[VS] Hasirama vs Tobirama, Minato, and Hiruzen

[Apêx1]

Mokuton tanked the outskirts of the explosion. Direct one hit were shown obliterated.

I don't see what you are saying. TBB is a TBB, the explosion will still be more potent than the mutually explosive tags. Anyways, given the intel, the only thing he has to worry about is this jutsu, so being able to use it is one thing, killing Hashi is another (not that I believe he can.)

 

[Touken]

Lol not even. Tobirama Edo bomb already destroyed God gate (which should be equal to Mokuton durability.) A continuous explosion with one would make any large construction useless to make on Hashiramas behalf.

Anyway i will better get away from these threads that put SS and PS on a pedestal, as indestructible/ unstoppable.

Mokuton isn't exactly that durable anyway [

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]. Kurama firing a Bijuu Bomb without it exploding was enough to take off Mokuryu's head. It's just the size of SS. Tobirama's Gojou Kibakufuda isn't competing with Hashirama's Buddha, it's far too big.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I don't see what you are saying. TBB is a TBB, the explosion will still be more potent than the mutually explosive tags. Anyways, given the intel, the only thing he has to worry about is this jutsu, so being able to use it is one thing, killing Hashi is another (not that I believe he can.)

What I am saying was all the results we saw Tbb exploding on Mokuton were shown obliterated. Only time we have seen it "tanked" was when 1.) Hashirama put up Hōbi no Jutsu (every other Mokuton was broken Wood Dragon and Wood Golem). 2)SS (all of the hands were destroyed other then the Budda via foundation, which the explosion wasn't focus aim at). This isn't tanking and proves Wood Release can still be damage by TBB.

2nd) I already showed that, even a weaker bomb like Edo, was able to destroy God Gate, which has the same durability as Mokuton. Regardless of how you see it, this bomb will do damage, and enough to make an Mokuton or its foundation/"cornerstone", useless.

I dont think Tobirama can beat his brother, but him alone can push his brother high diff, considering they know each other like brothers suppose to. Adding these other Kages makes this case closed.

Mokuton isn't exactly that durable anyway [

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]. Kurama firing a Bijuu Bomb without it exploding was enough to take off Mokuryu's head. It's just the size of SS. Tobirama's Gojou Kibakufuda isn't competing with Hashirama's Buddha, it's far too big.

Check Edo's bomb size again, it expands with PS and SS.

 

[Bogard]

Hashirama gets killed by Rasen chourinbu kousan shiki U_U

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Prime Hiruzen solos, neg difficulty

 

[Apêx1]

What I am saying was all the results we saw Tbb exploding on Mokuton were shown obliterated. Only time we have seen it "tanked" was when 1.) Hashirama put up Hōbi no Jutsu (every other Mokuton was broken Wood Dragon and Wood Golem). 2)SS (all of it destroyed other then the Budda, which the explosion wasn't focus aim at). This isn't tanking and proves Wood Release can still be damage by TBB.

2nd) I already showed that, even a weaker bomb like Edo, was able to destroy God Gate, which has the same durability as Mokuton. Regardless of how you see it, this bomb will do damage, and enough to make an Mokuton or its foundation/"cornerstone", useless.

I dont think Tobirama can beat his brother, but him alone can push his brother high diff, considering they know each other like brothers suppose to. Adding these other Kages makes this case closed.

Fair enough, I thought you were implying Hōbi can be destroyed by it. Anyways, SS still takes it and lives, doesn't tank, but survives it if not ends while it is going on.

Since when does god gate have durability equivalent to Hōbi or SS? I don't recall it. To my point, hashirama will not allow the edo tensei to work. He can use his Hotei hands to push the edo tensei coffin beneath the ground instantly, considering he has full intel. Saying Tobirama can use edo>take the bombs out>start the tech before the hotei/SS can just push it beneath the ground is ludicrous.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Since when does god gate have durability equivalent to Hōbi or SS? I don't recall it. To my point, hashirama will not allow the edo tensei to work. He can use his Hotei hands to push the edo tensei coffin beneath the ground instantly, considering he has full intel. Saying Tobirama can use edo>take the bombs out>start the tech before the hotei/SS can just push it beneath the ground is ludicrous.

When God Gate was broken down, it looks like Mokuton construct.

