Have the Sanins been surpassed by their young disciples ?

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Agree with most, I don't think Kabuto is any good w/o Oro's cells though, and I believe Sasuke surpassed Oro when he unlocked MS. I really don't see the difference power wise between EMS and MS, other than with EMS you have no eye blindness.

Also, people say Naruto surpassed Jman when he got Sage mode:

I strongly disagree. Naruto had a "perfect" sage mode, but it only lasted a couple minutes. With ma and pa on his shoulders jman's lasted a whole lot longer, and he utilized more techs imo. I mean, w/o knowing what the hell Pain was, Jman technically killed 4 of them, although 3 were revived immediately. Naruto got 5 of them before his little rampage, with info & 4 summons. (Ma & pa, Gamabunta, and the other 2 giant toads)
 
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Simplified said:
Agree with most, I don't think Kabuto is any good w/o Oro's cells though, and I believe Sasuke surpassed Oro when he unlocked MS. I really don't see the difference power wise between EMS and MS, other than with EMS you have no eye blindness.

Also, people say Naruto surpassed Jman when he got Sage mode:

I strongly disagree. Naruto had a "perfect" sage mode, but it only lasted a couple minutes. With ma and pa on his shoulders jman's lasted a whole lot longer, and he utilized more techs imo. I mean, w/o knowing what the hell Pain was, Jman technically killed 4 of them, although 3 were revived immediately. Naruto got 5 of them before his little rampage, with info & 4 summons. (Ma & pa, Gamabunta, and the other 2 giant toads)
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Cuz pa and ma was gathering nature chakra for Jman... so you have to count shadow clones of naturo in your analysis of the sage mode duration if you want to be fair.
 
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Sageofthepath said:
Cuz pa and ma was gathering nature chakra for Jman... so you have to count shadow clones of naturo in your analysis of the sage mode duration if you want to be fair.
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in terms of Sage mode, Itt was Stated by Pa that he surpassed Jiraiya, thats why sage mode was so cool, when demoed by Naruto. In terms of ninja, he didn't until KCM. Jiraiya without pefect sage mode, was still better than naruto, but naruto was stronger. If you'd pit them against each other, i think Jman would win though, just because of sheer expeience and ninja techs. and yes, clones have to be counted. If not, then you shouldn't count Ma and Pa :D
 
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Kabuto still has D-Sage.. Oro didnt take it he just released it, similar to when naruto loses his toad sage chakra after a while..
 
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