Hashiram's chakra...

[Ahmed1993]

Now i was watching the Naruto and Bee vs Itachi and Nagato fight and this caught my intention :

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" Shisui's MS requires at least another decade to activate again discounting Senju Hashirama's chakra "

[video=youtube;iAEHMFOuIgc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEHMFOuIgc[/video]

In the anime it was : " Unless you have Senju Hashirama's chakra "

I'm not gonna make any theory , i'm just gonna post what happened in the chapter 661 U_U

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[The Necromancer]

Those quotes are semantics.

 

[KingHashirama]

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[Ahmed1993]

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And now ?

 

[KingHashirama]

And now ?

they work now . lol. And yea, pretty much it i agree.

I find it kind of funny, how Madara went from being a challenge to Hashirama to someone who can restrained by a mere jutsu of Hashirama's. The Irony of trying to be stronger than your opponent but instead of that, you just become weaker. Reminds me of Hiruzen and Danzo.

Personally, he has the second strongest chakra after the Juubi or the juub jins (Same thing) lol.

 

[Ahmed1993]

they work now . lol. And yea, pretty much it i agree.

I find it kind of funny, how Madara went from being a challenge to Hashirama to someone who can restrained by a mere jutsu of Hashirama's. The Irony of trying to be stronger than your opponent but instead of that, you just become weaker. Reminds me of Hiruzen and Danzo.

Personally, he has the second strongest chakra after the Juubi or the juub jins (Same thing) lol.

I'm not a Madara or Hashirama fanboy and i don't want to get into a debate but i'm just gonna say this.

Madara's goal was to get Hashi' SM and then getting revived via Rinne Tensei.
He pretty much fulfilled his first goal by implanting his black rods into Hashi , and then he proceed to force Obito using Rinne Tensei but this time he did it silently by making his enemies think that they have beaten him and that's why he succeeded ( when he did publically in his first time , Obito got sliced up and Madara failed ).

And if you want to put he got an exterior help argument , then the same thing happened to Hashi ( Naruto's Cho Odama FRS )

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Well find out this week what's really going down

 

[omarsen]

Whats your point here? beside that wtf

" Shisui's MS requires at least another decade to activate again discounting Senju Hashirama's chakra "

Danzou had Hashirama's DNA/Cells not chakra, learn the difference ffs

 

[Ahmed1993]

Whats your point here? beside that wtf


Danzou had Hashirama's DNA/Cells not chakra, learn the difference ffs

Learn to read a chapter page.

 

[KingHashirama]

I'm not a Madara or Hashirama fanboy and i don't want to get into a debate but i'm just gonna say this.

Madara's goal was to get Hashi' SM and then getting revived via Rinne Tensei.
He pretty much fulfilled his first goal by implanting his black rods into Hashi , and then he proceed to force Obito using Rinne Tensei but this time he did it silently by making his enemies think that they have beaten him and that's why he succeeded ( when he did publically in his first time , Obito got sliced up and Madara failed ).

And if you want to put he got an exterior help argument , then the same thing happened to Hashi ( Naruto's Cho Odama FRS )

Madara's goal was to become the jinchuriki = Failed, due to obito

Madara saw Hashirama's revival and then set out to attain his SM = Accomplished , however still got beaten. BUT he did have Black Zetsu there just in case he was beaten.

In the end there really isn't a point where he is stronger than Hashirama. Hashirama actually didn't need the Odama rasen-shuriken.. Wood Dragon was already doing the job... and slowly would've beat MAdara. However, with FRS they simply fastened the process....Madara however did need Black Zetsu.

Hashirama = the free moving one

Madara = the restrained one, with no worries however.

So its obvious who was the victor.

There really isn't anything here that fans should get mad about.. this is in almost every shonen manga.. that the good guy is always step ahead of his arch enemy.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Madara's goal was to become the jinchuriki = Failed, due to obito

Madara saw Hashirama's revival and then set out to attain his SM = Accomplished , however still got beaten. BUT he did have Black Zetsu there just in case he was beaten.

