Hate and Bullying are everyone's fault

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if you're getting bullied your stupid and weak. thats no offensive. but you're just weak
1.why are you getting bullied? you're weak
if you get bullied you should just knock the guy out. i can't care less if i bully or someone gets bullied. get yo ass up and start do something lil kidz
Isn't this entire thing about being weak and then proceeding to fight back contradictory in itself? Bullies generally do prey on weaker people because they're either not strong enough to face the conflict or are too weak to physically fight back. Why would someone even think about fighting back if the guy is twice their size? Sometimes you can't fight back and when you do it ends up much worse. I'm not saying it will always end up worse, but the odds aren't really in your favor for the situation to become better by fighting back.

The biggest part about the bystander being the reason why bullying still happens (which I personally think is utter bullshit) is fear of conflict. People don't want to get involved for the same reason that they're afraid that something will happen to them, most likely something bad. Sometimes if it's one person you might be able to fight back but a lot of the time bullies can simply gang up on the small people which a lot of people don't want to get involved in. I'm not american or anything so I can't speak, but with the ease of getting guns which I've heard is rather easy over there means that even bigger fear where you can potentially get killed just for intervening and really, I like my life too much for it to be taken away because I wanted to help someone who was being bullied.

I don't think the video is 100% correct in the solution being the bystander, but the bully themselves. Of course the bystander can just step in and try to stop it, and if it does work the bully can still go after the target when said person isn't even around.
 

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People shouldn't hit others in general! whether boy or girl, and calling a person weak and stupid for not fighting back is absurd,

that's making things even worse! because when you hit that bully, that bully is going get revenge on you and gather his gang bad boys to gang up on you and eventually that leds to the Police getting involved and stabbing and ultimately SUICIDE


people should have enough sense to know TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT, I got my ass whooped as i said before, i didn't even had money to buy things for myself. Did I beat up the bully?? no, was I weak for not doing it?? Hell no

because I know it would have did me WORSE than BETTER, I did what is the better solution, I WAS THE BETTER MAN,

yeah I took my ass whoopings :/ but my bullies stopped after seeing that I didn't give a crap about them,

bullies don't attack people because you are weak and stupid, they want attention, a attention they obviously are not getting from Broken homes, with single mothers and No dad around, NO fatherly figure and fatherly authority in their lives,

or they have mom and dad, but dad is abusive.etc so these bullies emulate what their dad does to their mom, and beat up kids, with all the so call badass ness, they feel attention by doing so

but sadly that leds to gang, and from gang to jail, a life of sorrow and regrets,
Cut that Disney bullshit. You learned that in elementary school and you were mislead. There's bullies who'll bully you just because they can, and if you didn't do anything then yeah you're weak. You scared of getting a little beating then you're a coward.

Niggas been killed for walking down the streets and looking at someone, niggas been killed for having a good family, niggas been killed for someone to get paid, niggas been killed by accident.

You're scared of getting hit over something so weak then you a p*ssy.

If you hit that bully back, not only will you have stood up for yourself and showed you ain't gonna take his shit, he's gonna beat your ass assuming you can't fight. That's it. He isn't gonna stab you over it unless its a special situation. This why you a coward, or you took the shit they told you in 3rd grade to heart.

If you're gonna commit suicide over it then you shoulda had shit done about it before you decided to end your life. I can't have that much sympathy for someone who kills themself because they wouldn't stick up for themselves or try and do nothing about their situation.

How often do you see the kids who get bullied over their school life trying to get stronger?
 

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Why're you avoiding my question?
Because it doesn't make any sense, why are you not seeing my point?

But to answer it: No.

Girls don't hit boys...i have never seen that...before...i can't do anything about what you think...dattebayo!
I've been hit by a girl, and I did punch her back. I hate sexists, we're all human. I am not going to make an exception for girls.
 

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Isn't this entire thing about being weak and then proceeding to fight back contradictory in itself? Bullies generally do prey on weaker people because they're either not strong enough to face the conflict or are too weak to physically fight back. Why would someone even think about fighting back if the guy is twice their size? Sometimes you can't fight back and when you do it ends up much worse. I'm not saying it will always end up worse, but the odds aren't really in your favor for the situation to become better by fighting back.

The biggest part about the bystander being the reason why bullying still happens (which I personally think is utter bullshit) is fear of conflict. People don't want to get involved for the same reason that they're afraid that something will happen to them, most likely something bad. Sometimes if it's one person you might be able to fight back but a lot of the time bullies can simply gang up on the small people which a lot of people don't want to get involved in. I'm not american or anything so I can't speak, but with the ease of getting guns which I've heard is rather easy over there means that even bigger fear where you can potentially get killed just for intervening and really, I like my life too much for it to be taken away because I wanted to help someone who was being bullied.

