[Discussion] Have Oda's drawings gotten really messy after the timeskip???

[swaminaruto]

You could say they were messy before too and that's just Oda's style but in all three arcs - the fishmen one, the punk hazard one and now the colosseum, there are too many characters of no importance thrown in and I have no idea who is saying what. And I feel that the art has lost some of its quirky beauty too...

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

No they haven't gotten messy. He does know who says what ; otherwise the manga would make no sense. Every line has importance.

 

[SAHAN1993]

its up to you bro.to me its way better than before.two many charactors? is it bad?.it is really nice to see too many bcz lot of things going to happen and these charactors may reappear in future.sorry 4 my bad english.

 

[ziggyZ]

Well since Oda has another 7+ years left, I'm pretty sure he's gonna meet his end if he keeps drawing "normal" looking characters.

 

[Klad]

Yeah , they're too hard to read , but it's okay for me .

 

[System001]

You could say they were messy before too and that's just Oda's style but in all three arcs - the fishmen one, the punk hazard one and now the colosseum, there are too many characters of no importance thrown in and I have no idea who is saying what. And I feel that the art has lost some of its quirky beauty too...

I actually agree, too much fodder, too many characters talking, although almost all of the time the speech bubbles are clear, sometimes the aren't. But mostly too many randomers, way too many. Especially this Colosseum arc, we're seeing characters fodderize other characters, only to be fodderized by another character, only to be fodderized by a side character who'll probably have some level of importance. Like, why not just shorten the chain by having any characters who may play a part fodderize them all? Why drag it out so long? It's annoying, you're a long running manga, not a long winded long running manga.

 

[Skull Knight]

most of d girls in one piece hav start lookin d same after d timeskip

 

[Skylar Knight]

I actually agree, too much fodder, too many characters talking, although almost all of the time the speech bubbles are clear, sometimes the aren't. But mostly too many randomers, way too many. Especially this Colosseum arc, we're seeing characters fodderize other characters, only to be fodderized by another character, only to be fodderized by a side character who'll probably have some level of importance. Like, why not just shorten the chain by having any characters who may play a part fodderize them all? Why drag it out so long? It's annoying, you're a long running manga, not a long winded long running manga.

Because it's natural that random people, from all over the world, would join a big event like the one in Dressrosa. Characters have come to participate, to fight and to win, and it's important that we get at least a glance of them, fodders or not. I'm not the one to speak for Oda, but I'm sure he wants to show that this is a battle. Not some one-sided fight where one or two characters beat the rest.

 

[Olorin]

Well it can appear like that to some ppl at times but thats just because Oda squezes more story on one page than say ... Kishi does in an entire chapter most of the time ... And I prefer more to happen in one chapter so I love Odas style!

 

[Vincent Pryce]

Yeah, One Piece can get real messy

 

[Hexuze]

Well it just goes to show how big the One Piece world is, I think that's why Oda introduces a lot of fodder character. Anyways, you'll get used to it near the middle of the arc. Also how are drawings relevant to the number of characters hes introduced? Anyways, I disagree I think his artwork is still strong.

 

[System001]

Because it's natural that random people, from all over the world, would join a big event like the one in Dressrosa. Characters have come to participate, to fight and to win, and it's important that we get at least a glance of them, fodders or not. I'm not the one to speak for Oda, but I'm sure he wants to show that this is a battle. Not some one-sided fight where one or two characters beat the rest.

You don't say? You don't have to use an excessive amount of panels to show a vast amount of people. Also, all of the fights have been 'one sided' to a certain extent, just in a different persons favour. Eg the latest chapter was some seemingly Giant raping everybody, until Luffy finally started to rape him. Lastly, as already said, there's been way too many panels dedicated to fodder; for instance, in this latest chapter, there's been just shy of 20 panels dedicated to the giant Harudjin and the audience cheering to him, only for him to get pwned right at the end. For previous chapters it's been more or less the same, or even worse. If some manga's fall victim to 'hollow' chapters or pages, One Piece falls victim to spamming us with an absurdly large useless cast, providing bloated, filling but not fulfilling pages or chapters. It's just that in general, One Piece fans 'godinize' it, and if there is ever a person who says otherwise, they say 'Go read something else then, One Piece hater'. Or 'All of one piece is wonderful, you need to read every bit of it, as every line, no every word is of importance, and if you can't see that, or you don't like it, don't read it.'

 

[Kuzan]

I love his artwork and I have trouble reading the manga.

 

[Souji]

It's always been chaotic. OP is my favorite of the Big 3 (by a close margin), but I always have this lingering fear that Oda, as good as he is, may risk crushing the overall narrative with too many details, causing OP to fall under its own weight.

 

[swaminaruto]

I actually agree, too much fodder, too many characters talking, although almost all of the time the speech bubbles are clear, sometimes the aren't. But mostly too many randomers, way too many. Especially this Colosseum arc, we're seeing characters fodderize other characters, only to be fodderized by another character, only to be fodderized by a side character who'll probably have some level of importance. Like, why not just shorten the chain by having any characters who may play a part fodderize them all? Why drag it out so long? It's annoying, you're a long running manga, not a long winded long running manga.

Exactly my point...

 

[Boa Hancock]

I love it because I get to think. What character does what? Which character makes what?

Also, fear not. Oda doesn't do characters like a certain author does his. He doesn't leave them out to dry by themselves, nor leave them stuck in some wood, or have them vanish in a war for months on end, only to have them reappear like nothing happened, without any resolution.

 

[cptenn94]

I actually agree, too much fodder, too many characters talking, although almost all of the time the speech bubbles are clear, sometimes the aren't. But mostly too many randomers, way too many. Especially this Colosseum arc, we're seeing characters fodderize other characters, only to be fodderized by another character, only to be fodderized by a side character who'll probably have some level of importance. Like, why not just shorten the chain by having any characters who may play a part fodderize them all? Why drag it out so long? It's annoying, you're a long running manga, not a long winded long running manga.

I must disagree. While developing random characters can make the story slower, it makes the plot much richer. If kishi did half the developing that oda did, naruto might be the number 1 manga instead...(as kishis weakness is developing random characters....that is why people complain about there being no deaths in the war arc. There were plenty of deaths actually, just not of the limited main character roster.

Anyways my personal opinion.

 

[HarrisonX]

I think it's fine the way it is :| But I would much rather see more action that the talking.......