You forgot Hashirama is fighting his brother who is faster then him and can teleport anything instantly. Nothing is stopping Tobirama from summoning Edo, not unless FTG is restricted

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[Apêx1]

When God Gate was broken down, it looks like Mokuton construct.

You forgot Hashirama is fighting his brother who is faster then him and can teleport anything instantly. Nothing is stopping Tobirama from summoning Edo, not unless FTG is restricted

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There's no implication of it being of Mukoton composition. That would be pure speculation, especially since the other Ashura descendant (nardo) has used the same technique; but to seal.

Meh, I don't see him teleporting out of the SS's range at all, his kunai's range probably isn't even that far. Once it's summoned I still see Hashirama having put it beneath the ground, set up flower tree world, or simply got into perfect position with his SS. SS would end them all with one go, apart from possibly Minato.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

There's no implication of it being of Mukoton composition. That would be pure speculation, especially since the other Ashura descendant (nardo) has used the same technique; but to seal.

Meh, I don't see him teleporting out of the SS's range at all, his kunai's range probably isn't even that far. Once it's summoned I still see Hashirama having put it beneath the ground, set up flower tree world, or simply got into perfect position with his SS. SS would end them all with one go, apart from possibly Minato.

True that its speculation, but its completely reasonable considering it can fall from the air, with its weight should be broken by gravity. And it was able to pin down the Juubi itself. And its Senjutsu.

Well I wont bother making a case of Tobirama doing it, as it will be easier to state using the link to 4th's, which canonically made good FTG mark range.

 

[Apêx1]

True that its speculation, but its completely reasonable considering it can fall from the air, with its weight should be broken by gravity. And it was able to pin down the Juubi itself. And its Senjutsu.

Well I wont bother making a case of Tobirama doing it, as it will be easier to state using the link to 4th's, which canonically made good FTG mark range.

True, true. I guess it's up to the reader's interpretation at this point.
Ye, Minato has a massive FTG range. Anyways, don't feel like protecting Hashirama, his type of character isn't really in my interest.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Hashirama loses. This battlefield is already covered in Ftg. Not to mention one touch they could Teleport Shinsuusenju out of the area. Hiruzen fire could scorch Wood forest. Ftg Bijuudama blitz would put down Mokujin. Not to mention if Bm cloaks would make Hiruzen Bijuu size Elements even bigger. This is just to much for Hashirama to handle.

 

[A v i]

I believe that 3 hokage can beat him but Hashirama wins according to feats.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, some of these posts are making me sick....anyway...


Hashirama would most likely still win though. Tobirama and Hiruzen have no place in a fight between these two, and Hashirama can probably edge out a victory against Minato.

 

[Beans2]

Lol, some of these posts are making me sick.

1. Minato doesn't have BM as this wasn't stated to be Edo Minato.

2. Hashirama obliterates these 3.

It's annoying, because I asked if Minato had KCM/BM, and the OP replied saying "I said no restrictions so he does", but Minato having KCM and BM isn't a restriction it's a condition...anyway, the OP stated that he does.

 

[KidGamer65]

It's annoying, because I asked if Minato had KCM/BM, and the OP replied saying "I said no restrictions so he does", but Minato having KCM and BM isn't a restriction it's a condition...anyway, the OP stated that he does.

Lol, I'll edit my post.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Lol, some of these posts are making me sick....anyway...


Hashirama would most likely still win though. Tobirama and Hiruzen have no place in a fight between these two, and Hashirama can probably edge out a victory against Minato.

You forgot to factor BSM.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Lol, some of these posts are making me sick....anyway...


Hashirama would most likely still win though. Tobirama and Hiruzen have no place in a fight between these two, and Hashirama can probably edge out a victory against Minato.

You forgot to factor BSM.

 

[KidGamer65]

You forgot to factor BSM.

He can't use BSM. He can't even use Sage Mode proficiently, evidence by when he used one Rasengan and used up all his Nature Energy. There is no way anyone can say that he is capable of BSM.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato =solos
Hype huruzen= solos.
Tobirama....=meg?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

If he can use sage mode he can use BSM. The simple fact he has perfect sage mode means he's got the reserves for it, probably more reserves than Madara. He will outlast hashirama

Even in base Minato is super strong.