I don't think the video is 100% correct in the solution being the bystander, but the bully themselves. Of course the bystander can just step in and try to stop it, and if it does work the bully can still go after the target when said person isn't even around.
So basically because you gonna get beat up you gonna let them shove you around like you're their *****? If you think that then I can't sympathize. What'll X do when they have a family years later and their house get broken into? Or if some dude is stalking their wife and wanna rape her? Sit back and hide because they're gonna get beat up?

Because it doesn't make any sense, why are you not seeing my point?

But to answer it: No.
Lol Exactly what I thought.
 

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So basically because you gonna get beat up you gonna let them shove you around like you're their *****? If you think that then I can't sympathize. What'll X do when they have a family years later and their house get broken into? Or if some dude is stalking their wife and wanna rape her? Sit back and hide because they're gonna get beat up?



Lol Exactly what I thought.
Point is: You're a sexist because you think you shouldn't hit a girl just because they're 'female'
 

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i always defended people who got bullied - infact i have gotten in countless fights in my life, most of them were to defend those who got bullied.

i kicked eatch and everyone of their butts - True.

but still that doesnt stop people from bullying, hate is in our nature unfortunately.
 

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Lol people who get bullied should stand up for themselves xD. I have been bullied many times but I don't sit there and let them do it. They touch me once and it's over xD. If I saw a person getting bullied, I would stand up for him no matter who he is. Some people make it a big situation that it's really not. Usally bullys can't do anything. Just say one word to them. If they don't stop. You gotta do what you gotta do xD.
 
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Some one who bullies is originally not a bully. Most get influenced by their friends in their class or were also victims of bullying. Some driven by arrogance (usually rich ones) think no one can harm them and they bully. There are also twisted minds who bully just for fun not realizing that this mentally affects the bullied person's mind and the latter bullies to avenge himself. This mad cycle goes and there are more and more bullies.
 

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Lol people who get bullied should stand up for themselves xD. I have been bullied many times but I don't sit there and let them do it. They touch me once and it's over xD.

You gotta do what you gotta do xD.
And what do you do when your bullies AREN'T paper cut-out cliche movie bullies? What happens when they are capable of big-time alienation, psychological warfare and humiliation. All of those cut deeper than any punch could. And in a microcosm like a school all of these are at their most effective because even the more hardy person can be got to when there's no escaping a mini society until you graduate.

What then?
 

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Nope. I'd either stop them from hitting me or take it like a man.
You criticise how society and 'disney logic' is braindwashing people from the '2 wrongs don't make a right argument' (which is probably the closest thing today has to a 'good man')

and yet this righteous, chivalrous double-standard with women is almost EXACTLY THE SAME. You're just brainwashed with an ancient outdated code of being a gentleman instead of being brainwashed with an ancient outdated code of being a peaceful man in the bigger picture of things.

That's a tad hypocritical.
 
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You criticise how society and 'disney logic' is braindwashing people from the '2 wrongs don't make a right argument' which is probably the closest thing today has to a 'good man'

and yet this righteous, chivalrous double-standard with women is almost EXACTLY THE SAME. You're just brainwashed with an ancient outdate code of being a gentleman instead of being brainwashed with an ancient outdated code of being a peaceful man in the bigger picture of things.

That's a tad hypocritical.
Exactly this.
 

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You criticise how society and 'disney logic' is braindwashing people from the '2 wrongs don't make a right argument' (which is probably the closest thing today has to a 'good man')

and yet this righteous, chivalrous double-standard with women is almost EXACTLY THE SAME. You're just brainwashed with an ancient outdated code of being a gentleman instead of being brainwashed with an ancient outdated code of being a peaceful man in the bigger picture of things.

That's a tad hypocritical.
Exactly this.
Hitting back a girl is wrong!even if a girl hits you just stop them and scold them that's all you need and they will run away crying...dattebayo!
 

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Usually the ones who are easy, small and weak willed tend to get bullied, the bullies themselves know they're an easy target. Well for me, there's been a time when I was a kid that the other kids use to laugh and mock me, act racist, use weird slangs and whatever, back when i was in england, I usually just smiled and walked away, been times where the kids crossed the line and i got into fights, that was when I was very young, no one even tries to do that shit anymore.
 
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