In the end there really isn't a point where he is stronger than Hashirama. Hashirama actually didn't need the Odama rasen-shuriken.. Wood Dragon was already doing the job... and slowly would've beat MAdara. However, with FRS they simply fastened the process....Madara however did need Black Zetsu.

Hashirama = the free moving one

Madara = the restrained one, with no worries however.

So its obvious who was the victor.

There really isn't anything here that fans should get mad about.. this is in almost every shonen manga.. that the good guy is always step ahead of his arch enemy.

His main goal is IT.

Please explain to me how the wood dragon can absorb an unlimited chakra (EDO ) ?
Its obvious that he could have freed himself if he wanted ( Susanoo or Mokuton ) , but he made them believe that they have beaten him so that he can get revived.

And who have restrained Hashi ? Madara.

And for the last time , i'm not a Madara fan ( i'm a Sasuke fan ).

 

[KingHashirama]

His main goal is IT.

Please explain to me how the wood dragon can absorb an unlimited chakra (EDO ) ?
Its obvious that he could have freed himself if he wanted ( Susanoo or Mokuton ) , but he made them believe that they have beaten him so that he can get revived.

And who have restrained Hashi ? Madara.

And for the last time , i'm not a Madara fan ( i'm a Sasuke fan ).

Here is the problem with your assumption. The edos require a break to restore the chakra.. its not ASAP. With wood dragon, Madara has no break to restore his chakra with....

And please don't insult the charater like that. Madara is too prideful to become Hashirama's b*tch for even a second... yet you want to claim he set that up on purpose? That makes no sense. If he could finish off Hashirama before that he would've... In fact he himself stated that was his goal..

You mean restrained a non-full powered, barely any chakra left , who had just got done fighting a fight on extreme level, that Hashirama? Yea i know who restrained him.. a full powered, restored body, beyond Prime Madara Uchiha... Not really a feat to be honest..

Never said you were a Madara fan . =p

But ehh, we are getting off topic. So i'm just gonna say leave the thread lol. My bad.

 

[omarsen]

Learn to read a chapter page.

what if i told you it was translation mistake.

Danzou,Obito, and madara they all had cells, not chakra

 

[Ahmed1993]

Here is the problem with your assumption. The edos require a break to restore the chakra.. its not ASAP. With wood dragon, Madara has no break to restore his chakra with....

And please don't insult the charater like that. Madara is too prideful to become Hashirama's b*tch for even a second... yet you want to claim he set that up on purpose? That makes no sense. If he could finish off Hashirama before that he would've... In fact he himself stated that was his goal..

You mean restrained a non-full powered, barely any chakra left , who had just got done fighting a fight on extreme level, that Hashirama? Yea i know who restrained him.. a full powered, restored body, beyond Prime Madara Uchiha... Not really a feat to be honest..

Never said you were a Madara fan . =p

But ehh, we are getting off topic. So i'm just gonna say leave the thread lol. My bad.

So you are saying that a Wood Dragon can suck all of the victim's chakra in a instant ?
Please give me what proves that ( because even Naruto's Bijuu Mode's case , it wasn't instant ).

Yet he took Hashi's cells to awaken the Rinnegan.
Again Madara's goal is IT ( he never said that beating Hashi was his goal ) , getting revived , getting Hashi's SM and becoming Juubi's Jin are all just means to get to that goal.

And what happened when Madara tried to revive himself while everyone were aware ? Obito got sliced up and become Juubi's Jin.
This time he caught them of guard.

Yes i agree but he got most of the job done before he got revived. ( black rods )

I'm not saying that Edo Madara is stronger or Edo Hashi is stronger , just giving a logical take on what happened but yes you are right , we are getting off topic , so leave it as that ( he will get foddersized by Naruto and Sasuke in then end so yea ).

what if i told you it was translation mistake.

Danzou,Obito, and madara they all had cells, not chakra

Then give me what proves that ( like a viz translation ) because even in the anime its said chakra:
[video=youtube;iAEHMFOuIgc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEHMFOuIgc[/video]

Watch at 1:55

 

[EL GENIO]

what if i told you it was translation mistake.

Danzou,Obito, and madara they all had cells, not chakra

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[Ahmed1993]

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Thank you my friend , + rep.