that he was actually blind.
You mean the scan saying that Sasuke's Potential > Madara's? Or the fact that BSM Naruto can't reach a level on par with Madara's?
I don't need Manga scans. BSM Naruto is vastly inferior to Madara due to the fact that Madara's PS easily overpowers Full Kurama. Naruto's own Chakra cannot reach a Volume or Potency comparable to 50% Kurama's which is what's needed for him to reach Full Kurama's Power (if we assume 2x 50% Kurama = Full Kurama despite the massive size difference), so Naruto cannot reach a level on par with Madara whereas Sasuke can.
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gerizzyYMcrew
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1. you took that quote and misrepresented facts...madara uchiha is inferior to hashirama senju...I guess sasuke is being compared to someone inferior to the destiny rival...also EMS sasuke is inferior to EMS madara...also madara himself dissed sasuke:
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2. oh really?...what feats prove that besides an everlasting MS?...that's you speculating and your words means next to nothing...also naruto knew about EMS because itachi uchiha told him about it:
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^^^ the fact that you do not even know about this yet claim to make sense of statements in the manga proves how much your comments are worth: next to nothing
3. lmaooo what?...
a- 50% kurama = PS as established by kishimoto himself:
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b- hashirama's wood golem was stated to be on par with kurama as stated by kishimoto himself:
Wood Release: Wood Golem Technique (木遁・木人の術, Mokuton: Mokujin no Jutsu)
Heading: Descending God, that makes everyone get crushed by their karma (repent for their sins)!
Classification: Ninjutsu/Kekkei Genkai
Rank: No Rank
Class: Offensive, Defensive
Range: —
User(s): Senju Hashirama, Tobi
← Hashirama used this technique to catch and return back Tailed Beast Balls with just one hand. A technique only achieved because of Hashirama's naturally (literally Chakra reserves in gene cells) large Chakra.
God of Ninja, Hashirama Senju, was very good at Ninjutsu. By given Chakra to make wood (Wood Release) grow faster, to take shape into very big/gigantic Wood Human. The giant excels in defense and offense, and has strong physical attacks. During the battle with Madara it was on par with the Nine Tails. The Wood Human head also can be a protective shelter for Hashirama, turning itself into defense of unrivaled sturdiness.
Heading: Descending God, that makes everyone get crushed by their karma (repent for their sins)!
Classification: Ninjutsu/Kekkei Genkai
Rank: No Rank
Class: Offensive, Defensive
Range: —
User(s): Senju Hashirama, Tobi
← Hashirama used this technique to catch and return back Tailed Beast Balls with just one hand. A technique only achieved because of Hashirama's naturally (literally Chakra reserves in gene cells) large Chakra.
God of Ninja, Hashirama Senju, was very good at Ninjutsu. By given Chakra to make wood (Wood Release) grow faster, to take shape into very big/gigantic Wood Human. The giant excels in defense and offense, and has strong physical attacks. During the battle with Madara it was on par with the Nine Tails. The Wood Human head also can be a protective shelter for Hashirama, turning itself into defense of unrivaled sturdiness.
c- wood golem is on par with madara's PS as established by kishimoto himself:
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d- you really set yourself to get debunked quickly do you?...lolololololol...by your own dumbass logic 100% kurama negg diffs madara's PS
How this thread turn into Naruto vs Sasuke? You little Naruto *****es cannot contain it, can you? Why must every thread suffer your girly whining ...
On topic: I don't think we ever did. I m willing to write Kishimoto a letter to write that part III that focuses on Taka and Hebi missions. I need to know what he did under Orochimaru. He knew Karin and Suigtesu before, which is why she was never surprised by his Hawk summon. Jugo didn't ask didn't ask about it either.
Not to mention an inept Minato wanker has no moral high ground to take when he believes that Minato's SM is fantastic and he has full control over it. I mean, I can go on and on, but that would be enough.
On topic: I don't think we ever did. I m willing to write Kishimoto a letter to write that part III that focuses on Taka and Hebi missions. I need to know what he did under Orochimaru. He knew Karin and Suigtesu before, which is why she was never surprised by his Hawk summon. Jugo didn't ask didn't ask about it either.
I hope to God you are not being serious and this is ****ing absurd ...
Don't even bother. This is THAT amazing guy who, somehow, I don't know how ... calculated that the dust from Naruto and Sasuke's attack on Madara's CTs could be assigned to either indiviual. He actually did that. One was large, so it was Naruto's. The other one was smaller, so Sasuke created that dust.
Not to mention an inept Minato wanker has no moral high ground to take when he believes that Minato's SM is fantastic and he has full control over it. I mean, I can go on and on, but that would be enough.
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Yet you purposely left out the last bit of the scan that talks about turning his Susanoo into a Mezo:
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"He's becoming a vessel for Susanoo" with nothing but exceptional Chakra Control that involves Sage's level of handling of his own Chakra (Turning PS into a Mezo and connecting it in a manner with himself that makes him a vessel) plus Merging Bijuu chakra forcefully far better than Naruto can even dream of. So, what did I miss?
I never expected this level of cheap trolling from you, because if he can do such a complex task on pure chakra control, handling different chakra densities at one time, Senjutsu proves to be a problem when Orochimaru confirms it that he has a knack for it? This is ... so cheap, lame and absurd. Congratulations, for sinking to an average Naruto fan’s level.
P.s: Kindly, post the FULL image, Dante. As it talks about Sasuke insane skill at controlling several chakra types at once and still doing so at the Sage's level.
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Just gonna start sitting these ones out. ^_^
Until every thread on the site becomes about Sausage anyhow. Which probably isn't far off. I miss the old NB members.
Until every thread on the site becomes about Sausage anyhow. Which probably isn't far off. I miss the old NB members.