Hashirama's victories against Madara.

[Natsu Shazneel]

In the end of the day Hashirama will go down as a superior being to Madara in his life time. While Madara will go down as a superior being after there life time.

I think Madara losing to BZ is a great message to those arrogant people who think power is everything. Madara beating many great names only shows he had the power just not the right mindset.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Guys idk how to say this or if its too late but Madara is such a god I never realized it until I started making a list of his accomplishments. :eww: (Not wanking)

Sasuke is still my fav though. :yeah:

And yes, Ashuras are the strongest because of their mentality.

 

[Quajo]

This is.were you guys get it wrong. Izanagi is used to cheat death and not to defeat others in battle especially not a powerful shinibi like Hashi. remember Danzo using countless izanagi could still not defeat sasuke. Madara knew that he was no match for Hashi (even if he used izanagi during the fight). it would have just drained him of chakra making it even easier for Haahirama to kill him again.

 

[Ambivalence]

I'm not really sure how to answer, since everything regarding this is pure speculation. I'd say that:

1. Madara wanted to be thought dead and already had a plan that he needed to set in motion, so defeating Hashirama wasn't necessary, or maybe that wasn't his goal from the start.
2. There was still a chance that Hashirama would have somehow outplayed Madara and then it would have been game over for real, meaning that Madara couldn't take that risk and simply opted for the safer option.

This is.were you guys get it wrong. Izanagi is used to cheat death and not to defeat others in battle especially not a powerful shinibi like Hashi. remember Danzo using countless izanagi could still not defeat sasuke. Madara knew that he was no match for Hashi (even if he used izanagi during the fight). it would have just drained him of chakra making it even easier for Haahirama to kill him again.

Not quite true, remember the first time Danzo used Izanagi? He appeared behind Sasuke, who was completely caught off guard, and was only safe from Danzo's counter-attack because he was still in the Susano'o ribcage. Now imagine the same scenario, only replace Sasuke with Hashirama and remove Susano'o.

 

[Demonic.]

I'm not really sure how to answer, since everything regarding this is pure speculation. I'd say that:

1. Madara wanted to be thought dead and already had a plan that he needed to set in motion, so defeating Hashirama wasn't necessary, or maybe that wasn't his goal from the start.
2. There was still a chance that Hashirama would have somehow outplayed Madara and then it would have been game over for real, meaning that Madara couldn't take that risk and simply opted for the safer option.



Not quite true, remember the first time Danzo used Izanagi? He appeared behind Sasuke, who was completely caught off guard, and was only safe from Danzo's counter-attack because he was still in the Susano'o ribcage. Now imagine the same scenario, only replace Sasuke with Hashirama and remove Susano'o.

Hashirama is a sensor. Sasuke is not. And Hashi has a heal factor.

Ot - should've, could've, would've eh? Lol

1.) Can Edo madara even use ST? You do realize his Rinnegan was a fake so it was limited in what it could do.

2.) Madara used PS which he referred to as his "Full Power" and Hashirama did not use SS, he matched PS with something a tier below his full power - Wood Golem.

 

[Transcendence]

He could of won if he wanted to, he had the kyuubi at Vote.

After the exchange, Madara's Susanoo was taken down but the buddah was completely shot.

Madara still had the kyuubi and Hashirama only had wood human/dragon left.

If he kept the kyuubi, he would of destroyed the other two leaving him the victor.

Instead he gave it up for Izanagi and faked his lose to get stronger.

So he kind of won because he was aiming for the future, so by getting his DNA he became way stronger than Hashirama and lived longer.

Do you selectively read the manga?

Hashirama put Kurama to sleep.

 

[KingHashirama]

Considering the fact Madara has always lost casually to Hashirama.. i disagree.

Hashirama was only beaten down, because he was playing the Naruto role in that fight. Trying to on everything he could, and keep himself alive, while not trying to kill Madara.


Hashirama > Madara in life and after life.

Hashirama: Achieved his goal even after death

Madara: Failed even while trying to make sure it happens the way he wants it.

Winners of life: Hashirama Senju.

 

[Ambivalence]

^^^ :| What?

Calm down bro, i'm only listing possibilities. I didn't say Madara>Hashirama, no need to get all defensive and offended. Also, by the end of their fight, Hashirama pretty much couldn't stand on his own feet due to exhaustion, so that sensory and healing factor aren't really a strong argument. How the hell did ET Madara even come into this? Lol

Whatever, i was only speculating on what Madara's reasoning behind using Izanagi the way he did was, which you obviously don't know as well, so i have no intention of indulging in another pointless argument.

 

[Demonic.]

Do you selectively read the manga?

Hashirama put Kurama to sleep.

I don't even know why you waste your time with that illiterate clown Lol

 

[SSStylish]

Wait... Madara used Izanagi, but not in the actual fight. I though it uses up a big amount of chakra. Does that mean Madara wasn't going all out or does that mean, that Izanagi doesn't consume that much chakra as some people make it out to be?

 

[Ambivalence]

Wait... Madara used Izanagi, but not in the actual fight. I though it uses up a big amount of chakra. Does that mean Madara wasn't going all out or does that mean, that Izanagi doesn't consume that much chakra as some people make it out to be?

Izanagi probably consumed the chakra required the moment Madara used and set Izanagi to activate after his death, but we don't really know when he did that. You're assuming he did it just before he started his fight with Hashirama, which probably wasn't the case. It's not a stretch to say that he did it days before the fight, since Izanagi would automatically activate after he did - no reason to waste chakra before the battle in which he'd need everything available to match his opponent.

 

[V h o]

Wait... Madara used Izanagi, but not in the actual fight. I though it uses up a big amount of chakra. Does that mean Madara wasn't going all out or does that mean, that Izanagi doesn't consume that much chakra as some people make it out to be?

Believe izanagi is more chakra taxing if you're not a Uchiha or related. Even after Izanagi, Madara was still wounded, despite his death being rewrote.

 

[~Ethereal~]

What Dantee said tbh, while Tobi just posing as a fake and just used Madara's name to get what he wanted.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

Finally a serious thread around here. Wouldn't madara not be able to use izanagi in that fight since his sharingan was deactivated due to chakra loss?

 

[PIOLO]

He has no weakness in do not know how to defeat him

- Kishi the author of na

Guy's only kishi knows the exact extent capacity in every character of NV because he's the authority to informed who's the strongest.


He used "deus ex-machina " by twist and limit him while we know the facts that he cannot be defeated